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AIBU to ask a friend not to cook if she's coming over?

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verityeer · 18/10/2024 12:37

"Bella" and I are good friends and meet up fairly regularly to play squash, grab a lunch, or even just have a glass of wine and a gab.

The last couple of times I've suggested we meet up, Bella has offered to come over to mine and cook. It's a lovely offer on paper, but we've done it twice now, and to be perfectly honest, I find it a bit more tedious than relaxing. Bella is a messy cook and whilst she always offers to tidy up, she isn't quite as thorough as me. She misses spots of sauce on the splashback, crumbs in the crevices, sink is soaked after doing the dishes. Wee things that would be fussy to hover over her for after she's just cooked us a meal, but I still have to do the next day in addition to the leftover dishes from actually eating the meal and the snacks afterwards. She takes a lot of pride in her cooking, and can get a wee bit antsy if she feels you haven't suitably praised her delicious meal. I appreciate her effort, but do prefer my own cooking. Her cooking leaves a lingering aroma, but she doesn't like to open the windows or use the extractor fan. We go the shops beforehand and split the cost, but I end up with all sorts of tubs of half-used things the next day, and it ends up costing the same as a meal out in the first place.

DH is away this weekend, and Bella has offered to come around and cook on Saturday night again. I've told her I'd love to see her, but would prefer to just get a takeaway and relax this weekend. She pushed back a few times, so I ended up being more direct and saying that while I love her company, I've just spent all week shopping, cooking, and cleaning and don't want to spend my whole weekend doing the same. Now Bella is miffed and feels I've snubbed her.

Am I being a miserly guts who should just enjoy the favour in the way it's intended? Or would you have put your foot down as well?

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verityeer · 18/10/2024 19:59

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 18/10/2024 17:01

You have an entire family unit to do things with on a weekend. A friend must expect you won't always be 'on' for a very engaging and active evening. Do you work during the week? You say Bella works from home all the time? Maybe she needs to hotdesk or get into a rhythm of going to a library or pod of some kind (café if affordable) so her human contact needs won't have built up by the weekend.

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I think that would be a good call. I think part of the reason she likes coming to cook as well is that it starts the day off early — we'll go the shops together and she can come around early afternoon. Whereas if it's just drinks or a takeout I normally wouldn't have her over until seven-ish.

I work M-F same as her, but I'm hybrid. Plus during the week am taking the dog out, running DCs back and forth to footie or dance or piano, popping in to see mum, etc. I don't think her calendar is very full by comparison.

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verityeer · 18/10/2024 19:03

RitzyMcFee · 18/10/2024 17:10

My mother is currently in this situation and it's driving her mad. Her sister has a kitchen in her flat, a perfectly lovely flat, but she says she 'doesn't want to make a mess' so it's 'easier' to do it at my mums house.

And also she critiques my mum's equipment. 'Oh, these knives aren't very sharp'.

Your poor mother! At least Bella doesn't flag off my kitchenware

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BettyBardMacDonald · 18/10/2024 18:39

I actually dropped a friend over her insistence on cooking. Granted it was at their place, not mine, but EVERY social occasion had to revolve around watching them cook, eating their food, praising their food, talking about food. So utterly tedious.

Plus the stuff they cooked was inedible. We have a mutual friend who is a food writer for a well-known publication and will eat anything, and SHE couldn't stomach "Clara's" cooking. The final straw was undercooked poached drumsticks, I kid you not. I literally gagged at the table and had to make an excuse.

No amount of alternative suggestions would do. "Let's just meet for a drink." "Let's try that new cafe." "How about coming to my place for a small cocktail party." "Let's go for a long walk." "Let's just go for cake and coffee." No, no and no. It ALWAYS had to be "dinner at Clara and Mark's place." Finally I just stopped responding to e-mails and texts. Perhaps cowardly but they just didn't listen, completely tone deaf to what friends were hinting at.

My closer friends and I all are middle-aged and trying to de-emphasize food in our lives. Our get-togethers these days tend to revolve around walking, visiting trust sites or garden centres, films, pubs or often helping one another with DIY projects and gardenings. A few nibbles and beer/wine ancillary to these activities, but few are interested any more in heavy meals or faffy cooking.

newrubylane · 18/10/2024 18:06

We have a friend who insists on cooking when they come here sometimes and it drives me nuts.

Lotsofsnacks · 18/10/2024 18:05

If you are not that fussed about her food, why not offer to cook for her one night? But thinking about it I can imagine she would turn it round and insist on herself doing the cooking! But agreed not great for you having someone mess your kitchen up and you aren’t even that fond of the end product. I think best you don’t even meet at yours the next time, say you want to go out just for a drink, no food involved!

renoleno · 18/10/2024 17:51

Is she friends with you or your kitchen? If she only wants to hang out with you so she can cook, not much of a friend! Hanging out with you should be the objective - be it over a takeaway or crisps. Don't people please, stand your ground.

alpenguin · 18/10/2024 17:50

I know someone like this. They think they’re a great cook and just love to show off in other peoples kitchens. To be fair they do tidy up so it’s not that that’s the problem, it’s the expectation for adulation and worship from others about how wonderful they are and the kitchen performance as if they’re bloody nigella on the telly. They tried running a restaurant kitchen once based on their love of cooking and everyone telling them how good they were. Barely lasted a week before asking a professional to step in and help. Didn’t stop the wanky cooking ego which lives on.

just tell your pal it’s your turn and you’re ordering a curry

Leopardprintlover101 · 18/10/2024 17:21

I’m absolutely with you, OP! I don’t even like anyone being in my kitchen putting things in the wrong place/hoking around in cupboards etc.

I think you’re the kind of person who would find someone else cooking in your kitchen a dream or a nightmare, and I’m definitely the latter! I couldn’t relax at all - I don’t even like guests helping clean up! I shoo them into the living with a drink while I sort the kitchen out.

MightSoundCrassButItsFactual · 18/10/2024 17:19

Bella being overly obsessed about her own cooking in her friends homes. Now, that is as bizarre as it can get and only on MN

BettyBardMacDonald · 18/10/2024 17:18

Beargrins · 18/10/2024 17:11

YANBU.
I think she sounds very controlling. Fair enough if cooking is her thing but to impose it on you in your home! I'd be having none of it.

Agree.

OP, I am perplexed that you continue to worry about being "a grump." What Bella proposes is a massive imposition, very controlling and not much fun.

She is using you to fill the void she feels in living alone. There is no reason she can't cook nice things for one person; it's absurd to think that one has to have a partner or family in order to justify making nice meals or practising cookery.

Just tell her that you like to relax in the evenings and that you deep clean on Saturdays and don't use the kitchen again until Monday. It was a one-off that you let her come before but you'd rather converse at a bar or restaurant than sit idly by while she is focused on the culinary efforts.

Can't imagine anyone so obtuse as to bring fish to someone else's home. And asking you to split the cost AND do all the cleanup, etc., is beyond the pale. She really sounds like a PITA, tbh.

Topsy44 · 18/10/2024 17:18

YANBU. What a faff!! I couldn’t be doing with that after a busy week at work and I agree with pp that it does sound a little controlling.

Beargrins · 18/10/2024 17:11

YANBU.
I think she sounds very controlling. Fair enough if cooking is her thing but to impose it on you in your home! I'd be having none of it.

RitzyMcFee · 18/10/2024 17:10

My mother is currently in this situation and it's driving her mad. Her sister has a kitchen in her flat, a perfectly lovely flat, but she says she 'doesn't want to make a mess' so it's 'easier' to do it at my mums house.

And also she critiques my mum's equipment. 'Oh, these knives aren't very sharp'.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 18/10/2024 17:10

Proper fried fish means draining off and disposing of oil, patting fish dry on a platter of paper towels, etc. I can understand if she was making a special herb marinade or beer batter version, but why not go to a posh chippy instead? (It's Friday btw and I'm now thinking of fish and chips...)

Polkad · 18/10/2024 17:07

You are very patient.
I wouldn't like this.
I certainly wouldn't like the clean up.
I think it is presumptuous.
As for house stinking?
Simply wouldn't have it.
Especially fish.🤢

Nanny0gg · 18/10/2024 17:07

verityeer · 18/10/2024 15:15

I was in the kitchen with her at the time and didn't really smell a lingering scent after we'd finished eating and she'd stuck the pan in the sink. But DH then came in from the garden and pulled me aside to say the room was absolutely stinking 😂

It's your house

If she cooks, the window is open and the extractor fan on

No argument

Breadcat24 · 18/10/2024 17:05

I would absolutely hate someone cooking for me in my kitchen. I like a clean kitchen and clean as I go so it would be super stressful.
Unless she brings a pie/casserole pre prepared it would be a firm no from me and actually I would say "It is a real pain cleaning up after you"

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 18/10/2024 17:01

You have an entire family unit to do things with on a weekend. A friend must expect you won't always be 'on' for a very engaging and active evening. Do you work during the week? You say Bella works from home all the time? Maybe she needs to hotdesk or get into a rhythm of going to a library or pod of some kind (café if affordable) so her human contact needs won't have built up by the weekend.

Aroastdinnerisnotahumanright · 18/10/2024 16:56

There's definitely been a thread about this before, at least you're not alone. I think she's just lonely and a little arrogant tbh.

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verityeer · 18/10/2024 16:24

ForPearlViper · 18/10/2024 15:34

A hard no from me. I think I'd be telling her my oven was on the blink - and the hob.

The point for me is that when someone comes over I want to spend time with them not do a joint shopping and cooking activity. If I want to watch someone cooking, I'll put on the food channel.

If I have people coming over I often cook as we don't have any decent takeaways nearby. However, I'll alway do something that can be prepped ahead and sorted with minimal work on the day. Then you can relax and enjoy the company.

My concern about the cookery course is she'd be keener than ever because she'll want to show what she's learnt!

Oh dear, I never thought about your last point! 😳

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verityeer · 18/10/2024 16:20

TheGander · 18/10/2024 15:51

Bella is probably a relative of mine. My whole family and I include myself, is cooking obsessed.

The thing is, I actually really enjoy cooking myself! So it's not as though she's coming around and relieving me of this chore I hate. Appreciate she probably thinks it's nice to be cooked for instead of cooking for DH and DCs. And I probably would like it if someone who cooks to my taste and was self-sufficient in my kitchen poured me a glass of wine and told me to chill on the couch with the dog and a book until dinner was ready. Unfortunately, Bella cooking in your house is... not quite that relaxing.

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NasiDagang · 18/10/2024 16:17

Fried fish can really stink, no wonder she wants to use your kitchen! She doesn't want to have a lingering smell at her place.

OMGsamesame · 18/10/2024 16:13

I've told her I'd love to see her, but would prefer to just get a takeaway and relax this weekend. She pushed back a few times, so I ended up being more direct and saying that while I love her company, I've just spent all week shopping, cooking, and cleaning and don't want to spend my whole weekend doing the same. Now Bella is miffed and feels I've snubbed her.

Of course YANBU to say no thank you to anyone proposing to do something in your home. Her mardy response is on her, not you.

verityeer · 18/10/2024 16:11

widelegenes · 18/10/2024 15:16

What do you mean "the sink is soaked"?

My sink/tap is a certified Splash Zone unless you have the tap turned exactly the right way. I should probably have said "area around the sink is soaked". Bella will fill the basin and dunk the pans in soapy water for me, but leaves the counter top all around the sink soaked, the windowsill behind it wet so everything on it is all slimy underneath, the cabinet below covered in drips, and whatnot. Not a big job to clean or anything, but annoying after I've just deep cleaned it. I'm the sort who wipes taps down after using them to avoid water streaks 😵‍💫

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