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To think MN is horrible about blended families?

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kungfullama · 18/10/2024 11:56

I've seen so many posts recently that just leads to think MN sees blended families as second class somehow.

Threads where ex wives are behaving horribly and withholding contact but are being defended because 'they were left' so somehow have the right to pass their bitterness onto their kids.

Posters screaming LTB at the slightest bit of conflict between dc and stepparents as if conflict doesn't ever occur in traditional families too.

Insinuating that new partners are just flash in the pan 'boyfriends' even when the relationship is long term or they're married.

Blended families can be complicated and the dynamics might be slightly different. But I know for a fact my dc lives are so much better with their bio parents apart and made considerably richer with the involvement of their two loving stepparents. I don't see us as being lesser than a traditional family. Not sure why others do.

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Ramblomatic · 18/10/2024 14:55

kungfullama · 18/10/2024 11:56

I've seen so many posts recently that just leads to think MN sees blended families as second class somehow.

Threads where ex wives are behaving horribly and withholding contact but are being defended because 'they were left' so somehow have the right to pass their bitterness onto their kids.

Posters screaming LTB at the slightest bit of conflict between dc and stepparents as if conflict doesn't ever occur in traditional families too.

Insinuating that new partners are just flash in the pan 'boyfriends' even when the relationship is long term or they're married.

Blended families can be complicated and the dynamics might be slightly different. But I know for a fact my dc lives are so much better with their bio parents apart and made considerably richer with the involvement of their two loving stepparents. I don't see us as being lesser than a traditional family. Not sure why others do.

Posters screaming LTB at the slightest bit of conflict between dc and stepparents

The first rule of MumsNet Club is "You must LTB"

Partner cheated? LTB

Partner left some dirty washing in the sink? LTB

Partner walked past a member of the opposite sex on a busy high street and didn't immediately cross the street screaming "I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP!! I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP AND I LOVE HER!!!"? LTB

viques · 18/10/2024 14:55

The problem with blended families is that many of them aren’t blended, they still have huge, indigestible lumps in them.

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 14:54

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:49

What does having children of your own change, in terms of looking back? Genuine question.

For me it made it even more unbelievable that they could treat their own child so badly. I would never make my children feel uncomfortable in their own home, having to put up with a stranger moving in. Having to share their father with other children.

It puts how spectacularly selfish the decision to blend really is, for most families.

There are of course exceptions.

Well, firstly I don't think anyone should be moving 'strangers' in. And secondly, plenty of children share their father with other children.

There's a high level of judgement and 'holier than thou' in your post, it's pretty unpleasant.

Beezknees · 18/10/2024 14:54

rainydays03 · 18/10/2024 14:26

You can, but I don’t see how that can be successful. If you have small children and no childcare then you’re seeing a partner once a month potentially - what would be the point?
Surely if you’ve found a decent partner there would be no issues in blending the family once the time is right. The only way blended families don’t work is if
you have someone who isnt willing to put their all into making your families work.

It's never done with the child's best interests at heart though, it's done because the adults want it.

I'm a lone parent and I'll stay single rather than force a step parent on my DS.

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:52

crumblingschools · 18/10/2024 14:51

@Simonjt I'm adopted and I don't think of myself living in a blended family. I see a blended family with stepparents as a very different scenario to be adopted.

I remember a thread from a few years ago, and the OP was wondering what was wrong with her DD who was about 11. Her behaviour and emotions were causing concern and she was very different from when she was younger. Now obviously age might have had some bearing but it also turned out that the OP had divorced the DD's father. The DD also had a younger sister. Both parents then got remarried. The new partners also had children, and then the mum and dad had children with their respective new partners. So the DD had gone from living with her parents with her younger sibling, to living between 2 houses and gaining about 10 siblings. And the OP needed it pointing out on the thread that this might have impacted her DD adversely. In the OP's eyes they were just one big happy blended family, it had really not occurred to her that her DD might not be as happy as the OP was.

Jesus Christ the ignorance of that poster!

ByMerryKoala · 18/10/2024 14:51

Autumn38 · 18/10/2024 14:47

I think the problem comes from those step parents who are happy to move in with their new partners (and their children) but don’t think that they should be expected to ‘feel the same’ or to treat their step kids in the same way as their own kids etc.

fine - if you can genuinely love the children you move in with (or who live with you part of the time), then you are likely to be a great person step parent. If the most you can muster is a vague positive regard, then frankly, get out of their space.

I lived with housemates/partners of friends for most of my twenties. There is nothing worse than living in a house with someone you know doesn’t really like you that much. It’s miserable. And I was an adult, and these weren’t people who were supposed to care about me.

Yup, I had a friend who blended her family. She took on his children and she cared for them deeply. She looked after them as her own and they were incredibly well bonded.

So when he was shagging about a year later and took his children to set up shop with another woman it was traumatic for everyone, bar him. He just rolled on by.

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 14:51

MySereneDeer · 18/10/2024 14:46

My biological parents were violent to each other and violent and neglectful to me and my siblings. However, the absolute worst, most emotionally damaging thing to happen to me in my childhood was not their abuse or their divorce. It was my mother moving her boyfriend in with us, then marrying him and having another daughter. I loved my little sister, but I wish with all my heart my mother had never started another family, especially while I was starting my teens and forced to live in the house with a new child who was now the complete focus of both of the "parents" in the household. It completely changed my mother's relationship with her existing children as she suddenly and drastically shifted her focus away from us right as we were becoming adults. My mother would say that she still did what she had to for us, and she would say that it was great for us having a father figure and more financially stable household, because that's what she wanted to be true.

It absolutely was not good in any way for me or my full siblings. I have never and would never say this to my mother or, of course, my half sibling, because what would be the point? She was self-absorbed enough to conflate her happiness with that of the "family" and each of the children she had already brought into the world. She would be too self-absorbed to take in this information which would be at odds with the narrative she created about her actions. And her self-absorption meant her children all learned that it was easier to protect her feelings than speak up for our own. That continues until this day.

So, she would and does say that our blended family worked, and it absolutely, positively did not, and she will never know that. Possibly some others who are sure the arrangement that benefited them was also great for their children are in the same position, being protected by children who know their mother is too selfish to hear the truth about their experiences.

With all due respect, I think this sounds like a problem with your mother in general. Anyone who was violent and neglectful to you is not going to be capable of attending to your emotional needs or feelings within a blended family.

I am a stepmother and my children have a stepfather. We might not always get it right but we certainly do not delude ourselves that everything is rosy or perfect and the kids just have to get on with it.

crumblingschools · 18/10/2024 14:51

@Simonjt I'm adopted and I don't think of myself living in a blended family. I see a blended family with stepparents as a very different scenario to be adopted.

I remember a thread from a few years ago, and the OP was wondering what was wrong with her DD who was about 11. Her behaviour and emotions were causing concern and she was very different from when she was younger. Now obviously age might have had some bearing but it also turned out that the OP had divorced the DD's father. The DD also had a younger sister. Both parents then got remarried. The new partners also had children, and then the mum and dad had children with their respective new partners. So the DD had gone from living with her parents with her younger sibling, to living between 2 houses and gaining about 10 siblings. And the OP needed it pointing out on the thread that this might have impacted her DD adversely. In the OP's eyes they were just one big happy blended family, it had really not occurred to her that her DD might not be as happy as the OP was.

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:49

Slothsarecool · 18/10/2024 14:45

I can’t believe the negativity spouted here!!

Blended families can be absolutely beautiful, and when they are, they are far far better than any family living in a toxic household with both biological parents.

i do think there is something in the kids meeting eachother when young though. I think is far easier to integrate then, rather than introducing older children.

I remarried and we first introduced the kids when they were 1,5 and 7 and I can honestly say everyone is very happy and loves eachother very much. Of course there are moments, as in all families, but I can say without doubt, for us it works and the kids lives are far better than they would have been like should I have stayed with their father or been on my own.

Are your parents separated? Do you have step-parents?

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:49

What does having children of your own change, in terms of looking back? Genuine question.

For me it made it even more unbelievable that they could treat their own child so badly. I would never make my children feel uncomfortable in their own home, having to put up with a stranger moving in. Having to share their father with other children.

It puts how spectacularly selfish the decision to blend really is, for most families.

There are of course exceptions.

Autumn38 · 18/10/2024 14:47

I think the problem comes from those step parents who are happy to move in with their new partners (and their children) but don’t think that they should be expected to ‘feel the same’ or to treat their step kids in the same way as their own kids etc.

fine - if you can genuinely love the children you move in with (or who live with you part of the time), then you are likely to be a great person step parent. If the most you can muster is a vague positive regard, then frankly, get out of their space.

I lived with housemates/partners of friends for most of my twenties. There is nothing worse than living in a house with someone you know doesn’t really like you that much. It’s miserable. And I was an adult, and these weren’t people who were supposed to care about me.

southwestmum88 · 18/10/2024 14:47

I had an extremely traumatic time after my parents split and they both moved their new partners into their homes. It was not my parents splitting that did the damage, it was having to adjust to near strangers moving into the homes where I was supposed to feel safe. My brother developed extremely poor mental health as a young adult and he points to this time in our lives to be the place where it started. I am always glad when I read parents on mumsnet talk about their determination to put their children ahead of their need for a partner. My parents were determined to tell anyone who would listen how happy we were with the new arrangements, they were just trying to project what they wanted to be true.

Toddlertantrums222 · 18/10/2024 14:46

Please could someone enlighten me… is a blended family when you mix two parents (who are in a relationship) with each separate children that they had before the relationship.

or is it still blended if say single mum meets man who has no kids & then they have a child together and live with the woman’s pre existing children. Are they both blended families or is it just the first one? And for those saying it’s bad, which is the least bad in your opinion and why?
(just curious)

MySereneDeer · 18/10/2024 14:46

My biological parents were violent to each other and violent and neglectful to me and my siblings. However, the absolute worst, most emotionally damaging thing to happen to me in my childhood was not their abuse or their divorce. It was my mother moving her boyfriend in with us, then marrying him and having another daughter. I loved my little sister, but I wish with all my heart my mother had never started another family, especially while I was starting my teens and forced to live in the house with a new child who was now the complete focus of both of the "parents" in the household. It completely changed my mother's relationship with her existing children as she suddenly and drastically shifted her focus away from us right as we were becoming adults. My mother would say that she still did what she had to for us, and she would say that it was great for us having a father figure and more financially stable household, because that's what she wanted to be true.

It absolutely was not good in any way for me or my full siblings. I have never and would never say this to my mother or, of course, my half sibling, because what would be the point? She was self-absorbed enough to conflate her happiness with that of the "family" and each of the children she had already brought into the world. She would be too self-absorbed to take in this information which would be at odds with the narrative she created about her actions. And her self-absorption meant her children all learned that it was easier to protect her feelings than speak up for our own. That continues until this day.

So, she would and does say that our blended family worked, and it absolutely, positively did not, and she will never know that. Possibly some others who are sure the arrangement that benefited them was also great for their children are in the same position, being protected by children who know their mother is too selfish to hear the truth about their experiences.

betterangels · 18/10/2024 14:46

SereneFish · 18/10/2024 12:26

Please tell me how blended families aren't in the best interests of children? When they are successful and happy and everyone gets along.

Because they nearly always AREN'T happy. They just say they are because they know that's what their actual parent wants to hear.

Is that not a better scenario than having two bio parents together who can't stand each other? But actually co parent well?

No, it's just as bad as living with two parents in an unhealthy relationship.

I don't need to ask my children how they feel in their 20s. I see them everyday and I see what their stepparents do for them to ensure they are happy and loved.

So strange that nearly all children who grew up in "blended" families (Frankenstein families would be more accurate - several individuals hastily stitched together by someone only thinking of themselves) say that it was miserable, but their parents would say they were happy.

Do you really believe that once a relationship breaks down both parents should stay single forever? If that were the case my kids would have missed out on a hell of a lot.

No, date as many people as you like. Just don't force your children to live with them.

Couldn't agree more.

Slothsarecool · 18/10/2024 14:45

I can’t believe the negativity spouted here!!

Blended families can be absolutely beautiful, and when they are, they are far far better than any family living in a toxic household with both biological parents.

i do think there is something in the kids meeting eachother when young though. I think is far easier to integrate then, rather than introducing older children.

I remarried and we first introduced the kids when they were 1,5 and 7 and I can honestly say everyone is very happy and loves eachother very much. Of course there are moments, as in all families, but I can say without doubt, for us it works and the kids lives are far better than they would have been like should I have stayed with their father or been on my own.

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 14:45

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:39

How old are the children?

They won't have fully formed opinions on the situation until they look back with adult eyes. It can take them having children of their own to really see it too.

I think it's impossible to form a full judgement. You can't re-run three versions of a childhood for the same person - one in which they stayed in their nuclear family, one where they grew up with a single parent and one where they were in a blended family.

It's so easy to scapegoat the notion of the blended family. We don't know if the alternatives would have been any better... or worse.

I know people who call their step parents 'mum' or 'dad' and have a better relationship with one of them than with the bio parent. I also know people who hated being in a blended family. I find it difficult to draw a conclusion that blended families are a 'bad thing'. It surely depends on the blended family and the individuals involved.

What does having children of your own change, in terms of looking back? Genuine question.

NewDogOwner · 18/10/2024 14:43

The biggest threat to any child is an unrelated adult living in their home. I saw a statistic the other day from maybe Jordan Peterson (or someone similar) saying that the risk of child abuse goes up a 100 fold when an unrelated adult moves into the home.

Andarna · 18/10/2024 14:43

I've seen more failures than successes. It depends onthe parents mostly. Do they move the new family in because they the parents want to live together, or did the children come to love the stepfamily in the years before moving in together?

You can have a relationship without moving in together. Plenty of couples live apart until the children have become adults.

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:43

Absolutely pisses me off that children from blended families are largely ignored! Op is defensive and determined that she's doing the right thing.

AbsoluteTwaddle · 18/10/2024 14:42

I know someone who moved her new boyfriend in and that decision drove her daughter out of her childhood home and to move in with her dad. I couldn't blame her. Imagine being a teenage girl, going through so much stuff and then you are forced to live with a man you are not related to.

OhTediosity · 18/10/2024 14:42

Combattingthemoaners · 18/10/2024 14:38

I know several blended families who are very happy. They’re civilised adults who work as a team to support the children.

I've now known enough families of all descriptions to understand that, really, the only people to judge whether a family is genuinely happy are the people within it - and even then, perspectives will vary. I don't think I could confidently make a judgement that almost any of the families I know, whether nuclear or blended, are truly happy. Whether or not they are functional, perhaps, but not whether they are happy. Interesting that so many pp seem confident in assessing this.

UpstartCrows · 18/10/2024 14:42

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 18/10/2024 14:18

What are you looking for OP? I think you’re being a bit dismissive and cruel. Lots of people have bad experiences with blended families. But because yours is going well other people aren’t allowed to talk about their negative experiences? This is what they call toxic positivity. You’re not leaving any space for other people’s feelings and experiences when they’re not as positive as you think they should be.

This is the best post on the thread so far.

My dad would say we were a successful blended family. As a child I would have agreed with anything if it had made life easier. As a now 40 something woman I've felt able to challenge and push back against my toxic step mother. She's been in my life for 30+ years and controlled access to my dad, who has hugely enabled the situation. Its been far from healthy or positive.

Despite being a step mum myself and having a step mum and a step dad, I'd say in my own experience only a very tiny proportion of blended families are actually healthy psychologically for all members. Most are deluding themselves. When the children are grown and independent of the situation they will be able to find their voice to challenge the IG fantasy family picture their parents have created.

ZoeCM · 18/10/2024 14:41

One thing that makes me want to bang my head against the wall:

When a woman post on MN that her child has asked her not to move her new partner in, the answer is always "Tell them you don't care, he's moving in and that's that, you can't let a child run your life."

Then you get posters who insist that their children are completely happy to have a stepfather and dismiss anyone who warns them that those children may say otherwise when they grow up.

How the hell do people not make the connection? Children aren't telling their mothers how unhappy they are because their mothers have already outright told them they don't care! They've said point-blank that having a boyfriend/husband is more important to them to their own children's feelings, well-being, and even safety.

QuintessentialDragon · 18/10/2024 14:40

Because they don't work. It's like putting a square peg in a round hole. Someone will always feel unsatisfied, left out, irritated, etc. There are exceptions, obv, but that's all they are. IMO.

I'm a single mother, divorced when daughter was 3, she's 12 now. I haven't lived with another man since the divorce and not planning to. At least until she grows up and moves out. Neither she, nor me need the aggro and drama.

I do gave a partner, but we don't live together and don't encroach on each others' space. Home is for relaxation, it's a safe space where you can rest, recharge, be yourself, slob around, let go. I fully understand my DD not wanting some dude who is not her family member in her home, I wouldn't either if I'd be her.

I couldn't never love someone's children as my own, and the idlyl would wear extremely thin extremely quickly, should they be 'difficult'. And I'd always side with my own child over my partner/his child(ren). And frankly, I really couldn't be arsed playing families with children who are not mine. So all that said, I cannot expect a man think otherwise, therefore no 'blended families' for us.

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