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To think MN is horrible about blended families?

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kungfullama · 18/10/2024 11:56

I've seen so many posts recently that just leads to think MN sees blended families as second class somehow.

Threads where ex wives are behaving horribly and withholding contact but are being defended because 'they were left' so somehow have the right to pass their bitterness onto their kids.

Posters screaming LTB at the slightest bit of conflict between dc and stepparents as if conflict doesn't ever occur in traditional families too.

Insinuating that new partners are just flash in the pan 'boyfriends' even when the relationship is long term or they're married.

Blended families can be complicated and the dynamics might be slightly different. But I know for a fact my dc lives are so much better with their bio parents apart and made considerably richer with the involvement of their two loving stepparents. I don't see us as being lesser than a traditional family. Not sure why others do.

OP posts:
Wellingtonspie · 18/10/2024 16:24

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 15:51

It's incredibly short sighted of people to said well I didn't like having a step parent therefore it's ALWAYS BAD. It's almost like nobody can ever have a different experience.

But when the majority of adult step children tell you it was shit and that their parent would say it was good it shows still that the majority it was shit and that the parent is blinkered into what they thought their child thought.

In real I don’t know a single step child who feels happy about their childhood. I don’t know a single step child who wants their own child to have a step parent or half/step siblings and there where plently of us step children at school in fact it was more rare not to be in a step family and we all hated it.

But if people want to believe truly that adult step children that hates it are the minority then keep on being blinkered.

Anxioustealady · 18/10/2024 16:22

TheLostArt · 18/10/2024 15:52

My stepfather entered my life when I was 6 and is still married to my mother. Unhappily. I am lucky enough to have grown up both from a broken home, with an absent father and yet still in a house where my parental figures constantly fought. He's been a constant figure, a good grandfather, but I grew up aware I lived in someone else's house, always on sufferance, that I had to earn my place there. There's a lack of confidence, of being comfortable in your own skin, of identity I often see in adults who were in blended families as kids, that isn't as common as those who grew up with both parents.
My mother was a terrible stepmother too, still is.
My OH also grew up blended. Lived with a stepfather, step siblings, half siblings. barely saw his actual father who had two more children with his next wife. The one non negotiable for us when we decided to have children was that we would make the marriage work while they were at home, no matter what, if humanly possible. It's been tough, almost impossible at times, but we kept going. That's not a criticism of anyone who makes different decisions but I will always be shaped by my childhood, so will my OH, as much as we work hard to overcome it and I didn't want that legacy for my children.

This is a good point. It's awful for children to feel like they don't belong anywhere. I used to feel like a burden and a problem wherever I went.

I have also agreed with my husband once we have children that's it, I absolutely would not repeat my childhood for my own children

Blanketpolicy · 18/10/2024 16:16

People will speak from their experience. I am older and close to a few older kids or young adults who grew up in blended families, and know colleagues who were raised in a blended family.

IME nearly every one of the kids who came from previous relationships find the whole thing difficult and when they share or look for support and open up about it you hear they have an underlying feeling of never fully belonging or feeling good enough, lowest priority, most notably when there are younger half siblings, and even when they care deeply for their parents, step parent(s)/half siblings. Their feeling are palpable when they talk about them and they say things that they are unlikely to ever share with their parents, obviously not wanting to hurt them.

So from my experience which is all I can talk about, blended families can be damaging to existing children.

I am sure it is not the case for all children in blended families, but it is also very common.

peachgreen · 18/10/2024 16:13

I don't think there can really be a hard and fast rule as there are so many variables – the age of the children, whether there's children on both sides, the circumstances behind the separation of the biological family, and, of course, the behaviour of the adults involved.

My DH died when DD was 2. She's 7 now and she has chosen – with no prompting from us – to see DP as her Dad, and there's no doubt in my mind that he enhances her life hugely. But a) she doesn't have her biological Dad around any more, b) she was very young when DP came into her life and c) when I was dating, I was specifically looking for someone I thought would be good for DD and a good fit for our existing family life, and that was, to be honest, my primary consideration, over and above anything – so I didn't date anyone with their own children, and what sealed the deal for me with DP was that he has adopted siblings AND his mum was adopted by her dad after her biological dad died, so he had experience of the complex dynamics.

It is a tricky path to navigate and there are sacrifices involved for everyone. But as a parent, it's your job to ensure that the benefits outweigh the sacrifices, and be honest about when they don't.

IreneGoodnight · 18/10/2024 16:04

Imo a family can't be described as blended unless BOTH partners have children from previous relationships i.e. the children biologically belong to two families.
Half siblings don't create a blend because they belong to only one family.
From OP's description her current family isn't actually blended and she's just being a bit smug.

DaemonMoon · 18/10/2024 16:00

Gogogo12345 · 18/10/2024 15:54

Why was the original family shit? Some people are widowed you know

'Not going to bother caveating with x y z.'

Anxioustealady · 18/10/2024 15:55

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:37

Most of us from blended families are from parents that have parents that never divorced. They have no clue what it's actually like.

Especially as a girl having to live with a new man.

Really good point, most people who have gone through it would not inflict it on their own children

Gogogo12345 · 18/10/2024 15:54

DaemonMoon · 18/10/2024 15:39

I have step everything. No issues.

My thoughts however, for those who are negative are, dont they realise for 'blended' families to exist, the 'original' family was shit too. Not going to bother caveating with x y z.

Why was the original family shit? Some people are widowed you know

Poffy · 18/10/2024 15:54

I have no skin in this game but this thread should be ready by anyone considering putting their children in this position.

MrsJoanDanvers · 18/10/2024 15:52

I’m very happily remarried after divorcing 20 years ago. However, we didn’t get married until our respective children were at university. I looked at the way we both parented and thought no way were we going to set up home together with children-not only the disruption involved, the changing of schools for someone but also I was a ‘stricter’ parent and I could see all the aggravation that would cause (nothing wrong with dh parenting, just different boundaries and style). So we visited, had outings and holidays together but had separate homes where our children could be themselves and have their own space. I’m so glad we did for lots of reasons and the blended families where children are forced together because it makes their parents happy have extra challenges than just living with their parents.

TheLostArt · 18/10/2024 15:52

My stepfather entered my life when I was 6 and is still married to my mother. Unhappily. I am lucky enough to have grown up both from a broken home, with an absent father and yet still in a house where my parental figures constantly fought. He's been a constant figure, a good grandfather, but I grew up aware I lived in someone else's house, always on sufferance, that I had to earn my place there. There's a lack of confidence, of being comfortable in your own skin, of identity I often see in adults who were in blended families as kids, that isn't as common as those who grew up with both parents.
My mother was a terrible stepmother too, still is.
My OH also grew up blended. Lived with a stepfather, step siblings, half siblings. barely saw his actual father who had two more children with his next wife. The one non negotiable for us when we decided to have children was that we would make the marriage work while they were at home, no matter what, if humanly possible. It's been tough, almost impossible at times, but we kept going. That's not a criticism of anyone who makes different decisions but I will always be shaped by my childhood, so will my OH, as much as we work hard to overcome it and I didn't want that legacy for my children.

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 15:51

Anxioustealady · 18/10/2024 15:44

A lot of people commenting here are former step CHILDREN who remember how shit their childhoods were and how it impacted them, but please continue to ignore that fact as ever, and pretend children love having random strangers living with them suddenly. That's definitely more convenient for you

It's incredibly short sighted of people to said well I didn't like having a step parent therefore it's ALWAYS BAD. It's almost like nobody can ever have a different experience.

motheronthedancefloor · 18/10/2024 15:49

I know someone who married young, to someone 5 years younger than her (he was 18 she was 23) and quickly had 2 kids by him. It didn't last.

The two kids now have a half sibling on mums side, 2 half siblings on dads side, and 2 step siblings on dads side. Its very confusing.

Not to mention the mums brother, has 3 kids by 3 women himself. So the whole family is very blended. Too many kids and everyone is all over the place. Kids dont know if they are coming or going.

The eldest boy became a school refuser and suicidal and had to have mental health support. The eldest girl is now nonbinary and also self harms.

Its not good for kids to have so many partners and step/half siblings.

Another woman I know is one of 5 kids to 5 men, so lots of disruption in her life, barely attended school, her mum didn't have enough time for her, her half siblings have been in and out of prison, her current step dad is a convicted drug dealer, multiple nieces and nephews, and now her own DD is a teen mum.

CaneToad · 18/10/2024 15:49

rainydays03 · 18/10/2024 14:58

and that’s great for you but I think that’s being a bit of a martyr, because there’s absolutely no reason at all why the right step parent wouldn’t bring your children joy, happiness and more stability. Not every blended family story is a bad one.

But most are, when you ask the children once they've grown up.

Of all the many people over 30 I've known who lived in blended families in their childhood, only one said it was better in the blended family than with their bio parents and siblings. ONE. Out of at least 40 families over the years.

Of the many adults I know who chose to blend their families (i.e. had children, moved in a partner and partner's children and/or had additional children with new moved in partners) it's almost the reverse. Most of them say their blended families work well, or have challenges but are OK on the whole.

That is not what the children say, when they're away from their parents. My nieces say they haven't had a real home since their parents split 12 years ago. And they do really like their stepmother. Living with step siblings, not so much.

It's fine to split up. It's fine to have a new partner. But if you move your partner in with your children, never kid yourself you're doing that for anything other than completely selfish reasons. It doesn't benefit your children at all.

There's no way I'll move a new partner into my house until my children were ready to move out. A long term non-resident relationship makes much sense.

ineedsun · 18/10/2024 15:48

I think it probably very much depends on the adults in the situation.

My husbands ex wife and her second husband are perfectly nice people but three of their four kids from the first marriage no longer speak to them. I know why my DSD doesn’t talk to them but not the others, I suspect similar reasons though which is that they felt neglected and second best to the new kids. Were often used as babysitters etc

I didn’t have kids when I married DH but we went on to have kids. One of the step kids lived with us for a long time, calls me mum, often comments on our relationship in positive terms, the other comments very positively and asked me to walk them down the aisle.

People on here are often vile about blended families and step mums in particular. But I think you just have to take it with a pinch of salt. As with everything, when someone is vile it’s usually about their own issues and not a reflection on the thing they’re projecting them onto.

EarthSight · 18/10/2024 15:44

SometimesCalmPerson · 18/10/2024 12:03

My mum would have said that my life was better with the addition of a step parent and step siblings too, but she was wrong.

Blended families are very rarely in the best interests of children, they can cause a lot of difficulty and heartache and they often exist because parents put their need for a live in relationship ahead of their children’s needs.

I know some blended families are genuinely happy and successful but it is rare. Usually the parents project the idea that everyone is happy because it suits them to believe that, but in reality the children would rather just live with their biological family.

This - the potential for unhappiness for the children is high.

Either they are forced to live with a step-parent and / or children they never asked to live with, or feel emotionally obliged to do this having witnessed how said their parent is.

Anxioustealady · 18/10/2024 15:44

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 14:02

I'm with you, OP. There are lots of women here confidently proclaiming that blended families are mostly shit. There's also a tone that you're somehow selfish if you have the audacity to seek another relationship while you have kids.

Personally I think there are some women being bitter and insecure - insecure that their husband might one day leave them and want someone else, or their children might one day be close to another woman. Or some women in unhappy marriages but stay in their misery because you know, at least they're not selfish enough to leave and pursue happiness. So they have to proclaim that blended families are the worst possible thing. It gives them someone to look down on, and a sense that that would never happen to them because they are just so sensible and unselfish.

There's a heavy dose of 'well if I was in that position, I wouldn't', when in reality, people often don't know unless they are in that position.

In reality, plenty of 'nuclear' families don't work, and plenty of blended ones do. And vice versa. There's no blanket rule, all people and all families are different. All I hear on here is 'well I knew someone who didn't like growing up in a blended family'. Fair enough. My husband didn't like growing up in a nuclear family where his mum should probably have divorced his alcoholic father, but didn't. We all have our experiences.

Of course, people tend to post on mumsnet when things are going wrong, so by that rule, all blended families are shit, but so are all men, and so are all first marriages.

Edited

A lot of people commenting here are former step CHILDREN who remember how shit their childhoods were and how it impacted them, but please continue to ignore that fact as ever, and pretend children love having random strangers living with them suddenly. That's definitely more convenient for you

Combattingthemoaners · 18/10/2024 15:42

OhTediosity · 18/10/2024 14:42

I've now known enough families of all descriptions to understand that, really, the only people to judge whether a family is genuinely happy are the people within it - and even then, perspectives will vary. I don't think I could confidently make a judgement that almost any of the families I know, whether nuclear or blended, are truly happy. Whether or not they are functional, perhaps, but not whether they are happy. Interesting that so many pp seem confident in assessing this.

Okay then. They seem functional. I can only comment on my experience with them, one being my brother.

DaemonMoon · 18/10/2024 15:39

I have step everything. No issues.

My thoughts however, for those who are negative are, dont they realise for 'blended' families to exist, the 'original' family was shit too. Not going to bother caveating with x y z.

Combattingthemoaners · 18/10/2024 15:39

gonnabeteoubleemma · 18/10/2024 14:39

How old are the children?

They won't have fully formed opinions on the situation until they look back with adult eyes. It can take them having children of their own to really see it too.

They vary. 20s, teenagers and 6 year olds.

Fevertreelover · 18/10/2024 15:37

kungfullama · 18/10/2024 13:11

Would love to see the source of your 90% statistic.

I suppose ours is simpler in that neither my dh or my ex's wife brought children into the relationship although there are now younger half siblings on both sides. But no step siblings. And everyone has their own (decent sized) bedroom.

I wouldn't class it as blended if only there are only children from one partner. That's just a new relationship to me.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 18/10/2024 15:36

I’m sure there are happy blended families out there, but the fact that kids don’t complain does not mean they’re happy.

I agree. No doubt some children are happy in a blended family, but some really are not, and their parents don't always want to hear that because it is very painful. Most parents love their children and want them to be happy, so the thought of making them unhappy is excruciating.

MyFairMintCat · 18/10/2024 15:35

ZoeCM · 18/10/2024 15:23

This isn't just MN, actually - it's spreading to younger age groups. It's called "Dump Him" culture. There are TikTok trends about abitrary challenges you should give your boyfriend - e.g. the "orange peel test" (Google it) - to see if he really cares about you. Basically, what's happening is that society is more media-driven than ever before, because we have easy access to so many TV shows, films, books, etc. Women are increasingly expecting real relationships to be as perfect as fictional ones - and when they inevitably fall short, the advice is to dump your partner. (It's the female counterpart of what's happening with men: men are increasingly expecting their girlfriends to look/act like porn stars.)

There's absolutely nothing with being happily single - it's great when it's what you really want! But the problem is, these women aren't dumping their partners because they want to be single - they're dumping them because they think he's getting in the way of meeting a near-flawless man. Completely normal relationships in which couples occasionally argue and take each other for granted are being reframed as "toxic".

Oh come on, young people have always been a bit silly and self-absorbed. At some point they all grow up and realise what love and life are all about.

Especially after having experienced some real challenges.

Sapphire387 · 18/10/2024 15:32

Beezknees · 18/10/2024 15:26

It's a very difficult balance to strike. Ages of kids probably come into it as well. My mum remarried when I was 14 so at that age I definitely didn't want a "new dad". He didn't want me around either to be fair so my view is skewed and I fucked off to live with my boyfriend when I was 17. To me it seems like far more work than it's worth hovering between trying not to overstep boundaries because after all "you're not my mum/dad" and actually gaining that respect.

I'm sorry it didn't work out well in your teens in terms of 'new dad' or rather not 'new dad'. Definitely such a difficult balance, as you say.

Ours were younger, we've been married a few years now and our eldest is still only 13. I think that has maybe made it a little easier. But no, it's not always easy.

nosmartphone · 18/10/2024 15:30

As someone who works with children, yet to find one child who is happy with their new stepdad/stepmum/stepsiblings relationship. Not one. Even the ones who say they're happy to their Mum's face. Behind your back, that's not the case.

let's be honest here, if you were putting your children first you would stay single until they've grown up and moved out. But for a whole host of reasons (could be financial, could be merely lonliness/sexual desire) they've put their love life first and the children second.

I'm actually currently wincing watching a woman I know who has moved in a man I happen to know (completely coincidental I might add that they know each other now apparently!) . 4 kids I know all now forced together. They don't know I know each family so I'm hearing both sides moaning about the other. Stupid thing was, the woman had a perfectly nice husband (nice but dull granted) and the man had a lovely wife. Both thought the grass was greener. Might be for them. Dertainly isn't for the kids.Both sets of kids just want their own parents back together but they've both having far too much new sex to even notice!