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Sick of comments about looking angry/are you okay? Because of my 11s lines

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Cookiecrumblepie · 18/10/2024 20:55

I have 11's lines. My face has fallen a bit. Whatever. I am CONSTANTLY asked whether I am angry, what's wrong, why so frowny by men and women! What's on her mind? Is she okay? WTF! AIBU or is this ridiculous. Does nobody understand that some people have lines between their eyebrows?

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ProvincialLady24 · 18/10/2024 23:28

I have the most miserable looking mouth. Think cats bum. I'm making an effort to have a vacant Mona Lisa type almost smile to stretch out the wrinkles. I definitely don't want lip filler as I think (and is just my opinion!) that it looks a bit common (for want of a better less snobby sounding word).
Can you do the same for your 11s? Maybe you'll exchange the expression of being pissed off to one of being perpetually mildly surprised?
I don't know. A fringe?
This aging stuff is brutal.
Best of luck.

mollyfolk · 18/10/2024 23:22

I've started to Botox my 11 lines. My DH tells me that I look the same but I feel better not looking cross it just doesn't suit my personality.

You sound like you want to embrace your resting bitch face! Nobody will mess with you so.

gillefc82 · 18/10/2024 23:21

Thanks @Tourmalines very nice of you to say. I thought there was a chance the comment/question was meant as a dig but decided to answer it genuinely regardless. It’s the weekend after all! 😊

MoreCardassianThanKardashian · 18/10/2024 23:20

On teams calls where we are being told of a new process or similar, I've now had people say "I saw your face while it was being explained" or "I could tell you thought that meeting could have been an email" and they couldn't be further from the truth.

I've had it since I was born or at least as long as I can remember but it's clearly getting worse with age. I've just booked in for my first session of Botox and no one's going to have a clue what I'm thinking. Yay! Knowing my luck I'll be frozen in annoyance but it's better than my current look of permanent disdain and despair.

cleowasmycat · 18/10/2024 23:19

Doglover84 · 18/10/2024 20:58

I got mine botoxed, I hated catching myself scowling away when I wasn't even unhappy!

Totally personal choice though!

Same!!

JaneFondue · 18/10/2024 23:18

Could posters please stop recommending Botox and fillers to OP who has categorically said she doesn't want them? This isn't S and B.
YANBU. And good for you. I detest the shiny egg look.

Tourmalines · 18/10/2024 23:15

gillefc82 · 18/10/2024 23:05

@NeverDropYourMooncup I’ll try and take that as a compliment. I think it’s pretty obvious from the pictures but that could be down to how I used to obsess/fixate on the imperfections, especially the forehead furrow!

Before is on the right with my hair back, the after is on the left with the red lipstick. Forehead line smoothed out (so no more fixating on my foundation sitting and gathering in the line), no frown line between the eyes and smoothed out crows feet lines by my eyes. For me, I feel like I look refreshed and makes me more confident in my own skin.

It is pretty obvious. Maybe said person needs spec savers . Looks good by the way .

buffyfaithspike · 18/10/2024 23:12

It's annoying
Are you ok? You look tired

Like am I not allowed to be tired and grumpy because I am, so fuck off Grin

I did have Botox after an op. I was in so much pain for months before the op, then I was out of pain but it was etched all over my face and didn't feel like natural ageing. I looked in the mirror and it was just pain showing
Had 3 lots of Botox which has worn off now and then started tretinoin and I'm happy with my skin now

AdoraBell · 18/10/2024 23:05

YANBU - I would reply - thanks I’m ecstatic.

gillefc82 · 18/10/2024 23:05

@NeverDropYourMooncup I’ll try and take that as a compliment. I think it’s pretty obvious from the pictures but that could be down to how I used to obsess/fixate on the imperfections, especially the forehead furrow!

Before is on the right with my hair back, the after is on the left with the red lipstick. Forehead line smoothed out (so no more fixating on my foundation sitting and gathering in the line), no frown line between the eyes and smoothed out crows feet lines by my eyes. For me, I feel like I look refreshed and makes me more confident in my own skin.

ImNoSuperman · 18/10/2024 22:52

Cookiecrumblepie · 18/10/2024 21:46

Is that a problem?! 😂

Start practicing growling in the mirror. Doubt many will ask again if that's how you respond. 🤣

NeverDropYourMooncup · 18/10/2024 22:52

gillefc82 · 18/10/2024 21:28

I had a 1 rather than 11 but my biggest bugbear was a deep, prominent horizontal frown/expression line across my forehead. Just before my wedding in 2019 I decided to get botox in my forehead and the doctor recommended treating between my eyes too. I can honestly say it the best thing I’ve ever done. I feel so much more confident.

I’m a naturally expressive person so didn’t want to look frozen and I still have loads of movement in the places I want it. Plus with naturally quite saggy upper eyelids, Botox placed properly helps to give my eyebrows a bit of a lift and open up my eyes which helps me look younger and more awake/refreshed.

Since 2019 (with a brief pause during covid lockdown) I get it every 4/5 months, now in 3 areas (11s, forehead and crows feet). I pay £220 for proper Botox (there are cheaper alternative products that have the same effect but I personally am not prepared to scrimp on something that is going into my body) and think it’s worth every penny.

If you’re considering it, do your research before choosing where to go/who to do it. Not all aestheticians are created equal and the good ones will never push you into any procedures that you don’t need / aren’t comfortable with, just to make money.

Happy to answer any questions if you have any.

Which one's the before? I can't tell.

LizFromMotherland · 18/10/2024 22:50

thereitgoes · 18/10/2024 22:11

I think botox has become so normalised that people are surprised to see normal signs of ageing. It's a bit depressing really how many of the responses are advising you on how to change your face to get rid of this perceived 'flaw' when you've said you don't mind it, you just don't like people commenting!

Which is fair enough, as it is rude! If I was brave enough, I'd make anyone commenting feel a bit uncomfortable... "I'm fine thanks, are you commenting on my wrinkles?". But in reality I know I'd probably be all perky and make a joke of it "oh no, I just have resting bitch face!".

I think botox has become so normalised that people are surprised to see normal signs of ageing.

Yes, but they can't show the surprise on their faces 🤣

thereitgoes · 18/10/2024 22:11

I think botox has become so normalised that people are surprised to see normal signs of ageing. It's a bit depressing really how many of the responses are advising you on how to change your face to get rid of this perceived 'flaw' when you've said you don't mind it, you just don't like people commenting!

Which is fair enough, as it is rude! If I was brave enough, I'd make anyone commenting feel a bit uncomfortable... "I'm fine thanks, are you commenting on my wrinkles?". But in reality I know I'd probably be all perky and make a joke of it "oh no, I just have resting bitch face!".

Cookiecrumblepie · 18/10/2024 21:46

Nightowl1234 · 18/10/2024 21:39

You certainly sound angry and grumpy!

Is that a problem?! 😂

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Nightowl1234 · 18/10/2024 21:39

You certainly sound angry and grumpy!

gillefc82 · 18/10/2024 21:28

I had a 1 rather than 11 but my biggest bugbear was a deep, prominent horizontal frown/expression line across my forehead. Just before my wedding in 2019 I decided to get botox in my forehead and the doctor recommended treating between my eyes too. I can honestly say it the best thing I’ve ever done. I feel so much more confident.

I’m a naturally expressive person so didn’t want to look frozen and I still have loads of movement in the places I want it. Plus with naturally quite saggy upper eyelids, Botox placed properly helps to give my eyebrows a bit of a lift and open up my eyes which helps me look younger and more awake/refreshed.

Since 2019 (with a brief pause during covid lockdown) I get it every 4/5 months, now in 3 areas (11s, forehead and crows feet). I pay £220 for proper Botox (there are cheaper alternative products that have the same effect but I personally am not prepared to scrimp on something that is going into my body) and think it’s worth every penny.

If you’re considering it, do your research before choosing where to go/who to do it. Not all aestheticians are created equal and the good ones will never push you into any procedures that you don’t need / aren’t comfortable with, just to make money.

Happy to answer any questions if you have any.

Sick of comments about looking angry/are you okay? Because of my 11s lines
Philodendron · 18/10/2024 21:20

I'm 30 and I have these lines - I refuse to have botox.

I get told I always look angry... especially on the school run. My OH jokes about it all the time... says I always look unsocial.

Tallisker · 18/10/2024 21:17

Has nobody heard of resting bitch face? 😁

Doglover84 · 18/10/2024 21:17

Runskiyoga · 18/10/2024 21:14

I get 'you look tired' because of my eyelids and 'are you ok' when I wear less makeup. I'm just getting older! I'm going to start explaining it in patronising detail to everyone who says it.

If I ever wear less or no makeup to work I guarantee someone tells me I look tired.

And i suppose I do 🤣

Doglover84 · 18/10/2024 21:16

Confusedandscare · 18/10/2024 21:12

Would you recommend it? Really thinking of goi g down the Botox road

100 %!!! Makes me look so much more relaxed and fresher.

Never told my DH and he's never noticed 🤣

Runskiyoga · 18/10/2024 21:14

I get 'you look tired' because of my eyelids and 'are you ok' when I wear less makeup. I'm just getting older! I'm going to start explaining it in patronising detail to everyone who says it.

Cookiecrumblepie · 18/10/2024 21:13

bryceQ · 18/10/2024 21:09

Sorry if I'm not understanding but don't you get lines there from frowning a lot? So maybe people are just picking up on your facial expressions and jumping to assumptions....

Mine are there permanently, so I have a line regardless of whether I'm frowning or not. So it looks like I'm constantly a bit grumpy - even when I'm just expressionless

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Confusedandscare · 18/10/2024 21:12

Doglover84 · 18/10/2024 20:58

I got mine botoxed, I hated catching myself scowling away when I wasn't even unhappy!

Totally personal choice though!

Would you recommend it? Really thinking of goi g down the Botox road

WigglyVonWaggly · 18/10/2024 21:11

Say, “I’m fine and I’m actually getting upset by the number of people who keep commenting on this.” It’s the only way for some idiots to learn to keep their mouths shut and not comment on other people’s faces.

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