Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

This video shouldn’t be on his phone. It shouldn't even exist!

164 replies

SpaceyChapman · 15/10/2024 09:45

My DH has just returned from a meditation retreat / adventure holiday abroad. While there he met and befriended a rather nice younger lady. There is no denying that she is conventionally beautiful and seems to have many personal qualities that people might find attractive in a woman. At the very least I can say that she is independent, athletic, adventurous, and seems to have been good company.

As DH was going through the videos of their trip, I noticed him watching one particular video over and over. Actually, it was maybe only like three times - and not in a creepy way - but he did have a sort of happy, contented look that I recognised. It was the way he used to look at me a long time ago. At first glance this is just a normal video of everyone in their group, except it’s not really is it? It pans quickly passed the backs of all their heads, passed people having a chat in the corner, and then the camera settles on the real subject of the video. It is undeniable that the subject of this particular video is her. She knows the camera is on her, looks directly at it, and smiles.

My DH is not some old perv (he’s incredible) and she seemed more than happy to be the star of the video. I am not accusing her of anything, but why would DH even film a video like this? Why would anyone? It’s not a video of the group. It's not a video of the scenery. It’s obviously a video of one person, looking radiant. Why watch it back, but why even record it?

AIBU to feel maybe just a little bit insecure? This video shouldn’t even exist.

OP posts:
LBFseBrom · 19/10/2024 06:54

I'm wondering why your husband was going abroad on a meditation adventure trip without you. Is that usual? I can understand a couple of days away for a meeting to do with work or something, or a sporting event, that happens, but what you describe sounds like an idyllic escape from mundane life. I'm sure most of us would all like to do that at times but generally don't without our spouses and it's not always practical or even affordable.

If he goes on things like that he is bound to meet people with whom he bonds and will remember with affection.

I don't know what to think, I suggest you talk to him and find out where he's at.

whatsappdoc · 19/10/2024 06:53

He's so infatuated he's actually watching it in front of you. Why not just watch it while he's out or locked in the bathroom? Yuk.

tuvamoodyson · 19/10/2024 05:21

Well, he’s not doing a very good job of hiding it from her…she’s seen him look ‘longingly’ at it 3 times! And what is ‘neck down alopecia?’

timetodecide2345 · 19/10/2024 03:09

You sound lovely op but also naive. Yoga retreats are well known hook up opportunities. It provides a great excuse, it's physical, people can get personal very quickly. There he is filming another woman, hiding the film from you. He's incredible alright. An incredible bullshitter!

NiftyKoala · 19/10/2024 01:28

Your husband is the only one out of line here.

ReshyAmina · 18/10/2024 18:38

SantasRubiksCube · 16/10/2024 12:26

I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty, but everyone who is blindly defending the woman who the OPs husband fancies, how do you know nothing happened between them on this trip? The only ones who know are the OPs husband and the woman. Yes he may just be being really insensitive to the OP by being abit starry-eyed over this woman or for all we know he's already spent the night with her on this trip and is pining over her now he's back home to reality.

There is no indication whatsoever that this lady has done anything wrong so why blame her for simply existing?

MsDogLady · 18/10/2024 17:59

SpaceyChapman · 16/10/2024 09:20

I feel like this is all really petty now but I have such a knot in my stomach about the whole thing. You have all been great though. Such good advice, if only I was brave enough.

Do you mean brave enough to confront him?

@SpaceyChapman, your peace of mind is of primary importance. Sitting by and swallowing your distress is extremely corrosive, so I urge you to address what you’ve observed and how you feel about it.

You know your H. Alarm bells are ringing because his boundaries have weakened for this woman. He’s enchanted and has chosen to nurture and fuel his infatuation by videoing her for future gazing/fantasizing and by attempting to engage her once home with photos of himself cooking (her special interest or profession). There’s a good chance they will move to private messaging.

He is massively disrespecting you and your marriage, @SpaceyChapman. Express your discomfort/assert your boundaries before this goes further.

TheLever · 16/10/2024 12:53

@SantasRubiksCube no it wasn’t that. OP was very distracted by how attractive this lady was and did not take it well in the first thread. Being attractive isn’t a crime and there is no way of knowing the lady did anything wrong. She may have just been polite and tolerant. It’s not worth focusing on her because OP has no info about her or her intentions, she is married to the man who is upsetting her. Also, if he cheated on OP, would this woman even know he was married? See you can’t start focusing on the female it is a waste of energy unless you know any of the info about her. That’s speculation and assumption, what OP does know is that her DH appears to have a crush on another woman

PinkyFlamingo · 16/10/2024 12:35

I still get the feeling you are blaming her ...for what who knows. And you say he's not an old perve, I think that's exactly what he is.

SantasRubiksCube · 16/10/2024 12:26

I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty, but everyone who is blindly defending the woman who the OPs husband fancies, how do you know nothing happened between them on this trip? The only ones who know are the OPs husband and the woman. Yes he may just be being really insensitive to the OP by being abit starry-eyed over this woman or for all we know he's already spent the night with her on this trip and is pining over her now he's back home to reality.

EverybodyLovesString · 16/10/2024 10:35

Everything about this screams infatuation at the very least. He’s mooning over her photos and taking up new hobbies to catch her attention.This is so disrespectful to you and your relationship. Be prepared for him to say you’re crazy if you confront him.

TipsyJoker · 16/10/2024 10:12

SpaceyChapman · 16/10/2024 09:18

They have a Whatsapp group, but I wouldn't know about any social media. I do know that DH has suddenly got very keen on cooking, and he's shared the odd photo of that kind of thing with the group. He had only expressed a vague interest before the trip. As far as I can tell, she was the only "chef", so I'm convinced he's only doing it so that she will share her own photos back, or that he's trying to appear more adventurous when it comes to food than he really is.

He’s trying to impress her by doing something he knows she has a special interest in. You need to get your hands round this immediately. This is pure affair development material.

cuddlebear · 16/10/2024 09:36

What would happen if you took the piss and referred to “Dave’s Crush”?

Oh you’re cooking again to impress your holiday crush! That kind of thing.

SpaceyChapman · 16/10/2024 09:20

SpaceyChapman · 16/10/2024 09:18

They have a Whatsapp group, but I wouldn't know about any social media. I do know that DH has suddenly got very keen on cooking, and he's shared the odd photo of that kind of thing with the group. He had only expressed a vague interest before the trip. As far as I can tell, she was the only "chef", so I'm convinced he's only doing it so that she will share her own photos back, or that he's trying to appear more adventurous when it comes to food than he really is.

I feel like this is all really petty now but I have such a knot in my stomach about the whole thing. You have all been great though. Such good advice, if only I was brave enough.

OP posts:
SpaceyChapman · 16/10/2024 09:18

Alina3 · 15/10/2024 10:10

You are asking 'why?' because you're afraid to answer the question yourself.

You know why. He has at least a crush on her, and is caught up in the giddy 'wow everything about her is amazing' phase. He probably took the video so once the trip ended he could look back and reminisce over it and have personal material of her to watch. It's pretty creepy and extremely disrespectful to you, his wife.

I would be very wary about this relationship. I'm assuming they have added one another on social media and have kept in touch since the trip?

They have a Whatsapp group, but I wouldn't know about any social media. I do know that DH has suddenly got very keen on cooking, and he's shared the odd photo of that kind of thing with the group. He had only expressed a vague interest before the trip. As far as I can tell, she was the only "chef", so I'm convinced he's only doing it so that she will share her own photos back, or that he's trying to appear more adventurous when it comes to food than he really is.

OP posts:
SpaceyChapman · 15/10/2024 23:29

TrishM80 · 15/10/2024 23:12

Seriously, how can you tell if someone is "looking longingly"?! 😂

It is a certain look. Like one might look at a cheese toasty*

*I'm possibly a bit drunk

OP posts:
TrishM80 · 15/10/2024 23:12

Seriously, how can you tell if someone is "looking longingly"?! 😂

SpaceyChapman · 15/10/2024 23:04

ReshyAmina · 15/10/2024 22:48

It was deleted as OP was quite nasty about the lady in question who has done nothing wrong apart from exist. The same nastiness wasn’t shared for her husband.

I was nasty. I apologise. I have explained myself in other posts above.

OP posts:
Mischance · 15/10/2024 22:59

My DH has just returned from a meditation retreat / adventure holiday abroad.

These sort of "retreats" are all about "finding yourself" - a concept that can be very troublesome as it is so self-indulgent and often simply means finding someone else.

It is entirely normal for people to be attracted to people other than their spouses - we are all only human. But these sort of retreats really do attract this sort of thing. I have seen it all before - Open University summer schools are another culprit!

The important thing is what we do about it. Your OH needs to know that you are offended (quite rightly) by him mooning (in the old sense!) over this video and he needs to get his head out of the retreat mode and back into real life, where he is obliged to have consideration for your feelings. Confront him with it - tell him you are hurt by it and don't be fobbed off with bland protestations of innocence. It may well be that they did not have sex, but it is clear he would have liked to. Tell him you have found this all very destabilising and don't let him tell you you are being over-sensitive - most women would be put out by it. Stand your ground.

It is so easy for men to be bowled over by this and forget the reality of life - to forget it is you who follows him into the toilet when he has stunk the place out; and it is probably you who washes his socks! They get locked into this fantasy land and forget the relationship that is the solid basis of their life.

This is tricky to negotiate, but you are right to be concerned.

JesusOnAYamaha · 15/10/2024 22:59

Terrribletwos · 15/10/2024 15:37

Where are these? I want to go.

I think you have to eat lentils.

minipie · 15/10/2024 22:57

Going on this retreat sounds like textbook mid life crisis and this is part of that.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/10/2024 22:50

It reminds me a bit of the guy filming Keira knightly in love actually. Vomit.

ReshyAmina · 15/10/2024 22:48

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/10/2024 14:47

Ps can someone link the original thread?

It was deleted as OP was quite nasty about the lady in question who has done nothing wrong apart from exist. The same nastiness wasn’t shared for her husband.

MsDogLady · 15/10/2024 22:44

Yes, that would be horrible to see.

How are you going to approach this?

SpaceyChapman · 15/10/2024 22:25

MsDogLady · 15/10/2024 21:34

Of course you feel anxious and unsettled, @SpaceyChapman. This was not the type of ‘adventure’ you envisioned him having when you waved him off.

He developed an infatuation and is acting on it. Filming this woman to fantasize and perv over both in private and right in front of you is truly beyond the pale.

Is it possible that they actually met online before attending the retreat? Do you know if they’ve been chatting since he returned?

Spacey, I would confront him and address his appalling behavior immediately. This is so wrong on many levels.

I don't think he was perving. It was worse. He was looking, longingly.

OP posts: