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AIBU to ask a friend not to cook if she's coming over?

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verityeer · 18/10/2024 12:37

"Bella" and I are good friends and meet up fairly regularly to play squash, grab a lunch, or even just have a glass of wine and a gab.

The last couple of times I've suggested we meet up, Bella has offered to come over to mine and cook. It's a lovely offer on paper, but we've done it twice now, and to be perfectly honest, I find it a bit more tedious than relaxing. Bella is a messy cook and whilst she always offers to tidy up, she isn't quite as thorough as me. She misses spots of sauce on the splashback, crumbs in the crevices, sink is soaked after doing the dishes. Wee things that would be fussy to hover over her for after she's just cooked us a meal, but I still have to do the next day in addition to the leftover dishes from actually eating the meal and the snacks afterwards. She takes a lot of pride in her cooking, and can get a wee bit antsy if she feels you haven't suitably praised her delicious meal. I appreciate her effort, but do prefer my own cooking. Her cooking leaves a lingering aroma, but she doesn't like to open the windows or use the extractor fan. We go the shops beforehand and split the cost, but I end up with all sorts of tubs of half-used things the next day, and it ends up costing the same as a meal out in the first place.

DH is away this weekend, and Bella has offered to come around and cook on Saturday night again. I've told her I'd love to see her, but would prefer to just get a takeaway and relax this weekend. She pushed back a few times, so I ended up being more direct and saying that while I love her company, I've just spent all week shopping, cooking, and cleaning and don't want to spend my whole weekend doing the same. Now Bella is miffed and feels I've snubbed her.

Am I being a miserly guts who should just enjoy the favour in the way it's intended? Or would you have put your foot down as well?

OP posts:
AgainandagainandagainSS · 18/10/2024 14:56

I loath having anyone messing about in my kitchen. YANBU at all.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 18/10/2024 14:48

OP, you sound like a very pleasant person , who keeps a tidy and clean house which is nice to be in!

Sometimes you just have to defend your space though, and if people try to push back, push back harder….

mammaCh · 18/10/2024 14:46

I would never dream of cooking in someone else's house. That's just so odd. And I would hate anyone to do it in mine.

Trinity65 · 18/10/2024 14:42

YANBU

ChampagneLassie · 18/10/2024 14:40

SIL & kids came to visit when baby was 3 weeks old for Sunday lunch which we were happy to do. SHe offered to bring lunch to save us effort. Great I thought. Except they turned up late stuff to make a meal rather than food ready to go in oven or such like. They made loads of mess I ended up eating leftovers as I was starving and the meal eventually served was very mediocre. This was certainly no favour. I don’t think id ever accept an offer to cook in my kitchen again! I’m sure she thinks she’s being nice but she’s pleasing herself really. If she’s going to take the jump over this she’s being a dick. I’d revert back to suggestion of glass of wine out.

latebusdrama · 18/10/2024 14:39

Does Bella not have any kitchen in her maisonette? How on earth can she manage!

pizzaHeart · 18/10/2024 14:36

I’ve just saw your update about her living arrangements - it’s unfortunate then but it doesn’t give her a free pass to cook in your kitchen.
I absolutely hate someone’s else cooking or washing in my kitchen (except DH and DD) and it won’t be relaxing evening for me at all.
In a way it’s a bit rude on her side. You want to see her but she want to rent your kitchen for practicing, I know it’s not like this but why chat only invite is not good enough for her?

LoafofSellotape · 18/10/2024 14:33

lamiconds · 18/10/2024 13:17

I absolutely hate people cooking in my kitchen.

TBH I don't even really like DH cooking in it but I accept that that's unreasonable.

So do I but I have a hopefully future DIL who stays over and I've had to unclench 😂

In this situation I would just keep saying you've had a hard week and need to relax.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 18/10/2024 14:33

Fizbosshoes · 18/10/2024 13:24

DH loves cooking and trying fancier, and more time consuming recipes than I can be bothered with. People are always telling me how lucky I am that he likes - and is good at cooking.
The food is good, but he uses lots of ingredients and seemingly every pan or tray in the kitchen and is very hit and miss (mostly miss) about clearing any of it away, or washing up as he goes along, or wiping up spillages.
He lives here so I have to put up with it but if it was a friend I'd definitely suggest a take away!!

I didn’t know I am married to a bigamist😂

TheHeight · 18/10/2024 14:32

Your home, your decision. She is overreacting and a bit overbearing by the sounds of it.

pictoosh · 18/10/2024 14:31

It's nice of her to offer but not so nice that she's being a bit insistent and put out about the no thank you. It's your house so she has no business feeling offended.
Fwiw I wouldn't like having someone else cook in my kitchen either. I'm not fussy or worried about mess...I just couldn't be bothered with the premise of it.

verityeer · 18/10/2024 14:30

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 18/10/2024 14:17

Would she feel betrayed and lose her temper if you had a few evenings in with her cooking and she felt it was now part of 'regular' life, whereas for you it's optional? I've had situations like this with friends who wanted to set up an expectation or rhythm I simply couldn't meet (with anyone but a partner).

Edited

I think you've hit on a good point here — I think she'd love to make this a regular weekly thing as would give her something consistent to do at the weekend. But I have DH, DCs, and other commitments to balance.

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Blogswife · 18/10/2024 14:29

Oh god no !! My DH and I take it in turns to cook while the other cleans up after them . I wash up as I go along whereas my DH uses every pan in the kitchen and makes a huge mess ( he’s a great cook tho!) sometimes I offer to cook just so I don’t have to clear up the aftermath
I’d find this a huge intrusion and wouldn’t let it become “ a thing “!

pizzaHeart · 18/10/2024 14:28

ThinWomansBrain · 18/10/2024 12:41

if she's that keen to cook, why doesn't she invite you to hers and cook messily in her own home?

Or cook something & bring it with her?

Edited

this^
it’s much more sensible and grown up approach.

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:27

I've definitely seen this post before e

Codlingmoths · 18/10/2024 14:27

Bella needs to read the room. I’d have actually said you have to have the extractor fan on if you’re using the stove.

QuintessentialDragon · 18/10/2024 14:26

Hell no.

Dated a guy for a while some time ago. He was a professional chef and a foodie. We were just completely incompatible, in the hindsight.

He didn't do anything wrong, but he did like to cook for me at his own house or mine. That wasn't such a problem, but he cooked elaborate complicated meals, it took so much time and then the cleanup (we shared that). Also, he liked to talk about food, ingredients, what goes with what, where to source this and that, yadda yadda.

I view food as fuel and don't give a shiny shit what I eat. I want to keep trim and healthy, so basically eat some simple protein+veg combos all the time. Taste isn't relevant to me, most important is the speed, the less time spent preparing and eating meals - the better. Then we/me would have time to do some actually interesting/fun things. So I found his obsession with food absolutely tedious and it didn't last.

So no, I certainly wouldn't agree on my friend cooking in my kitchen, a waste of time that could be spend on doing something else. And then waste even more time on cleanup.

verityeer · 18/10/2024 14:25

lololulu · 18/10/2024 14:00

Would you not usually cook at the weekend?

Why do you spend all weekend cleaning if she cooks once?

Either way I wouldn't get keen on her cooking st mine. You haven't said if you enjoy her food?

I'm exaggerating a bit here to be fair, using all weekend more as a figure of speech. I mean more like; I usually do a deep clean of my whole house on a Saturday morning. I'll give the surfaces a quick wipe and the floors a quick sweep after cooking on a weekday, but on a Saturday I'll mop the floors, wash the windows, scrub the oven, elbow-grease the hob, do the beds, that sort of thing. I'll usually cook something I've prepped earlier in the week at the end of the day, like chilli and rice. Minimal cooking, minimal cleaning. So I don't really then want to get up the next day and wash all the leftover dishes, wash the hob again, clean the splashback, mop sauce from the floor, get the smell of fish out my curtains...

I could just not deep clean before she came over, but I'd feel really uncomfortable😂

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LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 18/10/2024 14:23

I have cooked a lot for or with friends including families and couples but it's usually arisen naturally as part of a day or evening out rather than being a special occasion, e.g. one person cooking, another sorting children, another going to drive or being in charge of the walk route, etc.

Easipeelerie · 18/10/2024 14:19

Insisting on cooking at your house on several occasions is a bit outside the normal bounds of polite behaviour. The fact she’s been so easily offended adds to the CF vibe. Seems she wants to live like someone who’s not a lodger so using you as the place to do that.
If she doesn’t want to be a lodger, she needs to save up.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 18/10/2024 14:17

Would she feel betrayed and lose her temper if you had a few evenings in with her cooking and she felt it was now part of 'regular' life, whereas for you it's optional? I've had situations like this with friends who wanted to set up an expectation or rhythm I simply couldn't meet (with anyone but a partner).

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/10/2024 14:17

TokyoSushi · 18/10/2024 14:13

It would honestly never occur to me to go to somebody else's house and cook a dinner there. Maybe I'm very sheltered but I find this really odd and would hate somebody to come and do it at my house!

I do it at my aunt’s house when we go to stay because she genuinely doesn’t want to cook every day for me and two children (plus another family member who lives with her).

Plus my son is quite fussy due to ADHD and dd and I are vegetarian, so it just works 😂

Dahlia444 · 18/10/2024 14:16

I have a friend who used to insist on this. She is the loveliest person to the point of lack of self awareness that her gifts/nice things can ultimately make the receiver feel awkward and put upon. I had this forced on me a few times and after being hangry (she is slow at cooking!) and dealing with mess including messy ovens, this is the one plus point that all our circumstances have changed and we now keep in touch almost entirely on the phone!

Savingthehedgehogs · 18/10/2024 14:15

Hey I am on a new diet pre Christmas detox so drinks only from now dear friend.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/10/2024 14:14

I’m sure that in her head it’s a nice suggestion but it doesn’t work for you, understandably.

As others have said, if cooking is a hobby that she wants to pursue but can’t at home, that doesn’t make it your responsibility to facilitate that, with all the cleaning up and cost that it necessarily entails.

”I just want to relax” should be a good enough reason for anyone - where she became rude, I think, was in pushing back when you said it didn’t suit you.

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