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Bad ending to holiday with friend, AIBU here?

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ExhaustedAbroad1 · 16/10/2024 00:29

My friend of years invited me to go on a mini break with him, it was to be my first time abroad. He has been trying to persuade me to come away for ages now.

Being an experienced traveller he offered to sort the accommodation and make all of the arrangements.

The accommodation he booked is a twin room. 3 nights. We've never slept in the same room overnight before.

He then mentions that he snores. It worried me a bit as I'm a light sleeper and had a crap time of it with a loudly snoring exH.

I got some ear plugs and figured they would take the edge off. They haven't. His snoring is just as bad as my exH, probably even worse tbh. Ear plugs totally useless.

I didn't sleep well the night before we came away as I was nervous about flying so I was already tired when I got here.

Night 1 I managed a broken 4 hours because of the snoring, he then jumps out of bed at 5.30am bright eyed and busy tailed to get ready for the day and puts the big light on so I get up. I was that exhausted I fell asleep twice on the way to and from an excursion.

Night 2 was much of the same. I had to ask him, gently, to try moving positions as the snoring was off the charts. Barely any sleep for me again and this morning he jollied me along and insisted we go for a massive walk first thing. I'm not a very confident person and didn't feel able to say no. That is my issue I know.

24,000 steps on my pedometer by the end of the night and I'm so tired I feel ill. I laid here for about 2 and a half hours desperately trying to fall asleep because we have to leave at 6am in the morning for our flight home. Snoring like mad again.

I eventually had the idea to put some white noise on my phone next to my ear to hopefully drown it out a bit so I could atleast get a few hours in.

It must have worked eventually because the next thing I know I'm startled awake to him standing over me, incredibly pissed off, demanding that I turn it off because it woke him up. I never spoke to him in any way shape or form like that despite keeping me up for three nights.

Off he goes back to snore sleep.

I'm just sitting here crying now.

I couldn't afford to spend out on another room or I would have done.

Was I being unreasonable here?

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TicklishMintDuck · 19/10/2024 13:18

You can go away with someone and spend some time apart. Also, if you can afford to, book your own room so you can sleep and and have your own space too.

Sallyingon · 19/10/2024 10:10

Glad you are safely home op. That situation sounds horrible and frightening. If your friendship survives and you go again with him (I don't think I would) I would insist on separate rooms.

Navyontop · 19/10/2024 09:58

HowDidYouGuess · 16/10/2024 01:02

Perhaps you're just not well matched for vacationing.

You were nervous about flying, you're a light sleeper, you couldn't sleep despite having earplugs, you lacked confidence to verbalize your wants/needs, the excercise/exertion/lack of sleep exhausted you on a very short trip. This is just what you directly identified.

Snoring is annoying but there isn't anything he can do about it...does sound like he wasn't patient on the last night certainly...but only you know if you are fun to travel with. Perhaps don't write the friendship off but do consider if you have the same travel/vacation styles.

WOW, do you realise how judgmental, condescending and factually incorrect you come across here? OP don’t listen to this person, you’ve done nothing wrong except not being firmer with your loud bossy travel companion.

Pherian · 19/10/2024 09:53

No you’re not being unreasonable.

The polite thing to do would have been telling you in advance that they sleep sounding like a tractor. Giving you the option in advance to pay for your own room.

I encourage you to work on your confidence and get your voice. Don’t let people treat you like 💩 because they will if they think they can.

How are you now ? Hopefully not long home and safe in your own space so you can sleep.

MaitreKarlsson · 19/10/2024 08:47

Hi OP. Hope you're feeling okay now.
Just coming on to recommend a book that might help with assertiveness etc. Called 'A Woman in Your Own Right' by Anne Dickson. It's excellent.
Good for helping to change patterns that you're unknowingly stuck in and which aren't helping you move forward in your life. There are also assertiveness courses online. Good luck x

CosyLemur · 19/10/2024 08:36

HowDidYouGuess · 16/10/2024 01:02

Perhaps you're just not well matched for vacationing.

You were nervous about flying, you're a light sleeper, you couldn't sleep despite having earplugs, you lacked confidence to verbalize your wants/needs, the excercise/exertion/lack of sleep exhausted you on a very short trip. This is just what you directly identified.

Snoring is annoying but there isn't anything he can do about it...does sound like he wasn't patient on the last night certainly...but only you know if you are fun to travel with. Perhaps don't write the friendship off but do consider if you have the same travel/vacation styles.

This! I don't think if I was the friend I'd be inviting the OP on holiday again.

laraitopbanana · 18/10/2024 07:32

MsPavlichenko · 17/10/2024 19:50

This is bad advice. You don’t know he’s safe, and he is not a real friend. As others have said, he’s been grooming you. The Freedom Programme is the way forward as I and others have suggested.

That is your advice indeed 👌🏼 I will stick to mine thank you.

op, get home and have a think on this “friendship”. One thing for sure, I think you should heal before putting yourself in this position for both sake. You need to be sure on how you read the situations or the impact triggers have on your perception. For both sake.

TheGoogleMum · 18/10/2024 07:22

You need to make it clear you are never sharing a room with him again as you couldn't sleep with his snoring!

Jack80 · 18/10/2024 07:17

You need to say that he didn't need to take the tone he did and you have had to cope with his snoring. I would have left him to have a walk and said you were going for a nap because he kept you up most of the night. You need separate rooms if you can bare to go away with him again.

pinkgrevillea · 18/10/2024 07:15

Such a great post from DaisyChains

It is amazing how quickly some men can change when challenged. I have only seen it a few times - someone is as nice as pie as long as you are smiling and nodding along but the moment you do something that challenges their authority its like they turn into a totally different person.

That is what is disturbing about this situation - how he became so different, and is now probably sulking because he didn't want to show that side of himself, perhaps.

Sceptical123 · 18/10/2024 07:09

What’s he been like since OP? Any more contact?

ExhaustedAbroad1 · 18/10/2024 07:08

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Gosh, thank you so much for your invaluable insight. Life changing 🙄

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MsPavlichenko · 17/10/2024 19:50

This is bad advice. You don’t know he’s safe, and he is not a real friend. As others have said, he’s been grooming you. The Freedom Programme is the way forward as I and others have suggested.

Agreed. The description of this man’s behaviour is giving some of us the shivers. OP and clearly some of the PPs are oblivious to these warning signs. Hopefully they can be learned.

Savingthehedgehogs · 17/10/2024 20:50

I used to think I was an optimistic, positive person that trusts other people ( why wouldn’t I?) I realised my inability to notice the signals other people could see. I was missing the radar antenna due to my abusive childhood,

What feels like an open nature can be an inability to protect yourself fully. Not looking at ulterior motives is a classic sign of this. It wouldn’t occur to me either so I am not blaming you, but why is he paying for everything? I am not suggesting it is romantic based but what is he buying? Why the investment? Does he like to call the shots?

To me this sounds cynical but I realise no one pays for stuff without reason.

I think he treated you badly, and you were more vulnerable than you realise. In a hotel room, thousands of miles from home. Without the resources to go elsewhere and a support network. I am glad you are home safeky, but honestly please look after yourself. This could have had a different ending. As you can probably see in hindsight.

JohnTheRevelator · 17/10/2024 20:33

Jesus Christ! He sounds like a selfish,over-entitled man.

MsPavlichenko · 17/10/2024 19:50

laraitopbanana · 17/10/2024 18:57

Hi op,

I am so sorry this is happening. Please take some rest and reassess tomorrow. If he is your friend, he will listen you out…just maybe wait to see him next time. Then over a coffee tell him what you told us.

You are safe. He is a friend even if grumpy. You are going home soon. Hang on.

Good luck 🌺

This is bad advice. You don’t know he’s safe, and he is not a real friend. As others have said, he’s been grooming you. The Freedom Programme is the way forward as I and others have suggested.

ConstanceM · 17/10/2024 19:37

I think your slept through the fact he booked twin beds thus sharing the same room, as soon as I read that I thought this would raise a few issues. He's obviously an A hole as well, some people, yes men and women have no social awareness around their behaviours. I was always taught 'put yourself in someone else's shoes' and see their perspective. Your friend hasn't got a clue.....and probably never well. He'll probably thinks it's been an amazing holiday and ask you again..

laraitopbanana · 17/10/2024 18:57

Hi op,

I am so sorry this is happening. Please take some rest and reassess tomorrow. If he is your friend, he will listen you out…just maybe wait to see him next time. Then over a coffee tell him what you told us.

You are safe. He is a friend even if grumpy. You are going home soon. Hang on.

Good luck 🌺

WotsitsMadeIn1927 · 17/10/2024 18:29

He knew he snored badly but still booked a room to share? And then had the cheek to get angry with you?
Im sorry you have trauma OP because you definitely didn’t deserve how he treated you and he needed to be told he’s being a selfish unreasonable bastard.

Take care 💐💜

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/10/2024 15:15

AlertCat · 16/10/2024 21:21

Great post 👏

Agreed!

MsPavlichenko · 17/10/2024 12:12

Hankunamatata · 17/10/2024 08:23

Hi. Veteran traveller. Earplugs - wax ones. Then sleep headphones on too playing white noise

You are completely missing the issue here, it’s not simply an issue of noise control.

Hankunamatata · 17/10/2024 08:23

Hi. Veteran traveller. Earplugs - wax ones. Then sleep headphones on too playing white noise

Candleabra · 17/10/2024 08:13

He paid for everything? Another example of exerting his power. It’s not the behaviour of someone in an equal relationship. He’s dominating you.

DaisysChains · 17/10/2024 08:11

You’re welcome @ExhaustedAbroad1

I’m only going from your posts and my own experience, which is of course going to be on alert for abusive tactics (esp as ex has groomed others to continue his abuse for him)

reflecting on everything you know as the person going through your own situation and leaving a space open for different viewpoints as you’ve done by posting here is a healthy thing I think

we get caught up with protecting the man’s reputation/image and I’m sure partly that’s because we really really want them to be ‘one of the good guys’ and not just the same as all the other abusers who manipulated us

this holiday was very horrible for you

consider that plus all the responses on thread, plus more data from the rest of your relationship history, plus whatever his behaviour is like now/in future if you continue to be in touch

each thing will shine a light from a different angle to help you see more clearly

then you choose your own path 💐