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I am too old, aren’t it?

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OrangeKettle · 14/10/2024 21:51

I think I know the answer I’ll get from everyone.

I was in an emotionally abusive marriage. I used to read posts on here, with women in a similar situation, and know I should leave, but couldn’t. Eventually I managed to. It was the best thing I ever did. It took me years to realise what had happened and that it wasn’t normal, and to start getting over it.

7 years later, I met someone who is the complete opposite. The kindest, generous, nicest, helpful man ever. Looks after me constantly. We’ve never had a cross word. Hard working, supportive, etc. We now live together too.

I have two children from my first marriage. One is early teens, one is slightly younger.

My partner has no children. He wanted them but has accepted he won’t have any with me. He says he’d rather be with me than not.

I would love another child. I know he would. He would also be a fab dad. Not like my ex.

However…. I am 44. He is 7 years younger. I am in a better situation (mentally) and still very active. I have periods every 28 days. Still ovulate at the “right” time (despite having coil, I still get periods).

But, it would be wrong, wouldn’t it? I’m too old, aren’t I?

OP posts:
SodOffbacktoaibu · 15/10/2024 15:59

I really wouldn't.

How long have you been together?

It'd be a high risk pregnancy. If all goes well and no issues with you or baby, then you'll still be knackered. Babies put a big strain on relationships and this is your relationship with your partner and your existing children and their relationships to each other too.

It could be wonderful but it's a big gamble and one I wouldn't take.

Jen739 · 15/10/2024 15:51

Spondoolie · 15/10/2024 13:57

No idea about you but I wouldn’t- no way. My children are the same age as yours and there is a really fun part of life just about to start for me. Holidays, flexibility, following hobbies, passions with a freedom that we haven’t had for a decade. Your relationship sounds wonderful and you would get to enjoy each other with more time, money and freedom

Thanks for this - I needed to hear it. I'm having my second and last but people ask if we'll have a third. While I can see why some would like more DC, I actually miss my relationship with my DH. Genuinely excited to have dinners out with just us in the future and talk about things other than nappy output and troubleshooting sleeping problems. We have a good marriage but having just one DC (who doesn't sleep) has been testing. We're having ours close together all being well as I can't imagine having another when we're out of nappies and things with our oldest. I appreciate life can get in the way and that's not always an option though for many reasons!

Pilgit · 15/10/2024 14:00

I had a baby at 44. My third and very much an accident. Yes he will have older parents. Yes the pregnancy was bloody hard (but I have a heart condition so....) and yes I am exhausted a lot.of the time but he is the best. He is delightful and he has made my life so much richer. Do it. Life is too short to have regrets. I have enjoyed him so much more - probably because I am older!

I have a friend who was a child of older parents - they were in their 40s. But they are still around now where most of us are losing our younger parents.

Spondoolie · 15/10/2024 13:57

No idea about you but I wouldn’t- no way. My children are the same age as yours and there is a really fun part of life just about to start for me. Holidays, flexibility, following hobbies, passions with a freedom that we haven’t had for a decade. Your relationship sounds wonderful and you would get to enjoy each other with more time, money and freedom

CecilyP · 15/10/2024 13:54

Jen739 · 15/10/2024 13:04

I have a teenage niece with older parents - just forty when they had her so not hugely so. She was teased at primary school and asked if it was her grandparents. Both parents young at heart and not out of touch. Both great parents too but it didn't stop her being teased about them.

Thats so odd! It can’t have been that unusual to have a kid at 40 about 15 years ago. Even more common to have kids in your mid to late 30s and, about 15 years later, who would be able to tell the difference?

pinkdelight · 15/10/2024 13:53

AngelicKaty · 15/10/2024 11:35

I didn't take her comments individually but as a whole and I didn't dispute the facts of her maths - that would be stupid. The summarising statement of her comments is that her friend's older parents were "so out of touch with everything" as if this applies to all older parents by default - that is ageist and if you can't see that we'll just have to agree to disagree.

'as if this applies to all older parents by default' is your own editorialising. It's not in there and you seeing it doesn't make it so. We can agree to disagree ofc but I'm not the one calling people ageist on the basis of something you've imagined. Maybe if you want more acceptance, don't start accusing people so harshly.

MissionaryMumtoOne · 15/10/2024 13:14

itwasnevermine · 15/10/2024 11:57

And when your children are 25 and facing getting married without you there?

It's always fine until it's not.

If someone has a child 40-45, then by the time their child is 25, they will barely be touching 70. Is it very usual to be passing away aged 65-70? I’d say that’s young to pass away - we all hope and expect to get to 80/85 nowadays surely? Many people are still working until 70! Though of course, no one’s tomorrow is promised.

MissionaryMumtoOne · 15/10/2024 13:09

itwasnevermine · 15/10/2024 13:05

@MissionaryMumtoOne wait till they're in poor health and you're realising you only got 25-35 years with your parents as opposed to the 40-50 you thought you'd get.

And I’m actually in my 30s now, and they are still in fantastic health. I anticipate many more years with them thank you very much.

MissionaryMumtoOne · 15/10/2024 13:08

itwasnevermine · 15/10/2024 13:05

@MissionaryMumtoOne wait till they're in poor health and you're realising you only got 25-35 years with your parents as opposed to the 40-50 you thought you'd get.

My grandmother (who I never got to meet) passed in her 30s suddenly in good health. My other grandmother is in good health and lives independently in her 90s. We never know how long we will have with our parents. It’s always a gamble.

itwasnevermine · 15/10/2024 13:05

@MissionaryMumtoOne wait till they're in poor health and you're realising you only got 25-35 years with your parents as opposed to the 40-50 you thought you'd get.

Jen739 · 15/10/2024 13:04

MissionaryMumtoOne · 15/10/2024 10:30

I have older parents. It’s far from hell. They are wonderful.
man’s even though they were late 30s (mum) early 40s (Dad) when I was born, when I was 9 years old, they became foster parents, and are still fostering today for n their early 70s. So they became even older parents than they were with me. They are excellent foster parents, not out of touch - if anything having teens around has made them younger and more in touch! My little foster-sis, now a young adult, they became special guardians for, when she was 11 and so was a teen with parents in their late 60s and early 70s and she is very close to them both and considers them as her mother and father.

the whole idea of “Imagine being 15 and your parents 60!” Is ageist. Some 60 year olds are better parents than some in their mid 30s. I also have two older siblings who were born when my mother was in her very early 20s, and they also agree that my mum has become a better, and more hands on mum the older she has become.

I have a teenage niece with older parents - just forty when they had her so not hugely so. She was teased at primary school and asked if it was her grandparents. Both parents young at heart and not out of touch. Both great parents too but it didn't stop her being teased about them.

SallyWD · 15/10/2024 12:03

15storeys · 15/10/2024 11:36

When I wanted to be sterilised at 42 my gynae was reluctant as I had no kids and told me that women in their late 40s were deciding to have children. It's not medically impossible so it's about how you feel.

It's all very well saying this. Yes, it's not impossible. I know a woman of 51 who naturally conceived. She wasn't trying and thought she was in menopause. So yes, it does happen.
However, it's not just about how OP feels, it's about the quality of her eggs (and her partner's sperm), it's also about whether her hormone levels can support a pregnancy. The chance of getting pregnant at 44 is about 4% according to some sources. If she does get pregnant, there's about a 50% chance of miscarriage. So if she wants to try, that's fine but she needs to be aware the her chances are low.

itwasnevermine · 15/10/2024 11:57

felissamy · 15/10/2024 11:56

Biological fact is I had kids on 40s and am very healthy, happy and in touch with them
...more than quite a few younger parents of teens. So I think it is ageism

And when your children are 25 and facing getting married without you there?

It's always fine until it's not.

felissamy · 15/10/2024 11:56

Biological fact is I had kids on 40s and am very healthy, happy and in touch with them
...more than quite a few younger parents of teens. So I think it is ageism

15storeys · 15/10/2024 11:36

When I wanted to be sterilised at 42 my gynae was reluctant as I had no kids and told me that women in their late 40s were deciding to have children. It's not medically impossible so it's about how you feel.

AngelicKaty · 15/10/2024 11:35

pinkdelight · 15/10/2024 10:48

The bits you've underlined don't make your case:

You need to think about the child, when they are due to start school,

This is true, something that needs thinking about.

you would be nearly 50 and starting to hit the menopause.

Also true, no one would dispute.

When they are due to leave school you will be hitting 60!!

Also true.

My friend growing up had older parents and hated it as they were so out of touch with everything.

This is the poster's experience she's relating, which was true for her friend.

If you want to make a case for ageism or someone just being plain wrong on here, I don't see how this does that. The poster disagrees with you and you've balanced out her take with your own, but this isn't the evidence you think it is.

I didn't take her comments individually but as a whole and I didn't dispute the facts of her maths - that would be stupid. The summarising statement of her comments is that her friend's older parents were "so out of touch with everything" as if this applies to all older parents by default - that is ageist and if you can't see that we'll just have to agree to disagree.

CecilyP · 15/10/2024 11:33

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2024 11:18

That's prob as most people still use contraceptive incase they got preg

I know j did. Def didn't want a baby at 48/50😂

Tho due to issues I had having no 1 I prob wouldn't get preg

Then again they say after ivf some do become fertile and say now be careful

But know of a mum getting preg at 45/46 as ttc and natural preg after a few mc

But very few women had babies over 50 even before contraception was available. 45/46 is a completely different ballpark and a far greater number of women have babies between 45 and 49 than at over 50.

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2024 11:18

CecilyP · 15/10/2024 10:31

Fwiw I'm 51. I stopped periods at 51 few months ago. Was very reg every 28 days so tech I could have had a baby at your age naturally

I’m not sure you could! Having regular periods in your early 50s isn’t unusual at all; having a baby in your 50’s is very unusual. Even in the days before available contraception!

That's prob as most people still use contraceptive incase they got preg

I know j did. Def didn't want a baby at 48/50😂

Tho due to issues I had having no 1 I prob wouldn't get preg

Then again they say after ivf some do become fertile and say now be careful

But know of a mum getting preg at 45/46 as ttc and natural preg after a few mc

SabreIsMyFave · 15/10/2024 11:14

HappyDane · 15/10/2024 10:58

Throwing accusations of 'isms' around whenever people are discussing the reality of life is really irritating and there's no need. Obviously people know it doesn't apply to every single situation. It's still fine for people to say that being the child of older parents is/can be hell, and conversely for people to say they don't think they would do it again, or that they don't recommend others do it. Indeed it's also completely fine to hold the opinion that it's selfish. OP has asked for opinions, and people are giving their opinions, from varying perspectives. That's how discussion works.

Edited

This. It's ridiculous to call people 'ageist' purely for stating biological facts.

CecilyP · 15/10/2024 11:06

No offence intended, but I doubt this VERY much. If you do have a 53 y.o. friend who is pregnant, it's extremely unlikely that it was a natural conception.

Yes extremely unlikely! Before the days of IVF, around 50 women a year in the U.K. had babies over the age of 50. And you can bet that almost all of them were actually aged 50 or 51!

user2848502016 · 15/10/2024 11:06

Not necessarily, you might just need to try and accept that it might not happen, there is an increased risk of miscarriage, and also have all your prenatal screening as there is increased risk of Downs etc.
If you're happy to take that risk, and feel like your older children would cope then I would say go for it.
Lots of women your age do have children naturally.

HappyDane · 15/10/2024 10:58

Throwing accusations of 'isms' around whenever people are discussing the reality of life is really irritating and there's no need. Obviously people know it doesn't apply to every single situation. It's still fine for people to say that being the child of older parents is/can be hell, and conversely for people to say they don't think they would do it again, or that they don't recommend others do it. Indeed it's also completely fine to hold the opinion that it's selfish. OP has asked for opinions, and people are giving their opinions, from varying perspectives. That's how discussion works.

BlokeHereInPeace · 15/10/2024 10:55

If it's ok to offer a male perspective, I've found myself saying things like this in the past, as others have said it's a 50% enthusiasm and I think needs more examination.

If it's ok to offer an opinion, spend time having time and fun with your two children, keep driving them to parties and, in a few years time, enjoy being to go out on dates because both the kids are doing something rather than be stressed over a five year old.

Blistory · 15/10/2024 10:49

It's not just about age though.

You are happy as things are, as is he, as are your children. Even if a pregnancy went well and the baby was healthy, you are still blending a family with somone who has never had children. Being good with your children as your partner is very different from being a first time dad managing a baby and the changes that come with that, along with step parenting two older children.

You would have one child living with both parents whilst your older children have a dad (is he the abusive one ? ) that they don't live with. How will they feel about that as time goes on ? How will you deal with inheritances (as an example) and making sure they are all treated equally within the family unit ? Will his family treat all your children equally at Christmas and birthday etc ?

Don't undervalue what you currently have.

pinkdelight · 15/10/2024 10:48

AngelicKaty · 15/10/2024 10:16

@itwasnevermine it's not ageist to say that sometimes you're too old to become a parent.

No, it's not, but that isn't what @Sazzy6258 said. Re-read her post:
"There comes a cut off point where it is just selfish and I think you are at this point! You need to think about the child, when they are due to start school, you would be nearly 50 and starting to hit the menopause. When they are due to leave school you will be hitting 60!! My friend growing up had older parents and hated it as they were so out of touch with everything. Enjoy the life you have and don't do it."
There are some people here who don't seem to understand that ageism is a form of prejudice. Her opinion is ageist because she makes sweeping prejudicial generalisations about older parents.
And remember, ageism works both ways. I wonder how a young mum would feel if someone posted about them something like: How selfish. You're far too young to have a child. You have no life experience and don't know your own mind. You couldn't bring anything to a young child's development - you'll just want to be out partying with your mates.
Do you understand ageism now?

Edited

The bits you've underlined don't make your case:

You need to think about the child, when they are due to start school,

This is true, something that needs thinking about.

you would be nearly 50 and starting to hit the menopause.

Also true, no one would dispute.

When they are due to leave school you will be hitting 60!!

Also true.

My friend growing up had older parents and hated it as they were so out of touch with everything.

This is the poster's experience she's relating, which was true for her friend.

If you want to make a case for ageism or someone just being plain wrong on here, I don't see how this does that. The poster disagrees with you and you've balanced out her take with your own, but this isn't the evidence you think it is.

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