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Selfish or not? Didn't help his ex out

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iamiam9 · 17/10/2024 18:35

This all happened yesterday evening.

SS was with his mum last night, DHs ex. She rang him up in the afternoon to say she was stuck at work and SS had some football match/ presentation thing on in the evening and could he take him. DH was working until 10 last night so said sorry he can't.

She then asked him to ask me, which he did. She also text me as well to ask.

I said no as I had a gym class booked that evening with my PT. I go to the gym 3 nights a week, it's the only me time I get and I really need it with a full time job and a toddler at home.

Long story short of it is that I'm now being called selfish by DHs ex because SS couldn't go to football and that I only care about my child. DH is just not replying to her, I've blocked her, but I can tell DH is semi in agreement with her that I should have cancelled my own plans.

So was I being terribly selfish or was it his exes (and his) issue to sort? (She has family, although her parents don't drive which is why they couldn't do it apparently).

OP posts:
SundayBloodySunday · 22/10/2024 19:49

What would you have done if it were your child? If I'd entered into a marriage with a man with a child, I would probably treat his children the same as mine, especially if it weren't really that big of a deal. Like cancelling your PT

ZoeDavoMCR · 22/10/2024 19:44

I would have taken him
Why does his dad not know about football things anyway? I’d be making sure I knew about things like this without relying on my ex, does his dad never take him to football?

JJBB22221111 · 22/10/2024 19:16

funinthesun19 · 17/10/2024 19:19

I never understand why a stepmum is expected to drop whatever she’s doing/ change her plans when the parents are unavailable.

Once again another pair of CF parents who have no respect for the stepmum’s time / choices/ plans/ life. The workout is obviously important to her and might be crucial to her well-being. Why should two CFers get to trample all over that?

Well said 👏

DontBeADick11 · 22/10/2024 19:11

MammaGisAF · 17/10/2024 18:40

I wouldn’t have taken him because as soon as you cancel your plans once it will become the expectation.

Yes… this

Cm19841 · 22/10/2024 19:10

Can't see any response to this question that was asked earlier. Why didn't the mum (or dad) pay for the grandparents to take the child there and back in a taxi? Okay, if no taxi available I understand. But was there a taxi? The SS was with grandparents who were with him but they can't drive - why not just pay for a taxi on this special occasion and move on?

I don't know why the mother has OPs phone number. I don't know why it is more OP's responsibility than it is the mother's partner's opportunity to help out.

In the middle of this is a child. I would have taken him to his presentation if all else failed and husband would reimburse the PT session because I would have made him. But this is for the child's benefit. All the adults in this are crap at seeing what matters: a little boy who needs an adult (any adult) to rely on.

JJBB22221111 · 22/10/2024 19:10

You weren't invited to the presentation originally but are expected to drop everything at the 11th hour and attend? No, you are not unreasonable.

TulaTwo · 22/10/2024 18:18

Poor boy. This was your chance to be a good Stepmum, put all your feelings for your DH’s ex aside, and show him that he can rely on you. If you’re going to be in his life long-term, wouldn’t that be a better foundation to build your relationship on?

Lulu49 · 22/10/2024 17:30

Both parents, the boys mum and dad were both working. Based on what the OP said about the PT being a lovely person he may well have worked with her re getting another session in at a different time so no one was out of pocket. It was a presentation so unless the mum has form for never attending these kinds of things I would have put the stepson before a gym session.

InterIgnis · 22/10/2024 17:13

Westofeasttoday · 22/10/2024 15:46

This. Being kind isn’t being a doormat. Being helpful and not selfish doesn’t mean that you are a doormat either.

Being a good person isn’t always easy but it’s harder than taking the easy way of only thinking about yourself.

You sound alike a very nice person and I’m sure all around you appreciate you.

Except is often used to dress up being a doormat as something to aspire to.

It’s arguably easier to bow to pressure and do what you think you ‘should’ do, what you believe is more likely to get you a pat on the back and praised, what is more likely to not get you judgement you’ve been socialized to fear, regardless of whether you actually want to or not. That said, I’m not sure why you’re presenting doing something harder as inherently better by virtue of it being harder.

MeridaBrave · 22/10/2024 16:57

I go to the gym a lot and I’d really resent missing a session but would prob try and rearrange. Harder if it’s a PT. I’d also have tried to look at paying for a taxi for the grandparents to take and then collecting them all at the end (if that would work). But no, I don’t think you are selfish, esp given it was short notice.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/10/2024 15:47

DoIWantTo · 22/10/2024 13:24

@PinkSparklyPussyCat any reason you had to quote when you’ve posted directly after me?

The step father was with his own children - could be not enough seats in the car/he sees them outside of the home and is unable to be there for step son. The OP has already explained why he wasn’t able to do it….

Because this is a forum and we're not the only ones posting. For all I knew someone else might have posted between us and my reply wouldn't have made sense 🙄

The OP has also explained why she was unable to do it, she had a booked and paid for appointment and was asked in the afternoon to take the kid in the evening. Would it have been different if she had a medical appointment and couldn't take him?

Westofeasttoday · 22/10/2024 15:46

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 19/10/2024 21:49

I’ve gone to my nieces show when parents couldn’t make it. I’ve picked up my friends kid from school when they were poorly. You show up for kids. It wasn’t my responsibility- but I also wouldn’t be going to the gym instead. I don’t know when it became ok to be selfish and feel good about it, but I don’t like it.

This. Being kind isn’t being a doormat. Being helpful and not selfish doesn’t mean that you are a doormat either.

Being a good person isn’t always easy but it’s harder than taking the easy way of only thinking about yourself.

You sound alike a very nice person and I’m sure all around you appreciate you.

SemperIdem · 22/10/2024 15:42

POTC · 22/10/2024 13:23

So Ambulance Crews sat outside the hospital at the end of their shift should just leave the patient in the carpark? Police at a major incident should just walk off when their shift ends? Firefighters should leave mid fire because their shift is over? Care workers should leave when the person they cared for has just died and there's paperwork to do?
I worked in a children's home, I had multiple occasions that I had to let my own children down when I really didn't want to, simply because I needed to finish dealing with an incident before leaving. I didn't like it, but in the real world there are jobs that you can't just up and leave.

The mother in this scenario is a legal assistant. She can in fact, up and leave. Not doing so was a choice.

Ariela · 22/10/2024 15:31

One wonders why either the mum or your DH couldn't have funded a taxi/paid for a mini cab to take SS AND grandparents there and back, grandparents who presumably miss out on a lot of stuff that grandkids do due to the usual restrictions on numbers. Cheaper cost than a PT gym session too.

Emmz1510 · 22/10/2024 15:30

Sorry yabu I think. You could have missed one gym class. But then again both his parents are also a bit shit for not not prioritising this over work.

thepariscrimefiles · 22/10/2024 15:30

Westofeasttoday · 22/10/2024 13:09

Sorry I dont agree. You marry someone knowing they have kids and you are the parent when they are with you (even if not biological). You are invested in that kids life and they see you as a parent. The “excuse” of the kid not being hers is callous. But then I am that parents who goes to everything for my kids and when other parents can’t go to football games for example I cheer for those kids because they don’t have anyone there for them.

Youre right the OP does have the liberty to do what she wants but she should also have done the right thing by this poor kid who has done nothing wrong and isn’t to blame. It’s just plain selfish behaviour.

She is blaming the ex and her partner and not putting the kid first. If it were me in that exact place I would have cancelled the appointment and taken the kid. If her kid was sick for example which is also an unexpected situation and she had to cancel that would have been fine. The double standard just because he’s a step kid is very sad.

You say to the OP that 'you are the parent when they are with you (even if not biological)'.

Her step-son wasn't with her. This happened on his day with his mum. His mum has a partner but he wasn't asked to do it.

The OP already had plans and in order to carry out those plans, she had left her own child with her mother. She comes at the bottom of the list of people who should have changed their plans.

InterIgnis · 22/10/2024 15:06

Westofeasttoday · 22/10/2024 14:58

Of course they aren’t obliged and I understand your point (which for some reason you have now made personal). You are factually correct. I just think she’s being selfish aside from the factual points you have raised.

Always a choice to did the right thing and be a good person even when you don’t have to or want to. She factually doesn’t “have to” you’re right. But she should because it’s the right thing to do for a kid.

The definition is being selfish is to out yourself first or to lack consideration for another person so factually it is correct to say she is being selfish.

You’re the one that felt the need to state what you would do 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yes, and it’s fine to choose to put yourself first. Putting yourself last doesn’t make one a good person - or a happy one for that matter - it makes one a doormat. The presentation was not more important than OP having the gym time that is clearly valuable to her. She had the good sense to plan ahead and organize child care for her own child, that her stepson’s mother didn’t isn’t her problem to solve.

I don’t hold being ‘selfish’ as some inherently bad thing that women in particular are supposed to fear being called.

FoxesSox · 22/10/2024 15:00

I agree with others. Pretty selfish to make him miss out on a presentation event for a bloody gym class that you do 3 times a week. I feel sorry for his son. Do you have absolutely no care / stepmom role to him? Strange dynamic.

Westofeasttoday · 22/10/2024 14:58

InterIgnis · 22/10/2024 14:32

You don’t have to agree. A stepparent isn’t a parent, and isn’t responsible for their stepchild. That isn’t an opinion by the way, that’s a statement of fact. A stepparent may choose to assume parental responsibilities, legally recognized or not, but they absolutely do not have to do so.

No, the kid isn’t to blame, but nor is OP. It isn’t on her to put herself out because the kid’s parents can’t take him somewhere. If they were still together and both were stuck at work then the kid would have had to miss out then too. That’s life. Kids don’t have to come first at all times, and certainly a stepparent isn’t obliged to pick up the slack for the actual parents.

What you choose to do is irrelevant, no one is obliged to follow your example (or to want to).

Edited

Of course they aren’t obliged and I understand your point (which for some reason you have now made personal). You are factually correct. I just think she’s being selfish aside from the factual points you have raised.

Always a choice to did the right thing and be a good person even when you don’t have to or want to. She factually doesn’t “have to” you’re right. But she should because it’s the right thing to do for a kid.

The definition is being selfish is to out yourself first or to lack consideration for another person so factually it is correct to say she is being selfish.

Muminthebluecoat · 22/10/2024 14:34

I think it's really sad that out of 6 people not one could this kid to his presentation!

How did you and your DH not know about it when he's with you 3 nights a week. Surely it would have been mentioned. Do you and DH go to his games?

The only person who's lost out is that poor kid. I think you should have gone. Everyone else was working or couldn't drive. Missing the gym was the easiest option to get him there and wouldn't have been that detrimental to you.

I feel sad for that kid 😞

InterIgnis · 22/10/2024 14:32

Westofeasttoday · 22/10/2024 13:09

Sorry I dont agree. You marry someone knowing they have kids and you are the parent when they are with you (even if not biological). You are invested in that kids life and they see you as a parent. The “excuse” of the kid not being hers is callous. But then I am that parents who goes to everything for my kids and when other parents can’t go to football games for example I cheer for those kids because they don’t have anyone there for them.

Youre right the OP does have the liberty to do what she wants but she should also have done the right thing by this poor kid who has done nothing wrong and isn’t to blame. It’s just plain selfish behaviour.

She is blaming the ex and her partner and not putting the kid first. If it were me in that exact place I would have cancelled the appointment and taken the kid. If her kid was sick for example which is also an unexpected situation and she had to cancel that would have been fine. The double standard just because he’s a step kid is very sad.

You don’t have to agree. A stepparent isn’t a parent, and isn’t responsible for their stepchild. That isn’t an opinion by the way, that’s a statement of fact. A stepparent may choose to assume parental responsibilities, legally recognized or not, but they absolutely do not have to do so.

No, the kid isn’t to blame, but nor is OP. It isn’t on her to put herself out because the kid’s parents can’t take him somewhere. If they were still together and both were stuck at work then the kid would have had to miss out then too. That’s life. Kids don’t have to come first at all times, and certainly a stepparent isn’t obliged to pick up the slack for the actual parents.

What you choose to do is irrelevant, no one is obliged to follow your example (or to want to).

Sonia1111 · 22/10/2024 14:26

The parents could have asked a parent-friend to pick up and drop home their child, if neither could take time off work. I do it for my fellow parents all the time, as we just can't do everything.

The OP is doing well to include herself in her priorities. 3 exercise sessions a week for her physical and mental health, alongside working and caring for her own child, is a good, healthy balance.

I do feel sad for the child who wasn't celebrated with his team, with doting parents looking on.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 22/10/2024 14:04

downwindofyou · 22/10/2024 11:28

@Phonicshaskilledmeoff

It’s bad that his parents couldn’t go, which is made even worse by his step mum not being arsed.
But no judgement of the step father huh?
The child was on their mum's contact time so it is far more reasonable that her partner takes up the slack. Not the OP.
Always the woman huh?

Isn’t the ops question whether or not she was selfish?

Also, I think work is a legitimate reason…. But not a gym class.

For the record if mum had to work late and stepdad wanted to go to the gym instead of help his step son, I’d also think that was selfish.

lessglittermoremud · 22/10/2024 13:50

If he was with his grandparents perhaps you could have given them a lift even if it meant them going early, so then you could have headed to your gym session.
They could have then made their own way back after the presentation.
My child his on a football team and would be so gutted to have missed his yearly presentation, I would have helped to get him there.

PrueRamsay · 22/10/2024 13:39

POTC · 22/10/2024 13:23

So Ambulance Crews sat outside the hospital at the end of their shift should just leave the patient in the carpark? Police at a major incident should just walk off when their shift ends? Firefighters should leave mid fire because their shift is over? Care workers should leave when the person they cared for has just died and there's paperwork to do?
I worked in a children's home, I had multiple occasions that I had to let my own children down when I really didn't want to, simply because I needed to finish dealing with an incident before leaving. I didn't like it, but in the real world there are jobs that you can't just up and leave.

No, they should have booked the time off.