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Bad ending to holiday with friend, AIBU here?

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ExhaustedAbroad1 · 16/10/2024 00:29

My friend of years invited me to go on a mini break with him, it was to be my first time abroad. He has been trying to persuade me to come away for ages now.

Being an experienced traveller he offered to sort the accommodation and make all of the arrangements.

The accommodation he booked is a twin room. 3 nights. We've never slept in the same room overnight before.

He then mentions that he snores. It worried me a bit as I'm a light sleeper and had a crap time of it with a loudly snoring exH.

I got some ear plugs and figured they would take the edge off. They haven't. His snoring is just as bad as my exH, probably even worse tbh. Ear plugs totally useless.

I didn't sleep well the night before we came away as I was nervous about flying so I was already tired when I got here.

Night 1 I managed a broken 4 hours because of the snoring, he then jumps out of bed at 5.30am bright eyed and busy tailed to get ready for the day and puts the big light on so I get up. I was that exhausted I fell asleep twice on the way to and from an excursion.

Night 2 was much of the same. I had to ask him, gently, to try moving positions as the snoring was off the charts. Barely any sleep for me again and this morning he jollied me along and insisted we go for a massive walk first thing. I'm not a very confident person and didn't feel able to say no. That is my issue I know.

24,000 steps on my pedometer by the end of the night and I'm so tired I feel ill. I laid here for about 2 and a half hours desperately trying to fall asleep because we have to leave at 6am in the morning for our flight home. Snoring like mad again.

I eventually had the idea to put some white noise on my phone next to my ear to hopefully drown it out a bit so I could atleast get a few hours in.

It must have worked eventually because the next thing I know I'm startled awake to him standing over me, incredibly pissed off, demanding that I turn it off because it woke him up. I never spoke to him in any way shape or form like that despite keeping me up for three nights.

Off he goes back to snore sleep.

I'm just sitting here crying now.

I couldn't afford to spend out on another room or I would have done.

Was I being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
Stormyweatheroutthere · 16/10/2024 09:36

You should have told him when he first booked and mentioned his snoring he needed to change the room booking.

AnonymousBleep · 16/10/2024 09:33

He sounds like a bit of a knob tbh. It's a shame you didn't record the snoring and play it back to him so he gets the message that three nights of that is far, far worse than a bit of white noise. He shouldn't have booked a twin room knowing that he snores. You're not in the wrong and you've every right to send him an email or text when you get home saying you did not appreciate him speaking to you like that, particularly given your DV background (if he knows about that).

AngelinaFibres · 16/10/2024 09:27

My husband snores. He used to just snore if he slept on his back, so I would turn him onto his side and he'd stop. Now he snores wherever and however he sleeps. We have a spare room so now I either start off in there, if I have something on tomorrow that means I need a good night's sleep, or I start in our bed and move as soon as the snoring wakes me up. I'm 59 and I just can't cope with broken sleep the way I could when the children were small. It makes me feel so ill.I wouldn't share a room with anyone ( other than him) now. I need sleep,I want privacy in the bathroom ,I need to decompress after a day with someone who isn't my husband. The older I get the more of my own space I find I need. I would certainly never, ever share a room with a man I wasn't jn an intimate relationship with. I just don't want to know all those personal details about someone.

MSLRT · 16/10/2024 09:25

Knowing how badly he snores, he was really inconsiderate booking a twin room. Obviously didn’t want to put his hand in his pocket to pay for his own room. You are totally justified in your actions. I really wouldn’t be bothering with just a knob again - as a friend or a holiday companion.

healthybychristmas · 16/10/2024 09:22

He wasn't thinking of you at all when he booked that twin room. Where's your privacy? He knows he snores and he doesn't care that you won't be able to sleep. This is not a good man.

ns87 · 16/10/2024 09:22

He sounds like an awful friend.

wowzelcat · 16/10/2024 09:21

OP this situation sounds miserable. Don’t go away on holiday with this guy again. Holidays are for fun, not being sleep deprived. He really should have booked separate rooms if he is that bad of a snorer.

My DH snores like jack hammer. I use loop ear plugs which help a lot when we go away and sleep in the same room. At home, separate bedrooms. I went for years with serious sleep deprivation, then I recorded his snoring, and played it back to him. He was horrified and now sleeps in the guest bedroom. And, yes he has seen the doctor. His nasal passages are small, and he uses a spray and some nose stickers to open them…it is better, but unless I shut my door, I can still hear him down the hall.

VivianLea · 16/10/2024 09:19

Oh OP, this man is not a friend. I'd be reconsidering things massively.

TheConvalescent · 16/10/2024 09:13

ExhaustedAbroad1 · 16/10/2024 06:05

I wanted to tell him that the way he spoke to me upset me but it's clear he doesn't want to discuss the issue any further so I won't say anything else, it'll just look like I'm spoiling for a row at this point.

I think his position remains that I was unreasonable for the white noise and he can't see past that to how bad the snoring issue has been for me.

But who cares if' it looks as if you're spoiling for a fight'? It would be entirely understandable if you were, after three nights of little sleep for a reason that could have been avoided if your friend had warned you he snores. You seem to be putting far more mental energy into what he might be thinking than into your own welfare. Centre yourself here. What do you need right now? Sleep. So get some sleep. What excursions you miss, or what he might think aren't important. Stop getting out of other people's way.

Notwhatuwanttohear · 16/10/2024 09:11

Do not go away with this man ever again.

heyaheyaa · 16/10/2024 09:10

You need to stand up for yourself. You’re being a pushover and he knows it. He’s an absolute arsehole.

AngelinaFibres · 16/10/2024 09:08

My friend ( female) had to travel home to Italy for the funeral of granny. She shared a room with her sister for the first time in their adult lives. Her snoring was off the scale. Her sister mentioned it and it was denied, so the second night she recorded it on her phone. The following morning she played it back to her. The snorer was horrified at how loud she was. ( Their brother then set it as the snorers ring tone whilst her phone was unattended because they are siblings and that's what siblings do)

greenday16B · 16/10/2024 09:07

Entitled knob of a person. You deserve better.

WhatNoRaisins · 16/10/2024 09:06

I think for some the room sharing is a genuine cost saving thing without any bad intent. In isolation I'd give that the benefit of the doubt.

Personally, like many, I got to a point where I suddenly wasn't ok with it and that's fine. It's something that needs to be talked about and not assumed.

Gizlotsmum · 16/10/2024 08:59

Did he know how little sleep you have had before this morning? My husband snores and I will move him/wake him to stop, he won’t always remember me doing it. I think if you wanted to go on holiday with him it would need to be seperate rooms.

BlastedPimples · 16/10/2024 08:59

Do not go on holiday with this man again. He sounds like a jerk. Really.

If you do go away with him again, knowing full well what he is like then it's all on you.

CeruleanBelt · 16/10/2024 08:55

ExcludedatfiveFML · 16/10/2024 07:08

I voted that you're being unreasonable, because you're being so wet and passive.

Don't allow anyone to walk all over you like this ever again.

Cut this selfish non friend out of your life, he's a prick.

I guess you missed the part about being a previous victim of male abuse.

Or you just had an empathy bypass.

MsPavlichenko · 16/10/2024 08:55

Coalsy · 16/10/2024 08:41

He is a very nasty man.
Knows well he snore but booked a double room.
He intimidated you last night.

You are in another bad relationship with a man.
In your place I wouldn't go on that trip.
I would sleep.
He shut you down like abusive men do.

End your relationship with him asap and never contact him again.
He is not a good man.

Please do the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

You desperately need to up your boundaries for your safety.

Him booking a twin room was very off too.
Not a normal thing for a man to do, very dishonest and manipulative.

OP you need to step away from men until you learn to identify red flags, learn to stand up for yourself and certainly not be going away on trips with men like him.

Edited

All of this, and yes to the Freedom Programme.

Toomanyemails · 16/10/2024 08:52

He doesn't sound very sensitive, I think you could try explaining that the white noise needed to be on that loud as his snoring was that loud. Headphones aren't comfy for sleeping.
For future, don't go on trips or at least don't share rooms with people you can't have a frank conversation with! He's being rude not to properly acknowledge the problem. It sounds like this was the last night but be very clear if he tried to plan future trips!

MsPavlichenko · 16/10/2024 08:50

He sounds vile. Did he check you were happy with a twin room before hand? I would be uncomfortable sharing with any man other than my partner, even my close male friend of nearly forty years. If he did and you agreed, did he spell out the snoring issue to you?

You seem very passive about it all, and I think that reflects the relationship dynamic. He is in charge essentially. He seems to have planned the itinary, including early starts. He actually wakes you loudly to tell you off, does so again in the morning re the earphones, and now you feel he doesn’t want to discuss it any more. So you’re not. The power balance is all off.

Lots of boundaries pushed on only your first holiday . I’d be thinking carefully about what you are getting out of this “ friendship” Also, no matter how safe you feel he is , you can never be sure of this unfortunately. Women are attacked often by men they are close to.

rainbowstardrops · 16/10/2024 08:50

Listening to snoring is absolutely infuriating and I say that as a snorer too!
Your friend has got a bloody cheek moaning how loud your white noise was when he knows he's disturbed you too. If I'd kept someone awake, I'd be falling over myself apologising.
Mind you, I wouldn't have agreed to sharing a room with him anyway. That's just a bit weird to me. Lesson learned I suppose.
Go home and hopefully you can sleep on the plane/in your own bed later!

Candleabra · 16/10/2024 08:50

Snoring is awful. But the real problem is him booking a twin room without asking. That is a serious issue and has put you in a horribly vulnerable position. I would never share a room with a man I wasn’t romantically involved with.

twentysevendresses · 16/10/2024 08:46

TheOccupier · 16/10/2024 06:50

Not in a million years would I travel (overseas?) and share a bedroom with a man I wasn't already sleeping with. It sounds like you have trouble identifying and setting safe boundaries with men. Please get home safely and distance yourself from this person.

This ⬆️ with bells on!!

OP...why on earth did you agree to this set up in the first place?? It's completely bizarre to me, that you'd agree to a holiday where you're sharing a room with a man you aren't intimate with! 😳

Where are your boundaries?

Coalsy · 16/10/2024 08:41

He is a very nasty man.
Knows well he snore but booked a double room.
He intimidated you last night.

You are in another bad relationship with a man.
In your place I wouldn't go on that trip.
I would sleep.
He shut you down like abusive men do.

End your relationship with him asap and never contact him again.
He is not a good man.

Please do the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

You desperately need to up your boundaries for your safety.

Him booking a twin room was very off too.
Not a normal thing for a man to do, very dishonest and manipulative.

OP you need to step away from men until you learn to identify red flags, learn to stand up for yourself and certainly not be going away on trips with men like him.

The Freedom Programme. Learn about domestic violence and abuse

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backinthebox · 16/10/2024 08:40

I’m another one who is surprised at the room share situation. Sharing a room with anyone at all requires a deep trust in the other person that you are safe with them while you are vulnerable (ie asleep.) There are only 2 men I would share a room with on a holiday - my husband, and at a push my brother (although I would do my best to book separate rooms if I had a choice there!) Even among my female friends, the answer would probably be a no, with the exception of a very small number of close friends.

I’ve just managed to resolve a complicated situation where one friend wanted to share with me, but I didn’t want to share with her. I had to rather delicately tell her I did not wish to share a room with anyone on this particular trip, not just her as I have happily shared with her in the past, but we will be doing some activities that will require a lot of energy and she is a snorer too, and it could well be cold and rainy while we are outside so I wanted my own bathroom to come back to at the end of the day, not to have to share it and have someone left waiting. It was a bit fraught, but it’s so much better to get the debate out of the way before you go away, than to get part way through a trip and it be ruining it. I’ve had another situation when a large group of my female friends shared a dorm room and the one in the group who snored brought a big bag of ear plugs for everyone, as she was mortified she might disturb us.

Anyway, as others have already said to the OP, she needs to realise what constitutes a ‘good’ man - a good man would never have booked a shared room, not even considered it! And a good man would certainly not have been so unselfaware as to shout at you for attempting to block out the sound of his snoring.