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To think these cholesterol values are very bad?

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AtDeathsDoor · 14/10/2024 22:32

Cholesterol level 8.26 mmol/L
LDL cholesterol level 6.04 mmol/L
HDL cholesterol level 1.27 mmol/L
non HDL cholesterol level 6.99 mmol/L
cholesterol/HDL ratio 6.5 mmol/mmol

Should I be seriously worried about these values?
I’m ok about dropping down dead but I don’t want to be incapacitated
I’m mid fifties and obese.

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Comtesse · 15/10/2024 19:28

Exactly! Cheap, easy, fast, tasty, pretty good for you Flowers

soupfiend · 15/10/2024 19:27

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 19:24

I have been wondering about starting Mounjaro but not sure if it is recommended for people with eating disorders. I’m pretty sure I would almost stop eating on that but maybe that would be healthier.

Do you mean an eating disorder where you restrict your food too much?

Im not sure, that isnt my area of expertise

At the moment then, focus on inclusion, not exclusion. For someone in your position its difficult and frightening to talk about cutting this and that out, include the good foods, over time it may lessen your need for the ones which are not so nutritionally dense

I dont actually think there is anything wrong with ready meals or ready pre prepared foods, particularly someone in your position who wants the thought taken out of it. You could do a big shop, a weeks worth of lunches and dinners, just stick em in the oven, or your bag for work for lunch, thats them sorted. Pick ones that are more vegetable and proteiny based or with good grains in them.

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 19:25

Comtesse · 15/10/2024 19:22

Scrambled eggs and wholemeal toast make a nice breakfast or lunch or dinner and take about 5 mins flat.

Come on mate - you deserve to eat ok food not just crappy sweets.

Thanks. could manage that if I microwave the eggs

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AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 19:24

soupfiend · 15/10/2024 19:17

Is money an issue?

If not, you can buy better ready meals, no thinking required, ones that are higher in protein, actually thinking about it Aldi and Lidl do a nice range of protein ready meals, still not very cost effective but that might not be your focus right now

Have you also thought about medication for the weight loss, this might not be your thing but can support with that sort of compulsive craving you seem to have.

Unfortunately SSRIs are notorious for giving cravings, GP will deny that though, but they seem to provoke the need to eat fairly large amount of carbs and sugary things, in my experience and from what Ive read extensively about them.

I have been wondering about starting Mounjaro but not sure if it is recommended for people with eating disorders. I’m pretty sure I would almost stop eating on that but maybe that would be healthier.

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Comtesse · 15/10/2024 19:22

Scrambled eggs and wholemeal toast make a nice breakfast or lunch or dinner and take about 5 mins flat.

Come on mate - you deserve to eat ok food not just crappy sweets.

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 19:20

Havalona · 15/10/2024 19:17

You seem to be deeply depressed bless you, and eating the sugary stuff is a comfort. I get it.

I think you might need another GP appointment, or if, as you say you have PMI then make a private appointment and be referred for counselling and a dietician. Your citalopram meds may not be working as well as they should or used to (that can happen), so a change of drug might be just what you need.

Get rolling straight away, eat your snickers until you get professional help to stop. All the know it alls and holier than thou folk here are not helping you as I'd guess you are overwhelmed with guilt and disgust at yourself. That can be turned around, but I don't think you can do it alone and it won't be quick either.

Wishing you the best.

Thank you, that is so kind

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soupfiend · 15/10/2024 19:17

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 19:11

It is all true. I don’t want to be incapacitated but it is difficult to care enough to change when life is so bleak.
I don’t have the motivation to cook anything so I live on supermarket sandwiches, ready meals and chocolate/biscuits/cakes/crisps.
Does anyone have suggestions for healthy meals I could have with minimal preparation required.

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Is money an issue?

If not, you can buy better ready meals, no thinking required, ones that are higher in protein, actually thinking about it Aldi and Lidl do a nice range of protein ready meals, still not very cost effective but that might not be your focus right now

Have you also thought about medication for the weight loss, this might not be your thing but can support with that sort of compulsive craving you seem to have.

Unfortunately SSRIs are notorious for giving cravings, GP will deny that though, but they seem to provoke the need to eat fairly large amount of carbs and sugary things, in my experience and from what Ive read extensively about them.

Havalona · 15/10/2024 19:17

You seem to be deeply depressed bless you, and eating the sugary stuff is a comfort. I get it.

I think you might need another GP appointment, or if, as you say you have PMI then make a private appointment and be referred for counselling and a dietician. Your citalopram meds may not be working as well as they should or used to (that can happen), so a change of drug might be just what you need.

Get rolling straight away, eat your snickers until you get professional help to stop. All the know it alls and holier than thou folk here are not helping you as I'd guess you are overwhelmed with guilt and disgust at yourself. That can be turned around, but I don't think you can do it alone and it won't be quick either.

Wishing you the best.

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 19:13

GoofyGoldie · 15/10/2024 19:03

I have stage 4 cancer, type 2 diabetes & recently started statins for high cholesterol. I'm also obese.

The pharmacist at my gp has been brilliant. She has given me much more time than the gp could - at least 30min appointments when we have had a lot to go through. She spent ages finding a cream for my lips on prescription when all the skin peeled off them due to chemo. She really was so kind & helpful.

Don't worry about seeing the pharmacist rather than the gp. In my experience they are great.

I’m so sorry to hear you are going through such a tough time. It’s great that the pharmacist is being really supportive. xx

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AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 19:11

NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/10/2024 19:02

Keep eating eight Snickers a day and it won't be for long. That would then be added to the other lengthy ways of suffering - you can lose legs and have permanent nerve pain due to complications of high cholesterol as well. And strokes are hugely, hugely painful and unpleasant even when you don't sustain severe permanent damage from them, according to my friend who has had three this year.

Your life is your choice, but if this is all true, you're currently thinking it would all be quick and easy, when the reality is likely to be long, drawn out and excruciatingly painful.

It is all true. I don’t want to be incapacitated but it is difficult to care enough to change when life is so bleak.
I don’t have the motivation to cook anything so I live on supermarket sandwiches, ready meals and chocolate/biscuits/cakes/crisps.
Does anyone have suggestions for healthy meals I could have with minimal preparation required.

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Brombat · 15/10/2024 19:10

Feeding your gut properly, not Snickers, will help with the depression.

Changing your diet may help your cholesterol a bit...

See the pharmacist, take the meds.

I also said to the doc that I don't mind dropping down dead, she pointed out how bad not dying would be. I take statins now as my cholesterol is defo genetic.

soupfiend · 15/10/2024 19:03

You dont say how obese you are or what your BMI is

Mine was late 40s when I was obese and although I didnt have a diet like yours, mine was a 'healthy' diet, I dont believe it makes any odds to the health of a person if they are covered in fat, inside and out, so I was probably just as unhealthy

My cholesterol was much lower than yours, hovering around 5.6 total but the ratio was high, around 6.2

I have lost a lot of weight, total cholesterol has not gone down but ratio is now about 4.3 from memory, had it emailed me the other day. Im very happy. I do want it under 4.

One of my biggest fears was like you, not dying on the spot, one can deal with that fairly easily! But having a stroke that would leave me immorbile or other disorders and disabilities.

Concentrate on including foods that will support lowering your cholesterol and improving good cholesterol, all the good fats, porridge, good grains, beetroot I believe etc etc

GoofyGoldie · 15/10/2024 19:03

I have stage 4 cancer, type 2 diabetes & recently started statins for high cholesterol. I'm also obese.

The pharmacist at my gp has been brilliant. She has given me much more time than the gp could - at least 30min appointments when we have had a lot to go through. She spent ages finding a cream for my lips on prescription when all the skin peeled off them due to chemo. She really was so kind & helpful.

Don't worry about seeing the pharmacist rather than the gp. In my experience they are great.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/10/2024 19:02

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 18:51

My HbAC1 is 37 which is ok, I think

Keep eating eight Snickers a day and it won't be for long. That would then be added to the other lengthy ways of suffering - you can lose legs and have permanent nerve pain due to complications of high cholesterol as well. And strokes are hugely, hugely painful and unpleasant even when you don't sustain severe permanent damage from them, according to my friend who has had three this year.

Your life is your choice, but if this is all true, you're currently thinking it would all be quick and easy, when the reality is likely to be long, drawn out and excruciatingly painful.

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 18:56

unsync · 15/10/2024 18:53

Are you doing anything about your depression? Getting to the root cause, or at least medicating it could help you to be more proactive about your health and eating. It's hard to do anything when just getting out of bed is a challenge.

Yes, it is hard to give a shit about my health.
I’m on 40mg citalopram but I think I will need to stop that as it shouldn’t be taken with high cholesterol

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unsync · 15/10/2024 18:53

Are you doing anything about your depression? Getting to the root cause, or at least medicating it could help you to be more proactive about your health and eating. It's hard to do anything when just getting out of bed is a challenge.

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 18:51

NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/10/2024 17:25

Have you done a HbAC1 yet? T2 Diabetes is a real risk and the consequences of that are very often a long life of nerve pain, infection, foot issues up to and including amputation and blindness. Chuck in a few strokes for good measure and peripheral artery disease/Critical Limb Ischaemia from the high cholesterol and you will absolutely not get an 'easy' end if you're really eating eight Snickers bars a day.

My HbAC1 is 37 which is ok, I think

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AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 18:50

EinsteinsFineWine · 15/10/2024 17:24

2 snickers is 100g (near as)

2 snickers is 495cal
2 snickers is 49 grams of sugar

So 8 snickers is just under 2000 calories
And just under 200g sugar, which is about 16 1/2 tablespoons of sugar.

I don't get it. Why would you even have 8 snickers in the house? It would be cheaper to just eat 16.7 tablespoons of sugar out of the bag, and less calorific.

Just chuck them out, or take them to a neighbour with kids. Never buy them again; or any chocolate bars in that kind of bulk.

I don't buy flapjacks because I can't be trusted with them, I don't self regulate well. You are obviously the same with chocolate.

Start with eating wholemeal toast and butter instead. Add a slice of cheese. It's no harder and you will get some nutrition at least.

I bought 2 four-packs on the way home.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/10/2024 17:25

AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 17:10

Another 8 snickers today. I just don’t care enough about myself ☹️

Have you done a HbAC1 yet? T2 Diabetes is a real risk and the consequences of that are very often a long life of nerve pain, infection, foot issues up to and including amputation and blindness. Chuck in a few strokes for good measure and peripheral artery disease/Critical Limb Ischaemia from the high cholesterol and you will absolutely not get an 'easy' end if you're really eating eight Snickers bars a day.

EinsteinsFineWine · 15/10/2024 17:24

2 snickers is 100g (near as)

2 snickers is 495cal
2 snickers is 49 grams of sugar

So 8 snickers is just under 2000 calories
And just under 200g sugar, which is about 16 1/2 tablespoons of sugar.

I don't get it. Why would you even have 8 snickers in the house? It would be cheaper to just eat 16.7 tablespoons of sugar out of the bag, and less calorific.

Just chuck them out, or take them to a neighbour with kids. Never buy them again; or any chocolate bars in that kind of bulk.

I don't buy flapjacks because I can't be trusted with them, I don't self regulate well. You are obviously the same with chocolate.

Start with eating wholemeal toast and butter instead. Add a slice of cheese. It's no harder and you will get some nutrition at least.

To think these cholesterol values are very bad?
AtDeathsDoor · 15/10/2024 17:10

Another 8 snickers today. I just don’t care enough about myself ☹️

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AtDeathsDoor · 14/10/2024 23:35

EinsteinsFineWine · 14/10/2024 23:32

Is that real? Bless you.

I am mid 50s and obese too. I know I need in general to avoid simple carbs as I was pretty insulin resistant, constantly crashing after eating, so tired and sluggish I could barely stay awake in the afternoon.

Now I am doing intermittent fasting and feeling much better. I eat in an 8 hour window of about 12-8pm.

Today I had a homemade prawn marie-rose wrap with guacamole and spinach and a bowl of soup for lunch, a gold bar and grapes mid afternoon, and home made chicken soup, sourdough bread, and raspberries and cream for dinner.

I am slowly losing weight but it's feeling less awful that is the big win for me.

Invest in your health. It's so important and it need not be hard. For example, a healthy lunch of scrambled egg with wilted spinach takes 2 mins to cook. You are worth it, you know.

Thank you, that is so kind. It’s hard to care about myself but I definitely don’t want to end up disabled.
Well done for the changes you are making.

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EinsteinsFineWine · 14/10/2024 23:32

AtDeathsDoor · 14/10/2024 23:09

I had 8 snickers bars and 2 bags of crisps for dinner so I guess that isn’t helping 😳

Is that real? Bless you.

I am mid 50s and obese too. I know I need in general to avoid simple carbs as I was pretty insulin resistant, constantly crashing after eating, so tired and sluggish I could barely stay awake in the afternoon.

Now I am doing intermittent fasting and feeling much better. I eat in an 8 hour window of about 12-8pm.

Today I had a homemade prawn marie-rose wrap with guacamole and spinach and a bowl of soup for lunch, a gold bar and grapes mid afternoon, and home made chicken soup, sourdough bread, and raspberries and cream for dinner.

I am slowly losing weight but it's feeling less awful that is the big win for me.

Invest in your health. It's so important and it need not be hard. For example, a healthy lunch of scrambled egg with wilted spinach takes 2 mins to cook. You are worth it, you know.

Codlingmoths · 14/10/2024 23:24

AtDeathsDoor · 14/10/2024 23:09

I had 8 snickers bars and 2 bags of crisps for dinner so I guess that isn’t helping 😳

Picture yourself seriously disabled. Those numbers are high. Now go to the shop and buy fruit, yoghurt, eggs and whole meal toast. Tomorrow morning, choose from that for your breakfast.

Ireolu · 14/10/2024 23:22

Have you had it checked before?? If you have private health cover see a cardiologist.