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This video shouldn’t be on his phone. It shouldn't even exist!

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SpaceyChapman · 15/10/2024 09:45

My DH has just returned from a meditation retreat / adventure holiday abroad. While there he met and befriended a rather nice younger lady. There is no denying that she is conventionally beautiful and seems to have many personal qualities that people might find attractive in a woman. At the very least I can say that she is independent, athletic, adventurous, and seems to have been good company.

As DH was going through the videos of their trip, I noticed him watching one particular video over and over. Actually, it was maybe only like three times - and not in a creepy way - but he did have a sort of happy, contented look that I recognised. It was the way he used to look at me a long time ago. At first glance this is just a normal video of everyone in their group, except it’s not really is it? It pans quickly passed the backs of all their heads, passed people having a chat in the corner, and then the camera settles on the real subject of the video. It is undeniable that the subject of this particular video is her. She knows the camera is on her, looks directly at it, and smiles.

My DH is not some old perv (he’s incredible) and she seemed more than happy to be the star of the video. I am not accusing her of anything, but why would DH even film a video like this? Why would anyone? It’s not a video of the group. It's not a video of the scenery. It’s obviously a video of one person, looking radiant. Why watch it back, but why even record it?

AIBU to feel maybe just a little bit insecure? This video shouldn’t even exist.

OP posts:
ReshyAmina · 19/10/2024 09:05

BustyLaRoux · 19/10/2024 08:33

The way you speak about this woman isn’t particularly nice. “Conventionally beautiful” (implying she is beautiful but only in a conventional way as though both complimenting and doing her down at the same time).

“Seems to have many personal qualities that people might find attractive….” (As though other people might find her attractive but making the point that you yourself don’t. That’s how that comes across).

“She seemed more than happy to be the star of the video” (and?? Why is that relevant?)

To be clear this woman has not done anything wrong. You come across as being forced to acknowledge she seems nice/attractive to other people, but not to you with slightly barbed comments about her. As though she is partly to blame for turning your husband’s head. She hasn’t done anything wrong! She can enjoy being filmed. Or not. Maybe it’s an act. Maybe secretly she hates being filmed but is trying to look confident. Who knows. It doesn’t matter as you don’t know anything about her. And whether she likes it or not, it is YOUR “incredible” husband who has been filming her! Surely save your barbed comments for him. Enough with the woman bashing!

You should have seen how OP described her in her first thread - very cruel which I’m pleased everyone picked up on so OP had it deleted.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 09:02

Cheeseandcrackers40 · 19/10/2024 08:54

This is such BS. Id be seriously questioning my relationship if my DH decided I wasn't allowed to go on trips that are really good for my wellbeing. I've never seen anything untoward going on at a yoga retreat.

Read the thread.
I responded to a poster who asked why the OP 'allowed' her husband to go away for a week
My response was to ask this poster what they would do if their husband tried to stop them going away for a week, be that at an apparently sex-fuelled yoga retreat, or boring Bognor

MarvellousMonsters · 19/10/2024 08:59

SpaceyChapman · 15/10/2024 09:45

My DH has just returned from a meditation retreat / adventure holiday abroad. While there he met and befriended a rather nice younger lady. There is no denying that she is conventionally beautiful and seems to have many personal qualities that people might find attractive in a woman. At the very least I can say that she is independent, athletic, adventurous, and seems to have been good company.

As DH was going through the videos of their trip, I noticed him watching one particular video over and over. Actually, it was maybe only like three times - and not in a creepy way - but he did have a sort of happy, contented look that I recognised. It was the way he used to look at me a long time ago. At first glance this is just a normal video of everyone in their group, except it’s not really is it? It pans quickly passed the backs of all their heads, passed people having a chat in the corner, and then the camera settles on the real subject of the video. It is undeniable that the subject of this particular video is her. She knows the camera is on her, looks directly at it, and smiles.

My DH is not some old perv (he’s incredible) and she seemed more than happy to be the star of the video. I am not accusing her of anything, but why would DH even film a video like this? Why would anyone? It’s not a video of the group. It's not a video of the scenery. It’s obviously a video of one person, looking radiant. Why watch it back, but why even record it?

AIBU to feel maybe just a little bit insecure? This video shouldn’t even exist.

He definitely has a crush on her, which is something we can all fall prey to, married or single. She's attractive and interesting, she possibly reminds him of you when you were first together, and he's nostalgic for those times. This, in its self is harmless.

But, has he acted on it? Has he crossed any lines and become emotionally or physically intimate with her? If the answer to any of these questions is yes, you have a problem. If it's no, then it'll fade with time and become a bump in the road.

Talk to him, don't accuse him of anything, just explain to him what you've explained here. Go from there.

Orrinocc0 · 19/10/2024 08:58

Are you concerned something happened between them?

Laiste · 19/10/2024 08:56

Oh my goodness - It doesn't really matter where he met her or what words you did or did not use to describe her, if he is an old perv or not a perv, or are retreats 'shag fests'.

Lets stick to the facts here - your husband is sitting at home mooning over videos and pictures of a woman he met on holiday and is now spending time doing things to impress her and stay in contact with her online.

I'd be fucking angry and i'd tell him so.

His response would determine the outcome.

Cheeseandcrackers40 · 19/10/2024 08:54

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 08:31

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have you been reading a Jilly Cooper novel??
Ffs, if you wanted to go on a yoga retreat and your OH said 'no, they are bonk-fests', you'd be defending your right to go where the fuck you wanted, bonk-fest or not

This is such BS. Id be seriously questioning my relationship if my DH decided I wasn't allowed to go on trips that are really good for my wellbeing. I've never seen anything untoward going on at a yoga retreat.

Cheeseandcrackers40 · 19/10/2024 08:51

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 15/10/2024 10:44

Ugh. The look reserved for you, for your love, is now being directed at someone else. How absolutely hurtful. I don't know if I could come back from the unease and hurt of that, personally. My friend who's done some yoga retreats/wellness stays said they are a hotbed of infidelity, but of course that's purely anecdotal.

My exh had a profile pic of him and his "best girlie friend" when we first met, embracing and looking like a couple... She definitely doesn't see him that way, but she's more than happy to take the ego boost of knowing he is obsessed with her. I heartily wish I'd never bothered with him after seeing him give her "that look",and he was only a single man at the time, not bloody married, like your H! Please don't contort yourself in any way yo get him to "pick" you. You should be enough just being who you are.

Whatever you ask though, he will deny it. I would have my radar switched completely on, and I will never accept being second best to a crush ever ever again. It destroys your confidence.

Really?!! I've been on several and never seen/heard/done anything inappropriate. In fact they've been really beneficial to both my wellbeing and family life.

Runskiyoga · 19/10/2024 08:44

Being in a group on a trip is a powerful bond. We can all get infatuated, craving to be noticed, to flirt, to be an adult separate from our responsibilities in life. The wise don't feed it, step away from the lingering looks or the texting.
I'd say it's more about himself, less about her, and if there's no planned meet ups or texting outside the group, the feelings will pass.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 08:42

BustyLaRoux · 19/10/2024 08:39

I’ve done these retreats. No bonking. Definitely not a “bonk-fest”!!!! 🤣

Tbh, I don't see how a lot of lycra-ed, sweaty camel-toes or meat and 2 veg waving around in weird positions is remotely sexually attractive, but maybe I have different tastes!

valentinka31 · 19/10/2024 08:41

well he's in love with the girl, that's why. I'm very sorry OP. Personally I wouldn't have wanted my DH to go off on a yoga retreat like that, no way. And you have no idea what happened.

BustyLaRoux · 19/10/2024 08:39

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 08:31

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have you been reading a Jilly Cooper novel??
Ffs, if you wanted to go on a yoga retreat and your OH said 'no, they are bonk-fests', you'd be defending your right to go where the fuck you wanted, bonk-fest or not

I’ve done these retreats. No bonking. Definitely not a “bonk-fest”!!!! 🤣

BustyLaRoux · 19/10/2024 08:37

SantasRubiksCube · 16/10/2024 12:26

I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty, but everyone who is blindly defending the woman who the OPs husband fancies, how do you know nothing happened between them on this trip? The only ones who know are the OPs husband and the woman. Yes he may just be being really insensitive to the OP by being abit starry-eyed over this woman or for all we know he's already spent the night with her on this trip and is pining over her now he's back home to reality.

Or maybe she isn’t interested in him at all and thinks he’s a bit creepy. We don’t know anything about this woman.

BustyLaRoux · 19/10/2024 08:33

SpaceyChapman · 15/10/2024 09:45

My DH has just returned from a meditation retreat / adventure holiday abroad. While there he met and befriended a rather nice younger lady. There is no denying that she is conventionally beautiful and seems to have many personal qualities that people might find attractive in a woman. At the very least I can say that she is independent, athletic, adventurous, and seems to have been good company.

As DH was going through the videos of their trip, I noticed him watching one particular video over and over. Actually, it was maybe only like three times - and not in a creepy way - but he did have a sort of happy, contented look that I recognised. It was the way he used to look at me a long time ago. At first glance this is just a normal video of everyone in their group, except it’s not really is it? It pans quickly passed the backs of all their heads, passed people having a chat in the corner, and then the camera settles on the real subject of the video. It is undeniable that the subject of this particular video is her. She knows the camera is on her, looks directly at it, and smiles.

My DH is not some old perv (he’s incredible) and she seemed more than happy to be the star of the video. I am not accusing her of anything, but why would DH even film a video like this? Why would anyone? It’s not a video of the group. It's not a video of the scenery. It’s obviously a video of one person, looking radiant. Why watch it back, but why even record it?

AIBU to feel maybe just a little bit insecure? This video shouldn’t even exist.

The way you speak about this woman isn’t particularly nice. “Conventionally beautiful” (implying she is beautiful but only in a conventional way as though both complimenting and doing her down at the same time).

“Seems to have many personal qualities that people might find attractive….” (As though other people might find her attractive but making the point that you yourself don’t. That’s how that comes across).

“She seemed more than happy to be the star of the video” (and?? Why is that relevant?)

To be clear this woman has not done anything wrong. You come across as being forced to acknowledge she seems nice/attractive to other people, but not to you with slightly barbed comments about her. As though she is partly to blame for turning your husband’s head. She hasn’t done anything wrong! She can enjoy being filmed. Or not. Maybe it’s an act. Maybe secretly she hates being filmed but is trying to look confident. Who knows. It doesn’t matter as you don’t know anything about her. And whether she likes it or not, it is YOUR “incredible” husband who has been filming her! Surely save your barbed comments for him. Enough with the woman bashing!

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 08:31

User100000000000 · 15/10/2024 10:55

I'm afraid these 'retreats' are well known as being essentially bonk fests and are overwhelmingly attended by single adults, so I'm amazed and frankly mystified that you were ok with your DH going tbh.

I'd be packing his bags. You do not need proof.

Edited

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have you been reading a Jilly Cooper novel??
Ffs, if you wanted to go on a yoga retreat and your OH said 'no, they are bonk-fests', you'd be defending your right to go where the fuck you wanted, bonk-fest or not

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 08:26

Alalalala · 19/10/2024 08:18

@ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood It’s obvious what it means - it means if the OP leaves it and doesn’t voice her concerns then the massive crush he has will have time to flourish and develop.

OP he’s utterly infatuated with her. Address it.

Edited

Oh, I see. Of course it will manifest into a full-blown affair. Because looking at something always manifests into a thing

Namechangetheyarewatching · 19/10/2024 08:23

Wasn't a trip to Petra was it?

Alalalala · 19/10/2024 08:18

@ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood It’s obvious what it means - it means if the OP leaves it and doesn’t voice her concerns then the massive crush he has will have time to flourish and develop.

OP he’s utterly infatuated with her. Address it.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 08:18

LBFseBrom · 19/10/2024 06:54

I'm wondering why your husband was going abroad on a meditation adventure trip without you. Is that usual? I can understand a couple of days away for a meeting to do with work or something, or a sporting event, that happens, but what you describe sounds like an idyllic escape from mundane life. I'm sure most of us would all like to do that at times but generally don't without our spouses and it's not always practical or even affordable.

If he goes on things like that he is bound to meet people with whom he bonds and will remember with affection.

I don't know what to think, I suggest you talk to him and find out where he's at.

Do you not let your husband go away without you? Are you a Victorian?
If a man wrote that opening sentence, there would be an outcry!

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 19/10/2024 08:16

bracemyselfagain · 15/10/2024 10:06

No, you're not being unreasonable to feel insecure.
His head has clearly been turned.

Confront the situation head on; this will only manifest and get worse.

Confront the situation head on; this will only manifest and get worse

What does this mean??

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 19/10/2024 08:07

Yes it’s human to be attracted to other people but “incredible” men do not disrespect their wives

gladrefrain · 19/10/2024 07:55

LBFseBrom · 19/10/2024 06:54

I'm wondering why your husband was going abroad on a meditation adventure trip without you. Is that usual? I can understand a couple of days away for a meeting to do with work or something, or a sporting event, that happens, but what you describe sounds like an idyllic escape from mundane life. I'm sure most of us would all like to do that at times but generally don't without our spouses and it's not always practical or even affordable.

If he goes on things like that he is bound to meet people with whom he bonds and will remember with affection.

I don't know what to think, I suggest you talk to him and find out where he's at.

It’s perfectly normal for people to go on trips relating to their hobbies which aren’t shared by their spouse. Some hobbies require trips away to partake in events. Some are even in idyllic locations!

tuvamoodyson · 19/10/2024 07:48

LBFseBrom · 19/10/2024 06:54

I'm wondering why your husband was going abroad on a meditation adventure trip without you. Is that usual? I can understand a couple of days away for a meeting to do with work or something, or a sporting event, that happens, but what you describe sounds like an idyllic escape from mundane life. I'm sure most of us would all like to do that at times but generally don't without our spouses and it's not always practical or even affordable.

If he goes on things like that he is bound to meet people with whom he bonds and will remember with affection.

I don't know what to think, I suggest you talk to him and find out where he's at.

There’s another thread on here from a woman who has just come back from a Wellness retreat without her spouse/children…so, it happens 🤷‍♀️

Fiestytiger · 19/10/2024 07:41

I think I’d be going into investigation mode op. Before raising it with him. If his infatuation carries on you know you have a problem. She may not even be interested it may be all him. But it seems his head has turned.

gladrefrain · 19/10/2024 07:36

Yoga retreats are well known hook up opportunities. It provides a great excuse, it's physical, people can get personal very quickly

The middle aged men hitting on younger women at spiritual things that I mentioned above? Yup, alternative spirituality things are great stomping grounds for these men as the required vibe at these events is love and connection. Which means the younger women can’t just tell these men to fuck off or freeze them out. The have to reply with smiles and welcomes.

gladrefrain · 19/10/2024 07:30

I go to quite a few ‘alternative spiritualility’ type things OP, and the middle aged men there are exactly like any other. They ignore the middle aged women and chase after the younger, pretty women.

Your H must have felt like the top dog if he is the one that won her attention.