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Are Smaller Companies Better to Work for? I've Become so Angry working in this Large Organisation.

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Horrace · 18/10/2024 14:03

I've worked for a large bank/finance company for almost 29 yrs. Have mostly enjoyed it. But in recent years they have tried so hard to get with the times that it's gone overboard.
They celebrate everything and do everything in their power to make us celebrate with them whether we believe in it or not. And if we don't, well, you guessed it, we get pulled up on it for not sharing the banks values.
It's not just the company, it's the world in general. I've become an angry person and I want to get off.

I don't want to get into an argument about me being a dinosaur. I just want to go to work and do my work. I don't want to celebrate or be constantly reminded about every religious festival, pronoun day etc.

I still need to work.

Would a smaller company be more inclined to leave their employees to have their own political views and allow them to just get on with work.
It's a massive decision. But I'm so miserable and frustrated when I am. But it's all I've known.
Any advice is appreciated

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Giraff3 · 19/10/2024 21:15

ive worked for both

Id now always choose the larger org.

Smaller companies i have worked for their family members are being hired or promoted and its frustrating. People also know each others business.

LlynTegid · 19/10/2024 21:08

Where I think the OP has a valid point is that often alongside all the various examples, many of which are things we should be concerned about, is that they are trying to put out a message of 'we are caring'.

When in many ways, the opposite is true. Basic caring things of being able to finish work on time, not having to deal with pointless or unduly complicated bureaucracy, and having managers with people skills, all don't happen in many of those companies who do a lot of the examples given.

Or they treat customers badly. I bet there are charities Ryanair support, for example.

rainfallpurevividcat · 19/10/2024 20:52

I work in an association with about 15 employees. It's not perfect but I definitely enjoy it more than the corporate crap you get with larger entitties.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 19/10/2024 20:48

I'd stay with the big company. You'll be even angrier in a smaller company with a smaller pay packet!

Just ignore! You don't have to join in. Head down. Do your work. Collect the pay and enjoy their pension contributions.

craftysnake · 19/10/2024 15:45

Just lolling at your capital letters

SilverGlitterBaubles · 19/10/2024 15:36

How does anyone get any work done with all this? Most of the time these things are superficial a tick box exercise for show. Just treat people fairly, pay them well and let them get on with their jobs. Also agree OP that peri/ menopause lowers your BS threshold which is difficult but as others have said just try to ignore it all and get on with your day. Perhaps suggest they do something to celebrate the menopause, like sending you to a nice spa retreat 😂

workingmumguilt · 19/10/2024 14:48

Does your organisation offer sabbaticals? Once of my previous companies did. If you could afford it, maybe some extended leave would help clear the mind?

Horrace · 19/10/2024 14:12

@workinworkingmumguilt
These are all good points.

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I have a lot to think about. Will get some financial advice too. But more importantly, I need to calm the fuck down and try not to let the lunatics get to me.

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OceanStorm · 19/10/2024 14:11

@Horrace it clearly would benefit you and your family to seek help for your anger. It's not normal.

You may also want to do a self referral to PREVENT so this doesn't escalate

workingmumguilt · 19/10/2024 13:45

I worked for large multi national companies for over a decade. I got disillusioned and decided to move right to the opposite end of the pool, to a 25 person business.

Im now looking to go back to a large business.

Top issues for me at the smaller business:

Family employees shit at their jobs and overpaid but untouchable

Limited cash flow so innovation is stifled and investing in new tech or resource is impossible

No HR really. It’s outsourced and bare minimum in terms of policies/entitlements

No support or teams to collaborate with. Feel very isolated in my role whereas before I had 10-20 close colleagues who’d all support each other on projects

Lack of clear future path. In corporate I could see the path ahead.

Slow to change to meet new legislation etc (very relevant in my industry). Feeling like lack of cash means no time available to spend on proper mandatory training. Feeling very exposed.

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Yellow2024 · 19/10/2024 13:17

I worked for a small company and it was the worse thing I ever did. Crap pay. Rude "managers '. Wanted to argue my values. Really intrusive with my home life. Not ever again.

I work for a large company now and just delete any stupid emails and keep my head low so when I don't attend these events they don't notice 😁

OceanStorm · 19/10/2024 13:13

Horrace · 19/10/2024 13:09

And what about the virtual white boards where we have to say
What went well
What didn't go so well
What have we learnt
What actions can we take
All from the last 2 weeks

I've found myself having a power cut or some other random emergency to get out of these because my mind goes blank. Absolutely pointless meets

You have to participate in a virtual whiteboard for black history month?

I understand if it's not your thing but you feeling 'rage' over it should be explored. It seem like it stems from hate

Horrace · 19/10/2024 13:09

And what about the virtual white boards where we have to say
What went well
What didn't go so well
What have we learnt
What actions can we take
All from the last 2 weeks

I've found myself having a power cut or some other random emergency to get out of these because my mind goes blank. Absolutely pointless meets

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OceanStorm · 19/10/2024 13:07

@Horrace you call in sick for the whole black history month?!

Do you hate black people?

CharlotteStreetW1 · 19/10/2024 13:06

Suzuki70 · 18/10/2024 14:38

Depends. I am in a small company where half the employees are from the same family and that comes with its own issues such as no internal HR and usually very few benefits, basic NEST pension. I do love it but it only suits a certain type of person.

Same here but the office manager is on "our side" despite being part of the family. She often stands up to her siblings and in-law for us. There is flexibility and they genuinely care about us. Very few perks although the money and annual leave aren't bad but a lovely atmosphere with no politics - internal or external.

TwistedWonder · 19/10/2024 13:04

I’ve worked for a couple of smaller companies that were really easy and let us all just get on with doing our jobs with no drama.

Then both were taken over by huge American corporations and the whole environment was as destroyed. It became very ‘right on’ all about celebrating various causes and becoming allies.

I took voluntary redundancy from the first company because the whole culture became robotic and one size fits all and I spent all day doing admin and box ticking rather than my actual job.

Joined another small local company and it’s history repeating itself except this time it's even worse. The board is all in the US no one ever even visited our office but their entire ethos is ‘because we say so’ - I really feel like I’m too old for this shit. I’ve got nearly 40 years experience in this industry, let me do my job in please without celebrating something every bloody week

Horrace · 19/10/2024 13:01

EddyF · 19/10/2024 12:58

Try and enjoy Black History Month.

I call in sick for that

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EddyF · 19/10/2024 12:58

Try and enjoy Black History Month.

Horrace · 19/10/2024 12:48

Waitfortheguinness · 19/10/2024 12:31

Above all, you seem to have retained a brilliant sense of humour…..hold onto that…..we need people like you amongst all these twatting numbnuts!

Well I've just taken myself for a walk to my favourite place. The cemetery 🤣. I know it sounds bonkers but it's on my doorstep and it's peaceful. I like walking in the old part where the stones are falling down and they date back to the early 1800s. As I'm walking I'm laughing to myself thinking how I want to be buried with these oldies, the Victorians who are hopefully less bonkers than the modern lot at the top end of the cemetery.
This is what goes through my head 😂

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Waitfortheguinness · 19/10/2024 12:31

Above all, you seem to have retained a brilliant sense of humour…..hold onto that…..we need people like you amongst all these twatting numbnuts!

Waitfortheguinness · 19/10/2024 12:26

Horrace · 18/10/2024 19:13

You've hit the nail on the head. No I don't.
Currently I do a lot of running around after work and weekends for my elderly parents.
It's what happens at this time of life I guess. Menopause, teenagers, elderly parents and the world gone mad.

You need some time for you, recoup and breathe….not always easy we know…..but teenagers can pull their own weight and help with stuff!
Just getting time out in nature can help, do you have somewhere you can go and have a walk, maybe a coffee too…..just you or a relaxed friend?

Ariela · 19/10/2024 11:41

I used to work for large corporate multinational (that bought the smaller really nice company, where all the directors knew and respected me for what I did) where I had become just one of a number of many doing similar jobs in different worldwide divisions. Hated it.

Years later & post kids now work for a small business where money isn't as good, but I work far less hours with minimal commute, terms/conditions are fabulous, all the people working here are truly lovely, my work is appreciated and if I need flexibility the owners/management have my back. I prefer to be appreciated over money in pocket.

Imperfectionist · 19/10/2024 11:11

Sympathies OP. Stay where you are or move to another large company on your own terms. Hope you can find an activity to do outside of work that makes you happy. Even if something small, for now.

Crikeyalmighty · 19/10/2024 10:18

Honestly the amount of crap that goes on these days in many companies large and small- I once worked as office manager where ringing a bell was involved and standing on a chair if you made a sale- and there was a wall chart of sales in office- I lasted about 6 weeks! It's nursery school behaviour

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