Kylian Mbappe accused of rape - AIBU to be a bit shocked

You are of course right but that doesn't fit the narrative that many are keen to push.

Because they can.

Wasn't the figure around 78% of men said they would rape if they could get away with it?

Can’t not think of Ferengi…

Misogyny. That's why so many footballers also cheat on their spouses. They are emotionally unintelligent. Uneducated young men with lots of money are rarely very nice.

Sad to see people disbelieving the woman. I would always automatically believe the woman because the incidences of women lying about rape are far, far lower than the incidences of women being raped. It's always a possibility they are lying but it's much more likely that she is not.

Eh?

Last time I checked being accused wasn’t the same as being guilty. Just saying.

He'd probably get a three month suspended sentence for that in the UK, and be put on the register of course.

Kylian Mbaope is a young gorgeous rich talented footballer and still rapes (allegedly). this man could sleep with four different women every night. What makes them rape so much?

It never surprises me the lengths other women go to automatically defend men and accuse other women of making false rape claims.

Quite sad really. All it does is make it harder and harder for women to speak out because they are dismissed at the first complaint "because he's one of the good guys and would never do that"

This was my first thought when I read your post too OP

That's a frightening image.

No, im not surprised that yet another footballer is accused of rape.

Sky news are saying that a rape accusation has been made, but the authorities in Sweden have not named the suspect.

I completely empathise OP. Though I’m completely aware about violence from
men towards women, but with some celebrities you build up a picture in your mind of who you think they are. It’s always really disappointing when we find out some are very different to how they appear.

Yep, I with you, OP. Of course I want justice, and of course we always hear 'but he seemed so nice' about all sorts of men doing all sorts of awful things..,

But I am also surprised/disappointed etc. As he DID seem like a good, aware man who did talk a lot about social justice issues.

I know it’s irrational because I don’t know the guy but I’m shocked because he always comes across as ok. As a football fan who has lived in France for 20 years, I really, really don’t want to believe it but at the same time I really, really want the woman to get justice, whatever the outcome of that would be.

I do think the most important thing right now is that it should be a trial via the courts, not the media or social media.

Men rape women. Females cry rape. What kind of female? Cat, beetle, horse, human? If human, then say human it wouldn't kill you. If you had said something along the lines of "or a woman has made false allegations" I think I would be more inclined to believe you were looking at this from a non-biased viewpoint.
Gosh darned females.

Did they lie, or was there just not enough evidence to bring about a prosecution?

Don't you think that saying a woman might have cried rape or a man might have raped implies they're equally likely? Or even that saying a woman might have 'cried rape' first implies that is the more likely explanation?When in fact one is extremely common and one extremely rare?

It's like saying oh my 96 year old neighbour died, he might have been hit by lightning or he might have died of old age. One is vastly more likely than the other.

My own personal experience, personally and professionally, is why I don’t agree that it’s rare.

Crying rape does happen and in most cases nothing happens to the accuser even when there is clear evidence that the accuser has lied and the accused was innocent.

I’m out of this discussion, I ave no more to say on this OP or the topic of rape.

Sweden has quite comprehensive rape laws which classify acts that would be defined as sexual assault or indeed merely distasteful in the UK as rape.

A example of this is stealthing - where a man removes a condom without consent during consensual sex. This would be classified as rape in Sweden.

Similarly, if one partner was drunk and therefore consent could not be confirmed, even if the perpetrator's intention was not to commit rape, this would be classified as 'negligent rape' in Sweden.

Needless to say, I would be very supportive of my daughter going to Lund University!

Re Mbappe - he does a lot for charity but that does not preclude him from inappropriate behaviour. Let us let the legal process follow its course

Well, I thought that would go without saying.

I assume when you hear of a woman falsely reporting a rape you also comment saying ‘women are sometimes actually raped by men though’.

Yes…but if one woman in a million makes a false accusation it has still happened on occasion! I’m not disputing the rareness of it! Simply saying it has happened…