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To begrudge her perfect little life

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Sistafromanothermista · 18/10/2024 00:25

I’m struggling to articulate this but I have a friend who I actually really like as a person but can’t help begrudge her life sometimes.

we went to school together and she was a high flying achiever. Type A person who was never in trouble but pushed boundaries if she thought teachers were wrong or there was an injustice etc. She was a workaholic and wanted to focus on her career with no time for boys, alcohol and ‘distractions’ like that.

we lost touch for a few years and got back in touch recently and I feel I don’t know, demoralised maybe, because of how her life has turned out.

when we met up again she told me she’d met someone (I was happy for her because I knew she had been in an abusive relationship for a while) and was happy. She then goes on to show me pictures of his proposal (think movie style every girl’s dream rose petals and swan towels) and says they’ve booked their wedding. Again all good.

she THEN proceeds to tell me shes 16 weeks pregnant and her and her fiancée had bought a house. I without thinking asked how can you afford all this…of course miss workaholic accelerated in her finance role.

since we’ve gotten closer she’s had her wedding and just so happened that her husband has made friends with my friends through a hobby. They all went out recently (as in all the men), including my own boyfriend. They went to a more sleazy part of town and I (and this is so horrible I know) asked specifically about my friends husband to see if he’d been upto anything (a couple of the other men had). Apparently her husband talked about her the whole night, didn’t drink alcohol and went home early because he missed her.

just tonight she text me to tell me she’s expecting another baby and how she would love to meet for lunch. She’s a lovely woman and she has a heart of gold and she should obviously be so proud of herself but for fuck sake I just feel like I can’t catch a break around her sometimes. Aibu?

edited to say: she’s stunning by the way. She was always attractive in school but when I saw her again she looked like a real elegant type of stunning. I’m not bad myself but again I just feel a bit bleugh when I’m with her.

OP posts:
mummytrex · 18/10/2024 13:14

You're not her friend. I thin you need to back away. Keep it polite when you see her, but don't foster a fake/false friendship with her. It isn't fair to her.

Lovelylilylane · 18/10/2024 13:13

I hope she reads this and ditches you. You’re not a friend.

listsandbudgets · 18/10/2024 13:11

SilverChampagne · 18/10/2024 00:30

What does she have that isn’t achievable for you, apart from her career that she’s obviously worked bloody hard for?
Is your relationship lacking by comparison?

That's insensitive. At no point does the OP say she has children of her own - that's not so easiliy achievable for everyone you know Sad

I've no idea if the OP has children or not by the way

PosiePetal · 18/10/2024 13:07

I think her life sounds quite normal. She is obviously fortunate to have met someone that she’s really compatible with and found that kind of lovely love. Not everyone finds that when they're young. Sounds like she’s made sensible decisions from a young age, maybe it’s more that you find irritating rather than actual jealousy?

Angelil · 18/10/2024 13:03

OMG how dare someone work hard and actually do well out of it 🙄 This anti-intellectualism and anti-meritocratic attitude is precisely what made me leave Britain all those years ago.

Namerequired · 18/10/2024 13:02

With friends like you…

Breadcat24 · 18/10/2024 12:56

I think it would be good for you to think about the wins and good things in your own life.
Family, home, holiday? positive experiences
Enjoy your successes
do not fixate on someone else - you have no idea about what is really in their life

ChiffandBipper · 18/10/2024 12:55

Work on yourself. If you are unhappy with your lot in life, work out what you want to be different and then make steps towards changing. Retrain, travel, reconnect with your partner or start afresh. Whatever she has going on in her relationships, family life, career, marriage etc won't change a jot in your life.

Kbroughton · 18/10/2024 12:54

SilverChampagne · 18/10/2024 12:41

It may not have even happened. He probably just left earlier than the others, and op’s little gossip of a dh put his own mean spin on it.
They seem to be well matched.

Or maybe he left because he didnt like being in a lap dancing club. Not all men do actually like participating in the exploitation of women in this way.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 18/10/2024 12:53

I find it concerning that you were digging for information on the fiancé in the hope he was a dickhead. You aren’t her friend.

Also what’s stopping you from working harder?

independencefreedom · 18/10/2024 12:49

guccibag · 18/10/2024 12:35

Equally, you can ALWAYS find someone who has a worse life than you. The fact you even have access to the internet is a privilege many dont have.

Therefore, the argument that some people have it better is a bit pointless- I suspect there are people jealous of our lives in this thread because they have it worse somewhere in the world. Bearing that in mind, isnt it better to show gratitude for what we do have rather than constantly whining about what we dont?

Completely this. I have no clue if anyone else thinks I've a great life.

But I'm alive, fairly healthy, am loved and love, have a stable housing situation, live in a peaceful country and feel that I've meaning in my life in terms of a creative outlet, a dedication to learning and being able to feel that I can contribute. I had an unhappy childhood and I am so grateful that I've been able to overcome patterns of violence and abuse and not replicate them. I haven't always been strategic or smart career-wise but I've ploughed my own furrow and thankfully fell in love with a kind and supportive partner who I've made a life with.

Swans, rose petals, cruises, mansions - who cares really? They're just stuff. It would be nice to have less of the mundane hassles of life to deal with, to have a bigger house, maybe not have to think too much about budgeting for holidays, but tbh if the fundamentals are pretty sound I do think everyone should count their blessings when they can.

SilverChampagne · 18/10/2024 12:41

Dontlletmedownbruce · 18/10/2024 12:38

I would hate if my DH arrived home early from.his night out because he missed me. Maybe she missed him too, fair enough but I would hate that type of co dependant relationship and it's something i would be glad I don't have rather than envy.

I have suffered with jealousy but there is a big difference between feeling shit about yourself when you are with someone and wishing ill on them. I think you are very bad minded OP.

It may not have even happened. He probably just left earlier than the others, and op’s little gossip of a dh put his own mean spin on it.
They seem to be well matched.

bitsalty · 18/10/2024 12:41

Sistafromanothermista · 18/10/2024 07:59

Wow this really blew up. Reading back I have come across really bitchy. I think it’s the fact she was one person when I knew her and now she seems to be able to do it all: loving husband, lovely kid, great career, keeps herself looking well. I don’t begrudge her for being happy it just makes me feel shit being around her sometimes. I do think the husband one is a big one. Like I love my boyfriend and he loves me but I wouldn’t leave a night out because I missed him or vice versa.

Re your last point about her husband leaving the night out, I wouldn't do that either and it would annoy me if friends bailed for that reason.

I wonder if he felt uncomfortable about where they were or the behaviour and didn't want to be part of it. My husband wouldn't hang out with people cheating or going to strip clubs or whatever.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 18/10/2024 12:38

Sistafromanothermista · 18/10/2024 07:59

Wow this really blew up. Reading back I have come across really bitchy. I think it’s the fact she was one person when I knew her and now she seems to be able to do it all: loving husband, lovely kid, great career, keeps herself looking well. I don’t begrudge her for being happy it just makes me feel shit being around her sometimes. I do think the husband one is a big one. Like I love my boyfriend and he loves me but I wouldn’t leave a night out because I missed him or vice versa.

I would hate if my DH arrived home early from.his night out because he missed me. Maybe she missed him too, fair enough but I would hate that type of co dependant relationship and it's something i would be glad I don't have rather than envy.

I have suffered with jealousy but there is a big difference between feeling shit about yourself when you are with someone and wishing ill on them. I think you are very bad minded OP.

Mumistiredzzzz · 18/10/2024 12:38

mightymam · 18/10/2024 00:30

Urgh, she needs to distance herself from you, the poor woman. You're giving off some really mean girl vibes.

This. You sound bitterly jealous. Her life didn't just turn out like this, she's worked hard for what she has, it doesn't sound like it all landed it her lap.

Applemayjune · 18/10/2024 12:38

MyFairMintCat · 18/10/2024 12:29

We're not talking about 'suffering' though. I mean, even the happiest person in the world has had diarrhea at some point. And most people have had at least one romantic breakup.
That's all normal.
But I'm talking about major traumatic events that change the course of your life.
When you know someone well, you certainly know about any of these. I don't need to know 'every single thing' just the big things.

I focused on material wealth because that was your example with you friend. But smooth sailing means having everything. No health issues (mental or physical), no abuse, blah blah you don't need me to list every single one of them so you?

As @Crushed23 said some people have great lives. If you always need a justification you can't claim to be 'never jealous'. But hey, do what works for you to manage your own feelings. I'm just pointing out the logic

A genuine lack of jealousy means not caring. Someone else situation is an objective fact. It is what it is. You don't need find some philosophical suffering to justify them having the good stuff. They just do. That's all.

Right I'm trying to think of someone I know who has a great life, and as far as I know, hasn't had many problems
.

My best friend in primary school was much much richer than me. She had two parents. She was rich. Her dad owned a building company and was a property developer. He owned whole estates of houses.

My dad walked out on my family, didn't pay maintenece and didn't see us. I was poor.

Was I ever jealous of her. No I never was. It was circumstances beyond our control. It wasn't her fault that my dad had walked out.pm my familt

I lived in much worse circumstances than her , and I was never once jealous of her. She was kind to me, and we are friends to this day.

guccibag · 18/10/2024 12:35

Crushed23 · 18/10/2024 12:19

@MyFairMintCat That's not true. I know quite a few people who have just had a smooth sailing life. Of course, they have to work hard etc like everyone else. But they don't have a tragic backstory like your friend. They were just born into financially comfortable families, did what was expected, married someone similar and reaped the rewards.

Same. I know plenty of people where there is no 'catch' to their relatively idyllic lives. I am close enough to them to know that their life is and always has been smooth sailing, they have every privilege under the sun, and they live an instagram-worthy life without - in almost all cases - showcasing any of it on instagram. Some people just have great lives.

Equally, you can ALWAYS find someone who has a worse life than you. The fact you even have access to the internet is a privilege many dont have.

Therefore, the argument that some people have it better is a bit pointless- I suspect there are people jealous of our lives in this thread because they have it worse somewhere in the world. Bearing that in mind, isnt it better to show gratitude for what we do have rather than constantly whining about what we dont?

Applemayjune · 18/10/2024 12:32

MyFairMintCat · 18/10/2024 12:29

We're not talking about 'suffering' though. I mean, even the happiest person in the world has had diarrhea at some point. And most people have had at least one romantic breakup.
That's all normal.
But I'm talking about major traumatic events that change the course of your life.
When you know someone well, you certainly know about any of these. I don't need to know 'every single thing' just the big things.

I focused on material wealth because that was your example with you friend. But smooth sailing means having everything. No health issues (mental or physical), no abuse, blah blah you don't need me to list every single one of them so you?

As @Crushed23 said some people have great lives. If you always need a justification you can't claim to be 'never jealous'. But hey, do what works for you to manage your own feelings. I'm just pointing out the logic

A genuine lack of jealousy means not caring. Someone else situation is an objective fact. It is what it is. You don't need find some philosophical suffering to justify them having the good stuff. They just do. That's all.

You're not making sense.

You said I need a justification not to be jealous.

I said that I'm not jealous of people as most people go through suffering. That is part of being human. I have empathy for everyone.

I also said that I'm not jealous of people with totally perfect lives, who have never suffered either. I said that I'm glad that they're happy.

Yet, you are still calling me jealous.

You're not making sense

MyFairMintCat · 18/10/2024 12:29

We're not talking about 'suffering' though. I mean, even the happiest person in the world has had diarrhea at some point. And most people have had at least one romantic breakup.
That's all normal.
But I'm talking about major traumatic events that change the course of your life.
When you know someone well, you certainly know about any of these. I don't need to know 'every single thing' just the big things.

I focused on material wealth because that was your example with you friend. But smooth sailing means having everything. No health issues (mental or physical), no abuse, blah blah you don't need me to list every single one of them so you?

As @Crushed23 said some people have great lives. If you always need a justification you can't claim to be 'never jealous'. But hey, do what works for you to manage your own feelings. I'm just pointing out the logic

A genuine lack of jealousy means not caring. Someone else situation is an objective fact. It is what it is. You don't need find some philosophical suffering to justify them having the good stuff. They just do. That's all.

Crushed23 · 18/10/2024 12:29

@Applemayjune * Even the people who have extremely great lives. With not much catch, (there cant be no catch at all, as every human has problems)

So what. Good luck to them. It's good that they're happy! Would it be better if everyone was living in misery

There will always be people who have more than us in certain areas. Its a world of diversity. We can work on improving our own lives*

Absolutely good luck to them! I don't begrudge them their perfect lives one bit. I am very happy with my life. 🙂

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 18/10/2024 12:28

Lordofthechai · 18/10/2024 12:24

I think the fact you’re willing to admit these feelings to yourself is a good sign. You’re self examining and reflecting. I wonder if finding a safe outlet to consider what you would like in your next 10 years from life might be a more constructive space to explore these feelings. Perhaps with a counsellor or coach. Society is quick to throw “shame! Shame!” on anyone who admits to jealousy but it’s a hugely common emotion. It’s only destructive if you allow it to be.

But yes agree with this. Recognise the toxic behaviour / thoughts and try and work on it. Good luck!

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 18/10/2024 12:27

Sistafromanothermista · 18/10/2024 07:59

Wow this really blew up. Reading back I have come across really bitchy. I think it’s the fact she was one person when I knew her and now she seems to be able to do it all: loving husband, lovely kid, great career, keeps herself looking well. I don’t begrudge her for being happy it just makes me feel shit being around her sometimes. I do think the husband one is a big one. Like I love my boyfriend and he loves me but I wouldn’t leave a night out because I missed him or vice versa.

It’s normal to find their behaviour a bit cringe if you’re not into all the lovey dovey stuff. But this feels different - you come across as jealous and toxic.

Work on your self esteem and make a plan for what you want to achieve in your life. It sounds like you’re not happy with where you’ve got to. Life is not just about money, marriage and children. There are lots of other types of fulfilment you can seek out.

It’s normal to compare ourselves with our peers but not to be so mean with it. Like trying to seek out an issue with her husband is not very healthy. I agree with a PP that I wish someone could tell her to keep away from you..

Applemayjune · 18/10/2024 12:26

Crushed23 · 18/10/2024 12:19

@MyFairMintCat That's not true. I know quite a few people who have just had a smooth sailing life. Of course, they have to work hard etc like everyone else. But they don't have a tragic backstory like your friend. They were just born into financially comfortable families, did what was expected, married someone similar and reaped the rewards.

Same. I know plenty of people where there is no 'catch' to their relatively idyllic lives. I am close enough to them to know that their life is and always has been smooth sailing, they have every privilege under the sun, and they live an instagram-worthy life without - in almost all cases - showcasing any of it on instagram. Some people just have great lives.

Even the people who have extremely great lives. With not much catch, (there cant be no catch at all, as every human has problems)

So what. Good luck to them. It's good that they're happy! Would it be better if everyone was living in misery

There will always be people who have more than us in certain areas. Its a world of diversity. We can work on improving our own lives

BunnyLake · 18/10/2024 12:25

The married people I know who have a good life have all, not uncoincidentally, chosen their life partner very carefully.

Lordofthechai · 18/10/2024 12:24

I think the fact you’re willing to admit these feelings to yourself is a good sign. You’re self examining and reflecting. I wonder if finding a safe outlet to consider what you would like in your next 10 years from life might be a more constructive space to explore these feelings. Perhaps with a counsellor or coach. Society is quick to throw “shame! Shame!” on anyone who admits to jealousy but it’s a hugely common emotion. It’s only destructive if you allow it to be.