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to think blocking/ghosting someone who's done nothing 'wrong' is cowardly/childish?

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bringincrazyback · 18/10/2024 14:13

(Just to preface this: I’m not talking about stalking/harassing/otherwise distressing scenarios. Those are exactly what blocking and ghosting are for. I’m talking about situations where a dating/friendship setup simply isn’t working out for someone any more. Also, I have never been blocked myself, or at least not to my knowledge, so I don’t have a personal axe to grind here.)

I feel like we're seeing an increasing amount of ‘then block’ or ‘unfriend, block and move on’ type sentiments dispensed on MN as advice on how to end a relationship/stop dating someone/draw a line under a friendship where the other person hasn’t really done anything ‘wrong’ as such. Not sure if this is just an MN thing, but I think it’s often overkill, and can be quite childish and cowardly tbh. (And that’s before I even get started on the ‘tell them every last thing that annoys you about them, then block’ type posts which go way beyond cowardly imo.)

Have we really all lost the art of having an open/matter-of-fact conversation, telling someone we're just not feeling it but all the best for the future, and... simply leaving it there?

If the other person acts aggressively or in a harassing way, or starts stalking, or simply won't leave it, that's the time to block. Some people seem to view blocking as part and parcel of deciding to stop seeing someone, and it's just cowardly imo, like the online equivalent of sticking fingers in one's ears and going 'la, la, la, not listening'. And just as juvenile.

Has this really become the rule book on how to leave someone behind? And if so, is it just me who thinks this is a depressing/unhelpful trend?

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RedRobyn2021 · 19/10/2024 21:10

Depends on the circumstances I think

I've had a group of 3 "friends" randomly remove me on social media before, one was a close friend of 11 years and I was devastated and didn't understand why. It was very painful.

I think if one of them had tried to talk to me the outcome would have been different tbh but they didn't value our relationship in the same way I did. Unpleasant but true.

Stickinthemuddle · 19/10/2024 16:54

I do think it’s a bit different now than when I was growing up. It used to be you could only write/email to a desktop or call the landline which you wouldn’t really do after 9/10pm unless it was urgent and you could ignore and simply look like you were out, or say you were planning to watch something on tv that’s starting soon.

Now everyone’s in your pocket all the time and there’s fewer things you can politely put anyone off for. TV can be paused and with WhatsApp etc it’s way easier for acquaintances to send requests to meet up that in person would be easier to brush off. If you need to put hard boundaries in to protect your own bandwidth I can see why.

Runskiyoga · 19/10/2024 16:42

I had a friendship with someone that just was getting less and less satisfying, I didn't like her values or her approach to others. She didn't seem that interested in me, but frequently wanted to talk over problems or ask advice. I just thought, am I going to keep meeting for coffees out of duty forever? So I stopped initiating them, went to a few more, but turned some down too, responded less. The last message was a cordial 'I've got a lot on' kind of message. Yes I contemplated more direct feedback, but does she need to know I don't like her values? Is that better for her self esteem? I could have said I'm not great at friendship, which is true, but not the reason. Yes it's going to be awkward when we inevitably bump into each other, but I will say hi and talk if she wants to.
I have had two people fade me out too, quite suddenly - no hard feelings on my part, maybe I was sharing views they didn't agree with, or talking too much, or someone told them something about me, or I wasn't making enough effort, or we didn't have enough in common any more. I think well of them both, it's life.

ilovesooty · 19/10/2024 16:34

bringincrazyback · 19/10/2024 16:07

I have to admit that would be a blocking offence in my book too. Ditto other offensive views.

I wouldn't be hanging around for an hour while someone cried and tried to justify their offensive comments.

Justletmemoveon · 19/10/2024 16:28

bringincrazyback · 19/10/2024 14:03

Alternatively, you could do all that and then... not block? 🤔

Unless the person is behaving in a way that warrants blocking, obviously.

This thread has really got me thinking. I blocked an old friend this week (which I’ve never done before) and have been feeling really guilty about it and wondering whether it was childish and avoidant of me. However, this person had been really horrible to me, and I just didn’t want to listen to any more of his nasty comments (second time in a month or so that he’s laid into me).

I did give him an explanation first and told him my reasons and said I didn’t think it was good for us to be in contact anymore. Looking back tho, I think he misinterpreted something I said, and maybe I over-reacted. It won’t have been nice for him to have been blocked. It’s been good reading this thread and different opinions.

Edited to say I now wish I’d had a grown up conversation with him!

Redruns · 19/10/2024 16:22

That said I have ghosted a friend. She probably has no idea why, but it's because as we've got older our moral compass seems to have diverged completely. I've become more wishy washy liberal, or maybe less tolerant of nasty extreme views, and she can spend ages ranting about immigrants and benefit cheats. I have told her I don't want to talk about those things but she didn't stop, so I've distanced myself.

Redruns · 19/10/2024 16:19

I've never felt the need to block anyone either and probably wouldn't notice if I'd been blocked but I can see a situation where someone does it to preserve their own sanity.

E.g. a man who's not exactly done anything wrong but is keeping you on tenterhooks waiting for messages with no real intent. Better to remove the temptation to message him and the possibility that he might text you iyswim rather than be constantly checking your phone.

BabyCloud · 19/10/2024 16:19

ilovesooty · 18/10/2024 15:33

There are a good few posters who seem to think it's acceptable to ghost people who you might have been friends with for years. They're often people who "don't like confrontation" and seem to be incapable of honest communication.

I’m not shy of confrontation. I spoke to the friend I ghosted multiple times about what was bothering me. They would apologise and then revert straight back so in the end I didn’t think there was any need to try and speak about it any further.

BabyCloud · 19/10/2024 16:13

I have ghosted my friend of 20 years. I haven’t blocked them though.

It’s not what I wanted but I was disappointed so many times by them that when it happened the last time I decided enough was enough. I won’t settle for people treating me like I am disposable unless it suits them.
It’s been about a month now and they haven’t reached out anyway.

bringincrazyback · 19/10/2024 16:07

Octavia64 · 19/10/2024 14:10

I've had a couple of those conversations.

They can get very uncomfortable and borderline dangerous.

I stopped talking to one "friend" after she said that it was perfectly ok to talk about how disabled people were a drag in society and useless. (I'm disabled).

I said to her I found that upsetting and she burst into tears, spent nearly an hour trying to persuade me that she was right and that it wasn't something I should be upset about.

Never again.

Now when someone is nasty about disabled people I just don't speak to them again.

I have to admit that would be a blocking offence in my book too. Ditto other offensive views.

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TheWayTheLightFalls · 19/10/2024 14:15

I think every approach can backfire unfortunately.

Years ago now I had a friendship go to hell because I was honest with my friend about her child’s bad behaviour in my home. I was polite but factual. All blew up terribly.

More recently I started to see the same pattern again. I thought I’d politely distance myself, refuse meetups etc and just build some distance. I’m still being pursued for meetups a year on!

Octavia64 · 19/10/2024 14:10

I've had a couple of those conversations.

They can get very uncomfortable and borderline dangerous.

I stopped talking to one "friend" after she said that it was perfectly ok to talk about how disabled people were a drag in society and useless. (I'm disabled).

I said to her I found that upsetting and she burst into tears, spent nearly an hour trying to persuade me that she was right and that it wasn't something I should be upset about.

Never again.

Now when someone is nasty about disabled people I just don't speak to them again.

SukeyBenedict · 19/10/2024 14:06

EmeraldRoulette · 18/10/2024 15:17

@bringincrazyback in terms of friendships, I absolutely agree with you. It feels as if it crept through from internet dating culture and somehow became an acceptable way to treat friends.

I really don't understand how it has turned out like this. Maybe the damage of online culture generally.

edit - last year someone said to me that internet dating culture was going to damage society and I'd feel the result even though I don't do it. I was baffled! Now I understand why they thought that.

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This is such a good point.

5yrs ago I was ghosted by a woman who had been one of closest friends. I was (& remain) baffled by it. Totally and utterly baffled.

I wonder if anyone who hasn’t been through it can possibly understand the absolute devastation that ‘just block and ignore’ can cause when the other person has no idea what they have done. Genuinely no clue at all. And to say ‘people don’t owe you an explanation’ - you know what, sometimes it’s just common decency to afford someone that level of dignity.

Imagine the sheer misery of reaching out to someone and not realising that you are blocked or are being ignored for a reason you know nothing about.

bringincrazyback · 19/10/2024 14:03

Jessie1259 · 19/10/2024 12:24

Why not just message to say it's not working out for you and you've decided to cut contact but wish them well - and then block. How do you decide who you 'owe' something to and who you don't? It's a very bizarre concept to me.

If you just ghost someone they're going to be wondering what's going on and more likely to try and contact you another way to find out. Why not just end it and then block? It's not about 'owing' anyone anything.

Alternatively, you could do all that and then... not block? 🤔

Unless the person is behaving in a way that warrants blocking, obviously.

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bringincrazyback · 19/10/2024 14:02

vivainsomnia · 19/10/2024 12:13

Ghosting's in the same ballpark, though? I may have misinterpreted your post, but the intention of my OP wasn't to present ghosting as an alternative to blocking, my view is that they're both overkill/inappropriate in some scenarios
My post was in support of yours. It was to show that ultimately, it's the easiest way to get rid of an uncomfortable situation, even if it's clear from posts from those who've been on the other side that it's not nice when you're the receiver.

Ah yeah, sorry, I was reading your post in the wrong light. Been a long week 😄

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Jessie1259 · 19/10/2024 12:24

Why not just message to say it's not working out for you and you've decided to cut contact but wish them well - and then block. How do you decide who you 'owe' something to and who you don't? It's a very bizarre concept to me.

If you just ghost someone they're going to be wondering what's going on and more likely to try and contact you another way to find out. Why not just end it and then block? It's not about 'owing' anyone anything.

vivainsomnia · 19/10/2024 12:13

Ghosting's in the same ballpark, though? I may have misinterpreted your post, but the intention of my OP wasn't to present ghosting as an alternative to blocking, my view is that they're both overkill/inappropriate in some scenarios
My post was in support of yours. It was to show that ultimately, it's the easiest way to get rid of an uncomfortable situation, even if it's clear from posts from those who've been on the other side that it's not nice when you're the receiver.

bringincrazyback · 19/10/2024 11:51

vivainsomnia · 18/10/2024 14:24

There almost as many posts complaining that posters are ghosted and they don't know why and people tell them that's it's a very coward way to do things so O guess it depends on which end you fall!

Ghosting's in the same ballpark, though? I may have misinterpreted your post, but the intention of my OP wasn't to present ghosting as an alternative to blocking, my view is that they're both overkill/inappropriate in some scenarios.

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bringincrazyback · 18/10/2024 22:19

LoraPiano · 18/10/2024 15:10

In the context of dating, when you meet a bunch of random people from apps, why should you not block when it is not going anywhere? I have done OLD briefly and you never know why someone you have been on one date with two years ago presumes he can get in touch to "see how you are" and try to "catch up".

For longer friendships and relationships, I agree with you.

I get what you're saying re dating app randoms. But even then, I don't think I'd block someone unless they caused me problems in some way, simply because it would feel redundant - I wouldn't flatter myself that they'd give me enough thought to stalk or hassle me, if it'd only been a few dates. Obviously it'd be different if they were making a nuisance of themselves or being inappropriate.

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PaminaMozart · 18/10/2024 16:12

Blocking after a couple of dates because (to make up a random example) someone blows their nose too loudly? Not so much. Same goes for blocking a lifelong friend because of a minor disagreement

I agree with the latter but not the former. I see no reason not to block a date because the relationship, for whatever reason, has no future. Ideally after sending a 'fare thee well' message. I think ghosting without warning is both cowardly and rude, unless the person was obnoxious in some way.

I agree with whoever said that dating etiquette seems to have started to influence how people handle friendships. Blocking a friend without warning, especially someone who has been in one's life for a considerable time, is very hurtful - particularly if the person being dropped has no idea why. At least offer an honest but civil explanation.

That's the key really - only ghost after a final message, unless you are dealing with an Rshole.

ilovesooty · 18/10/2024 15:50

thepariscrimefiles · 18/10/2024 15:49

Surely you should ghost/block her for those views?

I'd be telling someone with those views why I didn't want to continue a friendship with them.

thepariscrimefiles · 18/10/2024 15:49

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 18/10/2024 15:14

Completely agree. My former best friend of 40 years ghosted me and when I asked her about she said yes I have been because you’re not interested in things that are important to me (watching videos about Covid and vaccine conspiracies and thinking Putin is justified in invading Ukraine)

Surely you should ghost/block her for those views?

ilovesooty · 18/10/2024 15:33

There are a good few posters who seem to think it's acceptable to ghost people who you might have been friends with for years. They're often people who "don't like confrontation" and seem to be incapable of honest communication.

username3678 · 18/10/2024 15:19

I agree that blocking a friend with no prior discussion is immature. Dating wise, it depends on how long you have been dating. Blocking someone without a discussion after six months is obviously wrong.

I say the above if there's no abusive behaviour whatsoever.

I haven't noticed a trend for advising people to block friends or boyfriend without a discussion.

EmeraldRoulette · 18/10/2024 15:17

@bringincrazyback in terms of friendships, I absolutely agree with you. It feels as if it crept through from internet dating culture and somehow became an acceptable way to treat friends.

I really don't understand how it has turned out like this. Maybe the damage of online culture generally.

edit - last year someone said to me that internet dating culture was going to damage society and I'd feel the result even though I don't do it. I was baffled! Now I understand why they thought that.

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