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A woman shouldn't be leader of the Opposition because she has young children

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Reugny · 17/10/2024 15:11

According to Sir Christopher Chope, 77, Ms Badenoch should not be Tory leader as she has young children.

Is he a dinosaur? Vote YANBU if you think he is.

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DartingDeer · 18/10/2024 07:00

Toseland · 17/10/2024 15:51

I'm hoping Kemi will be the next leader of Torys as I think she really understands the awful danger women's rights are currently in.
Chope seems quite desperate to find anything he can to sling at her.

Are you serious. There is plenty Chope can sling at her.

DartingDeer · 18/10/2024 06:57

She shouldn’t be leader of the opposition for several reasons however having children isn’t one of them.

Love the way her having children is an issue but not her vile views and inability to fact check when publishing literature.🤔

SinnerBoy · 18/10/2024 04:40

Hateam · Yesterday 16:14

He voted against a bill because he dislikes the parliamentary procedure that was being used to pass it through.

That turned out to be untrue, as he turns out to have voted for a number of them, which were proposed by his friends. Who'd have thought it, a hypocritical, dishonest politician!

ContactNightmare · 17/10/2024 19:06

MidnightPatrol · 17/10/2024 17:38

Chope has proven time and time again he’s a complete dinosaur with dubious views on women.

I don’t think his view is probably too unusual of his generation however, I am still asked with some frequency ‘if I work’ or ‘will I go back to work’ - while being my household’s main breadwinner.

No one ever seems to ask men these questions!

Considering the average age of a voting member of the Tory Party is over 64 Chope is more likely to be close to their views.

MidnightPatrol · 17/10/2024 17:38

Chope has proven time and time again he’s a complete dinosaur with dubious views on women.

I don’t think his view is probably too unusual of his generation however, I am still asked with some frequency ‘if I work’ or ‘will I go back to work’ - while being my household’s main breadwinner.

No one ever seems to ask men these questions!

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/10/2024 17:36

TickingAlongNicely · 17/10/2024 16:29

So in the US men tried to claim Kamala Harris couldn't be President as she was childless

Now in the UK, a woman shouldn't be in power as she has children?

In other words... men don't think women should be in power.

Particularly women of colour maybe.

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Reugny · 17/10/2024 16:52

WorriedRelative · 17/10/2024 16:48

So badenoch is unsuitable to lead the tories because she has children. May was unsuitable to lead the tiries because she didn't have children.

Funny how Johnson wasn't unsuitable despite having a tiny baby.

And being unable to say how many children he actually had.

Odd as every male PM including the others who had children while PM did know how many children they have.

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Londonmummy66 · 17/10/2024 16:51

Whatever you think of KB it is utterly offensive to say that a woman with young children cannot be leader of the opposition when Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Boris Johnson all managed it whilst Prime Minister. Blair Cameron and Johnston managed it with babies......

WorriedRelative · 17/10/2024 16:48

So badenoch is unsuitable to lead the tories because she has children. May was unsuitable to lead the tiries because she didn't have children.

Funny how Johnson wasn't unsuitable despite having a tiny baby.

Boomer55 · 17/10/2024 16:45

Badenoch shouldn't be leader of anything. Not because she’s got kids, just because she’s clueless and unpleasant. 🙄

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Reugny · 17/10/2024 16:42

TickingAlongNicely · 17/10/2024 16:29

So in the US men tried to claim Kamala Harris couldn't be President as she was childless

Now in the UK, a woman shouldn't be in power as she has children?

In other words... men don't think women should be in power.

Oddly this wasn't mentioned when Ms Truss was standing for leader. I can't think why...

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ContactNightmare · 17/10/2024 16:38

Reugny · 17/10/2024 16:25

It's to give the voting party members an excuse.

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It’s a little whistle to remind them all! No this man is not stupid

TickingAlongNicely · 17/10/2024 16:29

So in the US men tried to claim Kamala Harris couldn't be President as she was childless

Now in the UK, a woman shouldn't be in power as she has children?

In other words... men don't think women should be in power.

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Reugny · 17/10/2024 16:25

WalkingThroughTreacle · 17/10/2024 16:24

A load of bollox that's quickly dispelled with fact by referencing all those mothers of young children who have risen to the highest levels of their chosen field whether in politics/government, business, entertainment, science etc.

I could name quite a few off the top of my head but I have no idea who the hell Christopher Chope is. A wait, looks like he's a back bencher who never held a role higher than under-secretary of state back in the early 90s. Sounds a bit like the unfit lad who can just about manage a friendly game of five-aside but thinks he's qualified to decide who should get to play in the premiership.

It's to give the voting party members an excuse.

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WalkingThroughTreacle · 17/10/2024 16:24

A load of bollox that's quickly dispelled with fact by referencing all those mothers of young children who have risen to the highest levels of their chosen field whether in politics/government, business, entertainment, science etc.

I could name quite a few off the top of my head but I have no idea who the hell Christopher Chope is. A wait, looks like he's a back bencher who never held a role higher than under-secretary of state back in the early 90s. Sounds a bit like the unfit lad who can just about manage a friendly game of five-aside but thinks he's qualified to decide who should get to play in the premiership.

GCAcademic · 17/10/2024 16:23

He’s a rancid, misogynistic dinosaur, but probably fairly representative of the Tory party membership, I would think.

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Reugny · 17/10/2024 16:22

Reallybadidea · 17/10/2024 16:14

He's not wrong that many in the Conservative party think this way. My father who is a dyed-in-the-wool Tory said recently that women with young children shouldn't be in senior leadership positions in the workplace because they can't concentrate properly. And my mum said that women don't make good leaders generally (with the exception of Maggie presumably) because the power goes to their heads 😳

I remember former Green MP Caroline Lucas said that being an MP is more than a normal full-time job. So from your parents sexist thinking no woman should ever be an MP if they have children.

btw Robert Jenrick's children are about the same age.

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Hateam · 17/10/2024 16:18

ContactNightmare · 17/10/2024 15:15

Fairs fair. I think she would incompetent with or without children. As indeed her male predecessors were

And female predecessors too.
May ... Truss

Reallybadidea · 17/10/2024 16:14

He's not wrong that many in the Conservative party think this way. My father who is a dyed-in-the-wool Tory said recently that women with young children shouldn't be in senior leadership positions in the workplace because they can't concentrate properly. And my mum said that women don't make good leaders generally (with the exception of Maggie presumably) because the power goes to their heads 😳

Hateam · 17/10/2024 16:14

unsync · 17/10/2024 15:17

Chope, he's the upskirting idiot, isn't he?

Not in anyway defending his views here but you're deliberately implying something that isn't true. That's low.

He voted against a bill because he dislikes the parliamentary procedure that was being used to pass it through. Not because he is in favour of upskirting.

Also, he has not committed an act of upskirting something your post implies he did.

ContactNightmare · 17/10/2024 16:03

showmethegin · 17/10/2024 16:00

Are you being ironic? The same women who in the last fortnight has attacked maternity leave and the families of ND kids. Her?

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Yes that Kemi Badenoch; the one who thinks giving a gong to JK Rowling is a policy.

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showmethegin · 17/10/2024 16:00

Toseland · 17/10/2024 15:51

I'm hoping Kemi will be the next leader of Torys as I think she really understands the awful danger women's rights are currently in.
Chope seems quite desperate to find anything he can to sling at her.

Are you being ironic? The same women who in the last fortnight has attacked maternity leave and the families of ND kids. Her?

randomchap · 17/10/2024 16:00

Reugny · 17/10/2024 15:52

I heard they had doubled it to avoid the leader changing every couple of months.

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I think they're considering changing it, not that it has been changed.

They last changed the rules when Hague was the leader

Westfacing · 17/10/2024 15:58

Reugny · 17/10/2024 15:53

I'm interested to see which of the two crackpots they go for.

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It was going to be televised I think - would have liked to have seen them knock lumps out of each other!

It's a bit of entertainment, now they're not in power.