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To ask: if you are a cleaner, what are the things in the house that would make you judge someone?

162 replies

Eastie77Returns · 16/10/2024 16:28

I spend about an hour doing a pre-clean/tidy before our new cleaner arrives. There are some things I think look too messy for her to deal with and I also worry she will judge me on the general state the house has fallen into in between her visits.

A friend who has the same cleaner thinks I'm nuts for doing this.

Can I ask, if you are a cleaner are there certain things that would make you think someone is an absolute slob or you don't think you should have to deal with? I know surfaces should be as clear as possible and also cleaners should not be expected to tidy up,fold clothes etc (unless mutually agreed).

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Quitelikeit · 17/10/2024 19:46

@Eastie77Returns eurghhh so lazy was it Liam Gallagher? I can’t imagine who would wee in a bottle as surely they’d have an en-suite

Eastie77Returns · 17/10/2024 19:42

I think I am still scarred from the memory of something our previous cleaner told us. She cleaned the home of a very famous couple. She would often turn up to find things like diarrhoea filled loos and congealed food on plates under beds. The husband used to pee in Evian bottles and leave them by the bed for her to empty and other delights. She was desperate for money so stayed but eventually left after the husband screamed abuse at her and accused her of stealing a vase (eventually found in one their many rooms). Horrible and I cannot understand how anyone could treat another human being that way.

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BlueFlowers5 · 17/10/2024 19:36

I have to employ a cleaner as I can't do it myself. I used to tidy up but leave it to them to work their miracles on.
And I always thank them for it.

MarvellousMonsters · 17/10/2024 19:31

Moveoverdarlin · 16/10/2024 16:46

Clean toilet, beds made, kids shit put away. (Like the 5000 felt tips, 200 Lego pieces and 7 million look bands)

Mine make the beds and fold the loo roll into a point. They'll even change the beds if I leave the clean duvet covers out for them.

Legends.

MarvellousMonsters · 17/10/2024 19:29

Stormyweatheroutthere · 16/10/2024 16:38

Cleaner here...
Step away from the mess...
Seriously I love transforming your home!!. Spend your time drinking coffee and doing me a list!!

My cleaners say this too!

I tidy up so they can get to the worktops etc, but I stop wiping the cooker a couple of days before they are due, and they say it's really satisfying to transform the house. On more than one occasion they've folded clean dry laundry for me even though it's not really their remit!

(I honestly love my cleaners, if I'm home when they are here we have such a laugh)

laraitopbanana · 17/10/2024 18:45

Boysgrownbutstillathome · 17/10/2024 18:42

I want you, when are you free?!!!

Me next please!!!

laraitopbanana · 17/10/2024 18:45

Everything. Loool

sorry, I know I am not helping 🌺🤣

Boysgrownbutstillathome · 17/10/2024 18:42

Stormyweatheroutthere · 16/10/2024 16:38

Cleaner here...
Step away from the mess...
Seriously I love transforming your home!!. Spend your time drinking coffee and doing me a list!!

I want you, when are you free?!!!

PoshHorseyBird · 17/10/2024 18:13

Cleaner here.
I'm happy to tidy, de clutter, wash up, make beds etc..as long as I have enough time to do it!
For example, If it takes me 2 hours to clean a house don't then leave a sink full of washing up as well as I won't have time to get that done. If you want me to wash up on your visit that's fine, but you'll need to book a longer slot.
The only things I would judge are grim things that have been left for me..e.g, toenail clippings on a coffee table, unwrapped sanitary towels, toilets with crusty poo and used condoms..I don't get paid enough for these things! 🤣

whatkatydid2014 · 17/10/2024 15:03

Lookslikemeemaw · 17/10/2024 12:31

‘I find MN attitudes towards cleaners quite patronising.
They are there to do a job, in your workplace do you expect other people to do half of it before you arrive?!?
’

our cleaner has 3 hours a week to clean the house, and realistically I know there’s only so much she can do in 3 hours. That’s not patronising. It’s practical!

So we make sure the house is tidy, so that she can actually vacuum, wash, mop, wipe. Polish etc

Yep this. Also I don’t mind tidying up and if I do it I know where I put things (mostly anyway). I hate most cleaning and I’m not that efficient at it so I’d rather our cleaner who is super efficient can get on with it

Lookslikemeemaw · 17/10/2024 12:31

‘I find MN attitudes towards cleaners quite patronising.
They are there to do a job, in your workplace do you expect other people to do half of it before you arrive?!?
’

our cleaner has 3 hours a week to clean the house, and realistically I know there’s only so much she can do in 3 hours. That’s not patronising. It’s practical!

So we make sure the house is tidy, so that she can actually vacuum, wash, mop, wipe. Polish etc

Purplebunnie · 17/10/2024 11:21

I had a cleaner for a short while. I refused to let her clean my toilet - she was pregnant. She was quite willing to do it and kept asking but I thought nope not letting you do that in your condition

She only cleaned the bottom of the house lounge carpets always looked wonderful when she'd hovered.

I felt bad having a pregnant woman doing my housework but she needed the money.

Aposterhasnoname · 17/10/2024 11:03

Screw that. I pay a cleaner so I don’t have to do it. I wouldn’t leave anything disgusting like skid marks in the loo or toothpaste spit in the sink or something, but other than that, that’s what she’s paid for. I wouldn’t expect someone to do half my work for me before I got there.

nokidshere · 17/10/2024 10:52

I always tidy up on Thursday night before my cleaner comes on Friday. I want her to clean, not tidy up our belongings. Plus it has the added advantage that the house always looks fab on Friday because it's clean and tidy. It also means there is never more than a weeks worth of 'stuff' lying around.

CHEESEY13 · 17/10/2024 10:43

It's OK to do some tidying before the cleaner arrives. They are a Cleaner and not a Servant.

Parker231 · 17/10/2024 10:42

Everywhere is tidy as a cleaner can’t clean otherwise. No messy toilets as they are cleaned up by whoever uses it last. Don’t make the beds as the cleaner changes the bedding, loads the washing machine, tumble dryer.

Gwenhwyfar · 17/10/2024 10:38

AutumnLeaves24 · 16/10/2024 23:47

@MounjaroUser

of course it's not. I don't need to clean the toilet 'before the cleaner comes' because it's always clean.

(& I don't have a cleaner)

If it's always clean then you ARE cleaning it before the cleaner comes, just not immediately before.

Gwenhwyfar · 17/10/2024 10:34

PCOSisaid · 16/10/2024 20:14

I find MN attitudes towards cleaners quite patronising.

They are there to do a job, in your workplace do you expect other people to do half of it before you arrive?!?

As long as you are not being disrespectful e.g leaving things out like sex toys or dirty underwear on the floor then just leave your cleaner alone and stop feeling sorry for them!

It’s really condescending - most cleaners are running their own businesses or doing work they find flexible around their children’s needs. There are tonnes of service workers in the UK, but MN have this obsession that cleaners are to be pitied and are some kind of helpless sub class of humanity. Stop it

In many workplaces you have to take your cup back to the kitchen and in some you have to wash it too so same principle really. It's not because people feel sorry for the cleaners, but because higher ups decide what they want the cleaners' time spent on.

lb640 · 17/10/2024 10:29

Am a cleaner, and only things I find really icky are not flushing toilets, very soiled spattered toilets, underwear hung where i have to touch to move it (used in shower or in kitchen for example!), poop on floor, animal poop on floor/beds, and someone who left sex toys out, lined up proudly, 'to dry'!

(Although if it's a genuine situation eg I had a client going through chemo, I'll happily do extra to help with bodily messes if necessary)

Otherwise life is manic and here to help! Dump clothes/kids toys on beds as tidying up takes time out of cleaning!(unless you don't mind that, a few don't!)

And am amused at a lady with a lego mad son who gets a broom and just sweeps me a path so I can dust bedside table/drawers!

Lookslikemeemaw · 17/10/2024 10:24

Oh, and I would absolutely have judged any adult who left dirty underwear on the floor for me to lift. Not talking about the odd sock that gets dropped, but proper thoughtlessness.
I used to clean hotels rooms, as a student job, and you wouldn’t believe how disgusting people can be when they think there’s someone else to clean for them.
If you stay in a hotel even just making sure your rubbish is all in bins, your personal items Put away ( used dildo in the bed was a lowlight for me at 18) and the dirty/ used towels are in the bath or shower really helps your housekeeper out.

wiesowarum · 17/10/2024 10:20

A cleaner is supposed to clean, so the house shouldn't be so messy that it's hard to actually clean.

Lookslikemeemaw · 17/10/2024 10:18

I used to wonder why people would leave the house REALLY untidy and have me waste half my time tidying rather than cleaning! Your money I suppose but I did judge people who let their kids leave dirty washing or towels in the floor, unmade beds, trash not in the bin when they had laundry baskets and bins in the bedroom!
As a result we now tell our kids if they want the cleaner to go in Their room ( they do!) then it has to be picked up a bit so she can actually clean. I’m not having her spend half her time lifting their rubbish! Both kids keep room quite tidy now in general.

Then only other thing - I would prefer if people didn’t leave a bathroom bin full of ‘personal’ waste ie used tampons, used pads, used condoms etc. It’s a nice thing if the owners just put that stuff in the big bin themselves…

WetBandits · 17/10/2024 10:12

Catza · 17/10/2024 08:46

Yeah, I don't get this either. Thinking about judging, I retract my comment. My friends never clean the toilet except before they host a party. I do judge. The rest of the house is chaotic and I am OK with that. They are a lovely family and the house has always been a safe harbour for people over the years. It has character and the chaos adds to that but why wouldn't they clean the toilet after going?! I haven't a clue.

I mean, I am not the tidiest person and there’s definitely more dust in my house than I’d like there to be but I draw the line at shitty skids in the toilet! Surely it’s the responsibility of whoever left them there, or their parent/guardian/carer if they are unable to do it themselves. Nobody should just be flushing and leaving.

Same with cat trays, I scoop poo and wee as soon as I see it, I hate it when you go to someone’s house and they’ve just left it there in the tray. Not nice for anyone, least of all the poor cat who has to dodge their own shit the next time they want to use the tray!

Jerabilis · 17/10/2024 09:42

Jammedchakra · 17/10/2024 08:51

I put stuff away, clear floors and surfaces of paperwork and junk, then she can clean

i wouldn’t leave a giant skid of shit in the loo, but I’m not cleaning it as such.

She empties bins, changes bed, hoovers, dust, mop, windows, ironing.

I love her.

Yes, this is 100% my position.

AnotherEmma · 17/10/2024 09:36

Vhp83 · 17/10/2024 08:18

I am terrible for this, but my cleaner is neighbour and would hate her to gossip with other neighbours.
I tidy, change beds (more so that everything is clean), wipe sinks and toilets, bleach loo I even run the hoover around.

WTF!