Ghost or be brutally honest?

Unless someone is abusive, dangerous or toxic, ghosting is very cruel and immature. Being brutally honest is also unnecessarily cruel, again unless someone is a nasty piece of work.

A white lie lets them down gently & gets the message across, job done.

Ugh, I'd just tell him I didn't want to see him again. If he asked why, I'd just say, "Come on mate, I've seen your bathroom! If you think we could live together you must be insane!"

Is Beyonce a pizza expert these days as well? No end to her talents.

In 2 minds.... When I met now dh he was living in a dubious house.. He had even more dodgy attire.. Once we binned the sandals and moved in together he got his act together.. Is actually a fab man all round.
Even where it matters......

"It's been interesting getting to know you but but this isn't a relationship I want to pursue any further. All the best."

Never mind the rolling pin.

I'm stuck on the fact she feels chemistry with a man who wears crocs?! 👀😂

She just needs to be grown up and say, 'I won't be seeing you again!' It doesn't make her a bad person. Being ghosted isn't nice.

Not to be a food bore, but the most exclusive pizza place in New York (Lucalis Brooklyn) exclusively uses wine bottles to roll pizza dough. It's good enough for Beyonce....

You're welcome

I feel like I could’ve written this post. I wonder if it’s the same person. It’s not that he doesn’t ever “entertain”, he just never cleans.

What a drama. She just needs to text she doesn't want to take things further and wish him luck in his search.

This!

I wouldn't spell the real reason out for him because a) he'll just try and instigate a back and forth about why your friend is wrong and b) I think it's better that men show their true nature early so that women like your friend can avoid. If he gets wind of the real reason women are running for the hills, he can sneakily present a better self initially and resort to his standard whenever he feels he can get away with it.

Not sure if I should mention that I also use a wine bottle to roll out pizza dough! I just don't use a rolling pin for anything else and it seems silly to buy one for the once per 2 months ish that I'd make pizza.

A rolling pin isn't required for pizza. You stretch it, not roll it. I'm not sure why she's so aerated (unlike the dough after flattening it thoroughly with a wine bottle).

A polite 'thanks but no thanks' is fine. He didn't force her to eat and was wearing casual clothes at home. Perhaps he uses shower gel for everything. This isn't 'too angry to think straight' territory. Have you both had sheltered lives?

I’m stuck on the bit about wanting a rolling pin to make pizza…

So glad it's not just me!

I can't imagine accepting an invite to someone's home where I was expected to cook.

"Thanks for the evening, unfortunately I'm not feeling this and don't want to continue seeing you. Take care."

I’m stuck on the bit about wanting a rolling pin to make pizza…

I don’t understand why she’s angry, wants to ghost him or wants to have a rant. “Not That Into Him” is fine.

Thanks but no thanks, soap-deficient dude.

DID she feel chemistry? Your post suggests no, certainly not by the end of pizza date.
It is possible to actively choose options in life which aren't cruel.
Ghosting unless they've abusive etc is cruel. Saying "omg, you're such a dirty disgusting guy, I heaved with every bite of pizza and as if I'd ever want to examine the numerous skid marks in your seven day old pants" is cruel. "Thanks for the date but I don't see this going anywhere for me" is to the point without being cruel. Leave it to him and his mates to work it out.

She feels chemistry with this man?

Ok, well perhaps she could go with "Our lifestyles are too different" or similar.

But of course as a grown woman she will have told the odd white lie in her life.

If she'd rather go with one of your immature examples than tell a lie, that's up to her.

If she doesn't have to see him again then I'd tell him the truth.

If they run in the same circles then fluff it up with a "Not feeling the chemistry".

I think a vague ‘no thank you’ first is fine and if he pushes for more specific reasons then she should do his next date (and possibly all of his past, present and future acquaintances ) a favour and give him some more specific feedback about how grim it is. No need to be mean / angry just matter of fact.

Just tell him you're not interested in taking it further. It's rude to ghost people when it takes seconds to send a message. You don't need to go into details of why. There clearly is no chemistry if you/ your friend is so angry. So I'd just say that.

Why are the options so mean? Treating people how we would want to be treated is the key.

I don't get it? Does she think he invites women for a third date pizza experience in the hope of getting them in to bed and she's angry about it? Or just angry because she doesn't like his hygiene
Presuming he didn't pressure her into anything and she could have left at any time ie she could have said omg there's no soap in your kitchen I'm not eating anything you make!