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To think MN is horrible about blended families?

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kungfullama · 18/10/2024 11:56

I've seen so many posts recently that just leads to think MN sees blended families as second class somehow.

Threads where ex wives are behaving horribly and withholding contact but are being defended because 'they were left' so somehow have the right to pass their bitterness onto their kids.

Posters screaming LTB at the slightest bit of conflict between dc and stepparents as if conflict doesn't ever occur in traditional families too.

Insinuating that new partners are just flash in the pan 'boyfriends' even when the relationship is long term or they're married.

Blended families can be complicated and the dynamics might be slightly different. But I know for a fact my dc lives are so much better with their bio parents apart and made considerably richer with the involvement of their two loving stepparents. I don't see us as being lesser than a traditional family. Not sure why others do.

OP posts:
Calliopespa · 19/10/2024 10:43

Woahtherehoney · 19/10/2024 10:28

I am super conflicted on this. I had a terrible experience with my dad and ‘step mum’ when I was a child - she was just not maternal at all, resented the attention my Dad gave us and her and my Dad made it VERY clear that they preferred my brother and I was just the little tag along.

On the other hand we are now a blended family with it being me, my DP and DSS. We’re really happy, have a really amicable relationship with DP’s ex and all we all want is for my DSS to be happy and feel loved which he does. We have a really good routine which DSS thrives in and he gets time at his Mum’s with his little brothers then is at ours 4/5 nights a week where he can decompress a bit.

I think anyone in a blended family needs to accept sometimes it doesn’t work and that’s ok - but you can’t say it doesn’t work in every single situation as it does in some.

It’s probably also worth adding it probably works so well for us as we don’t have children (me and DP) - DP’s ex has other younger children. It’s very unlikely I will have any children of my own so because DSS is our only one it works a lot better than if we were to add another child in.

Edited

This post almost brought tears to my eyes.

I’m so sorry about the experience you had growing up, but there are few things more touching than when someone takes their own bad experience and, learning from it, is able to transfer it into something positive and wonderful for another person. I’m sure from the way you write your childhood has helped you become a really special person for your DSS. When it does work, it’s an inspiring thing. I just think a lot of people are not honest about the impacts and motivations.

twinklystar23 · 19/10/2024 10:32

As my children were growing up many of their friends would voice their true feelings about step parents /step siblings / half siblings. It differed significantly from their parents narrative, the complete opposite in most circumstances. One child so revealed abuse from his step father.
Having had first-hand experience of this myself, it was only after I shared this fact with kids it unleashed an absolute torrent of upset and emotion.
Equally the friends I've made over the years only those who have remained single after a break up who have the most well adjusted young adults, than those who have moved an unrelated adult and/or their additional children into a blended family arrangement. That's not to say it doesn't ever work, though as in OP's case it's the exception not the rule.

Woahtherehoney · 19/10/2024 10:28

I am super conflicted on this. I had a terrible experience with my dad and ‘step mum’ when I was a child - she was just not maternal at all, resented the attention my Dad gave us and her and my Dad made it VERY clear that they preferred my brother and I was just the little tag along.

On the other hand we are now a blended family with it being me, my DP and DSS. We’re really happy, have a really amicable relationship with DP’s ex and all we all want is for my DSS to be happy and feel loved which he does. We have a really good routine which DSS thrives in and he gets time at his Mum’s with his little brothers then is at ours 4/5 nights a week where he can decompress a bit.

I think anyone in a blended family needs to accept sometimes it doesn’t work and that’s ok - but you can’t say it doesn’t work in every single situation as it does in some.

It’s probably also worth adding it probably works so well for us as we don’t have children (me and DP) - DP’s ex has other younger children. It’s very unlikely I will have any children of my own so because DSS is our only one it works a lot better than if we were to add another child in.

Chattenoire · 19/10/2024 10:27

gonnabeteoubleemma · 19/10/2024 08:16

It's a good sign?!

He's so unhappy in his other house that he feels the need to leave? And that's a good sign to you?

It means he's comfortable enough to be with us to stay extra nights (but cause it's convenient for him too!). I'm his stepmother so "normally" they'd like to stay as little as possible here. Or that's the stereotype anyway.

Calliopespa · 19/10/2024 10:25

Anxioustealady · 19/10/2024 10:20

Just want to clarify for anyone who thinks the people here with negative experiences are being hateful towards blended families or coming from a mean place, we really aren't.

I think what we're doing is what we wish someone did for us when we were powerless children, stuck in a situation we didn’t choose with no way out - advocating for the children.

We're not attacking step parents, we're defending the children.

I think that’s a very helpful addition to the conversation.

I know that when I see stepparent threads, I often am struck by what that situation must look like from the child’s point of view. And I don’t think that’s wrong as an instinct.

Anxioustealady · 19/10/2024 10:20

Just want to clarify for anyone who thinks the people here with negative experiences are being hateful towards blended families or coming from a mean place, we really aren't.

I think what we're doing is what we wish someone did for us when we were powerless children, stuck in a situation we didn’t choose with no way out - advocating for the children.

We're not attacking step parents, we're defending the children.

Calliopespa · 19/10/2024 10:10

bombastix · 18/10/2024 19:39

This is it. The constant prospect of adjustment.

in a biological family, the child has a good chance of being the centre of consideration and there will be consistency.

In a blended family, it is the child, the individual who has the least resilience to stress, the least understanding, and the least capacity to navigate a very complex social situation who constantly asked to adjust by a parent who gets total consistency. Who bears the stress? The child. The parent who makes the arrangement gets the benefits. It is most often driven by parental need.

Aah but haven’t you heard?!! Children are “adaptable.”

It might just be that they are powerless to change anything but adaptable is a better term: much easier on the conscience of adults inflicting the upheaval.

RM2013 · 19/10/2024 10:06

Hand on heart if I could give advice to my younger self it would be don’t fall for a man who already has a child. DH and his ex were only teens when they found out they were having child and it ended up being a resentful and toxic relationship that ended when their child was 2 so their child doesn’t remember them ever living together.
There were many areas of stress, tension and now I believe resentment as SC as an adult having seen our bio kids being brought up by their Dad and not having had the experiences that they have had due to many different factors. For example SC parents were teenagers when they were born, they were on a very low income the split was very acrimonious and ex moved on quickly and met someone new who moved in had another child together, they then moved several hours drive away and refused to do any of the travelling for access.
DH and I got together several years after they separated and by the time we had our own kids SC was late teens and is now an adult.
I do feel SC resents the fact that he never lived with his Dad and he’s seen his Dad bring up our 2 children and whilst close their relationship is definitely different. I’m also sure that SC probably didn’t want all the step parents that he had - me included and particularly the ones that he had to live with.

So yes my experience is that it wasn’t the easiest situation for anyone involved including all of the kids. Hindsight is a great thing.

i do however have a good friend that seems to have navigated a blended family well - she has 3 DC and her bf has 1 and they all spend holidays and weekends together and it seems to work but who knows how anyone really feels

Wellingtonspie · 19/10/2024 09:59

Loadsapandas · 19/10/2024 09:39

I think the above is true but I imagine the sense of loss, abandonment, not being good enough or wanted is amplified in a blended family.

The DSC may hear or sense they don’t ‘fit’ anywhere, having to mould yourself to different standards every few days/weeks cannot be easy.

They may have an adult making it clear their presence isn’t wanted, maybe time spent with their parent always has to be shared with someone else’s child . Or that parent often leaves them with a resentful adult.

Maybe they have to witness the ‘together’ family and get a sense of loss that they shift in/out.

I think blended families work where theres a decent amount of compassion for how it affects the DSC.

Yes always sharing your parent. Because someone else’s child is always tagging along. Normally because we are meant to be one big happily family.

A child who often gets to live full time or only disappears eow themselves so gets your parent much more than you only visiting eow. Of course you both have to be there the same eow because family time. Rather than getting that one on one. Because the adults want alone time eow with no children. Till the new baby arrives.

Calliopespa · 19/10/2024 09:56

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:06

Interesting that you’re saying it’s common from step parents. I wonder why you’re focussing on step parents rather than biological parents.

Not that I think step parents get a free pass at all, but I’m wondering why you have focussed on them asking you and not your mum or dad.

I think she was referring to the posters who had made comments, whom she took to be stepparents. That’s how I read it.

Loadsapandas · 19/10/2024 09:56

@ineedsun

They say things like ‘step dad understands what mums like and calms her down a bit’ or step parent is the only one who actually shows an interest.

The above amplifies how useless the parent is, having someone not obliged to care for you do so while the present obligated person doesn’t must be a real mind fuck.

We know together families aren’t necessarily happy or beneficial for children, but here we are specifically talking about blended families.

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:47

Loadsapandas · 19/10/2024 09:39

I think the above is true but I imagine the sense of loss, abandonment, not being good enough or wanted is amplified in a blended family.

The DSC may hear or sense they don’t ‘fit’ anywhere, having to mould yourself to different standards every few days/weeks cannot be easy.

They may have an adult making it clear their presence isn’t wanted, maybe time spent with their parent always has to be shared with someone else’s child . Or that parent often leaves them with a resentful adult.

Maybe they have to witness the ‘together’ family and get a sense of loss that they shift in/out.

I think blended families work where theres a decent amount of compassion for how it affects the DSC.

As you say, that very much depends on the blended family. For a lot of the young people I see, the step parent / siblings are actually a protective issue. They say things like ‘step dad understands what mums like and calms her down a bit’ or step parent is the only one who actually shows an interest. It’s actually really common in the people I talk to for that sort of sentiment to be expressed.

For some families there is a dynamic as you describe above but it’s certainly not such a blanket negative experience as some would convey on here in my experience.

Your final sentence captures it but I’d extend that sentiment to all families, not just blended ones.

Illpickthatup · 19/10/2024 09:46

mamajong · 19/10/2024 08:21

We have a genuinely happy blended family. Exh and I agreed from the get go to put the kids first in all situations and dh has a similar agreement with his ex. I get on well with my step kids and our kids get on well together and we have a lot of laughter. The teenagers are not backwards in coming forwards, if they weren't happy there is no way they would lie to spare our feelings, I don't think many teenagers would. I think it feel disproportionate on here because those who are struggling will ask for help, we're happy to I don't tend to post too much on the blended family posts.

Exactly. My DSS sees him mum once a month out of the house but won't stay at his mum's because he dislikes her partner. He's been very open and honest with her about his feelings on it and the reasons he doesn't want to live with her. Similarly we had spells where he didn't want to live with us and he told my DH he was just happier at his mum's. This was before she had a partner. Him not liking our house was nothing to do with a step-parent living there is was because DH imposed more rules and boundaries. He didn't get away with as much as ours as he did at his mum's. I know not all kids will feel about to be honest with their parents though but generally teenagers have a nack for being brutally honest.

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:42

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 19/10/2024 09:31

Yes thank you. Saved me a reply!

Fair enough, that’s not how it reads to me but I understand what you mean now

Loadsapandas · 19/10/2024 09:39

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:02

There’s an elephant in the room here that I mentioned earlier and has not been acknowledged.

For many of the young people I see who are struggling with mental health, aside from abuse which is obviously a different issue, for many it’s not the blended family that’s an issue, it’s that parents relationships ended in the first place. That’s what’s been most impactful, the sense of loss, abandonment, not being wanted or good enough. Of course as adults we see this very differently but the feelings of fear, anxiety and uncertainty stay with some people into adulthood.

I think the above is true but I imagine the sense of loss, abandonment, not being good enough or wanted is amplified in a blended family.

The DSC may hear or sense they don’t ‘fit’ anywhere, having to mould yourself to different standards every few days/weeks cannot be easy.

They may have an adult making it clear their presence isn’t wanted, maybe time spent with their parent always has to be shared with someone else’s child . Or that parent often leaves them with a resentful adult.

Maybe they have to witness the ‘together’ family and get a sense of loss that they shift in/out.

I think blended families work where theres a decent amount of compassion for how it affects the DSC.

jabbaf · 19/10/2024 09:35

my sister had an affair, moved out and moved in with the new partner within a few weeks. She'd been having the affair for over a year but their kids had only just realised about it. So overnight mum and dad were separated and they were living with a new man at weekends when they hired hotels/cottages, until they got a place together. Her eldest has been in therapy ever since and my sister just thinks they should be grateful because stepdad is loaded.

jeaux90 · 19/10/2024 09:34

Zen · 19/10/2024 08:48

I’m someone who made the decision not to blend families. I’ve been in a committed relationship but living apart for over 6 years. We have 2 children each, they were between 11-16 when we met, youngest is now 18. Their ages made blending more difficult, we never considered it, moving high school and sharing bedrooms would never have been in their best interests. But it also meant that dating was easier as they grew out of needing babysitters. We have good relationships with each other’s children but we’re not really involved, we’ve never had to parent them, we’re just around in lives, I suppose I consider them the same as my friends children. We occasionally go out for a meal or something with all 4 of them although it’s hard to pin them down!
Just offering up the suggestion that it’s possible to have a happy relationship without blending families.

I agree. Similar situation. People rush too quickly into bringing the houses together.

I've been a lone parent 15 years. But been with my partner for 7 years, we still live apart.

We have taken holidays etc together of course and the DC have built a good relationship over that time.

It's only now, his DS is at Uni and mine is going into 6th form next year we are discussing buying a house together.

DC come first.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 19/10/2024 09:31

Anxioustealady · 19/10/2024 09:27

Another direct quote for you "Lots of assumptions but no indication then parents are actively checking in with how their children really feel."

So she's saying parents aren't asking, so how the children feel isn't being fed back to the step parents

Yes thank you. Saved me a reply!

Anxioustealady · 19/10/2024 09:27

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:19

Direct quote that my post was about. Reading the thread now, it’s disturbing to see this is apparently common from step parents. With comments like “Step son / step daughter seems happy”. “He’s asked to move in so seems like a good sign”

Another direct quote for you "Lots of assumptions but no indication then parents are actively checking in with how their children really feel."

So she's saying parents aren't asking, so how the children feel isn't being fed back to the step parents

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:19

Anxioustealady · 19/10/2024 09:16

She said parents asking.

Direct quote that my post was about. Reading the thread now, it’s disturbing to see this is apparently common from step parents. With comments like “Step son / step daughter seems happy”. “He’s asked to move in so seems like a good sign”

Anxioustealady · 19/10/2024 09:16

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:06

Interesting that you’re saying it’s common from step parents. I wonder why you’re focussing on step parents rather than biological parents.

Not that I think step parents get a free pass at all, but I’m wondering why you have focussed on them asking you and not your mum or dad.

She said parents asking.

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:06

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 19/10/2024 09:00

I bounced between my mum and dad’s house as a teenager because I was unhappy. Firstly to my dad’s house because I was so unhappy following my step dad moving in. I didn’t find the attention I was seeking at my dad’s as he was preoccupied with evening classes and dating and shortly afterwards moved his girlfriend and her children in. This woman was not only completely disinterested in me and my sisters needs but appeared to feel threatened by me and my older sister, in terms of competing for me dad’s attention, and the focus was on her children’s interests. so I returned to my mums house, where she had a new baby who I was expected to help care for. My parents separation and moving in / creation of new family units all happened within 2 years.

Working through it in therapy now my therapist is kindly saying she is astounded that at no point during all of this were my parents ever asking me how I felt / Asking me basic questions like “why do you want to move back to your mum/dad?”, checking how I felt, and certainly not making any attempt to adjust their decisions to provide a stable home environment for me. There was no curiosity about the impact of their choices on me.

Reading the thread now, it’s disturbing to see this is apparently common from step parents. With comments like “Step son / step daughter seems happy”. “He’s asked to move in so seems like a good sign”. Lots of assumptions but no indication then parents are actively checking in with how their children really feel.

Interesting that you’re saying it’s common from step parents. I wonder why you’re focussing on step parents rather than biological parents.

Not that I think step parents get a free pass at all, but I’m wondering why you have focussed on them asking you and not your mum or dad.

ineedsun · 19/10/2024 09:02

There’s an elephant in the room here that I mentioned earlier and has not been acknowledged.

For many of the young people I see who are struggling with mental health, aside from abuse which is obviously a different issue, for many it’s not the blended family that’s an issue, it’s that parents relationships ended in the first place. That’s what’s been most impactful, the sense of loss, abandonment, not being wanted or good enough. Of course as adults we see this very differently but the feelings of fear, anxiety and uncertainty stay with some people into adulthood.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 19/10/2024 09:00

Iscrewedupbadly · 19/10/2024 08:37

Yes it's a good sign - he knows he has somewhere else to go where he feels safe and heard and can step away from the unhappiness of his other home

I bounced between my mum and dad’s house as a teenager because I was unhappy. Firstly to my dad’s house because I was so unhappy following my step dad moving in. I didn’t find the attention I was seeking at my dad’s as he was preoccupied with evening classes and dating and shortly afterwards moved his girlfriend and her children in. This woman was not only completely disinterested in me and my sisters needs but appeared to feel threatened by me and my older sister, in terms of competing for me dad’s attention, and the focus was on her children’s interests. so I returned to my mums house, where she had a new baby who I was expected to help care for. My parents separation and moving in / creation of new family units all happened within 2 years.

Working through it in therapy now my therapist is kindly saying she is astounded that at no point during all of this were my parents ever asking me how I felt / Asking me basic questions like “why do you want to move back to your mum/dad?”, checking how I felt, and certainly not making any attempt to adjust their decisions to provide a stable home environment for me. There was no curiosity about the impact of their choices on me.

Reading the thread now, it’s disturbing to see this is apparently common from step parents. With comments like “Step son / step daughter seems happy”. “He’s asked to move in so seems like a good sign”. Lots of assumptions but no indication then parents are actively checking in with how their children really feel.

Zen · 19/10/2024 08:51

And to add, my ex has never been involved and his children have gradually moved away from having contact with their mum and live with him full time, there’s never been 50/50 for either. Not sure if that makes it easier or harder.