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Partner and female co worker

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Luciev · 14/10/2024 20:15

A short back story so you don’t think I’m weird - my previous parter of 12 years struck up a friendship with a women at work. I didn’t mind because I felt confident in our relationship. Fast forward 6 months - he left me for her. She was 15 years younger. I didn’t see it coming. Naive ? Maybe. So when my partner of 5 years struck up a friendship with a woman at work I felt a tinge of dread - but as they were just talking at work on teams I didn’t see the problem until he said he was meeting her outside work for coffee. I said I felt uncomfortable with that as I don’t know her, and after my last experience I felt it was a bad idea. I looked at their text exchange and she was asking him how tall he was , saying how much they have in common and he said he liked her and had a connection. He agreed not to meet outside work and also to cool it with the texting up and down, sharing selfies etc outside work. Fast forward 3 months , I went to Spain with my female friend of years, while I was away they met up for a two hour dog walk. He didn’t tell me , but I had a feeling he would do it so I asked him outright - he hesitated and then said yes he did. And that she also knew I was away. I find this duplicitous behaviour. So I said that if the friendship is so important then go for it but he can do it as a single man. Apparently I am hysterical and over the top. But honestly it brings back all the humiliation as before. So he has now told her he can’t see her outside work because it creates anxiety for me and this makes it difficult for him She was very disappointed and is keen to pursue the friendship and can’t understand what the fuss is about.
have I been unreasonable ?

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FranceIsWhereItsAt · 14/10/2024 23:43

OP, has reading all the responses here helped you see things any more clearly? I must admit I've been surprised that there have been so few accusations, of you stopping him having friends, so it seems clear to me, that the vast majority of us, would react in the same way that you have. You know what you have to do. Take care of yourself.

bows101 · 14/10/2024 22:55

YANBU
He clearly can't keep himself away from her. He just has to while you are around. It's so shit and I'm sorry OP 😔

HotDogJumpingFrogHaveACookie · 14/10/2024 22:49

I'm all for having male female friendships. But telling each other they have this wonderful connection and them meeting up only when you're not around is snide as fuck. I'd be livid if my partner prioritised a colleague over me too.

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:46

@SpanThatWorld yes colleagues. OP is talking about a friend this woman is her DP’s friend. My DP has a friend from work and I’ve met her. They talk outside of work, she is a friend like all his other friends. There is a distinction here, I talk to my colleagues all day but I don’t hang out with many of them outside of work, we don’t text outside of work. I just know them at work. If we did, they are my friend and my DP and I would meet each others friends.

aurorabora24 · 14/10/2024 22:46

Red flags everywhere and even if he did cool it and not see her again I don't think I could look at him in the same way to be honest.

They are both testing the waters and she's clearly very desperate or bored to drive for an hour to go on a dog walk with someone she has a passing interest in 'being friends with'. Pull the other one love.

I would get rid, let her have him and see how long it lasts when they really get to know each other.

Nodlikeyouwerelistening · 14/10/2024 22:46

He’s a ticking time bomb. If not this woman it’ll be the next. But next time he’ll know to hide it better from the very start to avoid raising your suspicions. Sorry, I don’t see a future for you two. At least not a happy one. He’s out for secret thrills.

SpanThatWorld · 14/10/2024 22:42

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:36

@SpanThatWorld Ive met my partners colleagues, especially if they are female and he has a friendship with them. We don’t hang out all the time but it would be weird if I hadn’t met them and he talks to them frequently.

Also the OP did this because she was making it clear he could be friends with her, just not secret friends. She wanted it to be more open and upfront and get to know this woman who is becoming so close to her partner. I do not see how this is an issue. She isn’t just a colleague if she is a friend, and most people meet their partners friends

I have never met any of my husband's colleagues.

He hadn't met any of mine until the wedding last year. I have good friends amongst my colleagues but with don't socialise with partners at all.

TennisLady · 14/10/2024 22:40

YANBU!

I’ve been the naive wife when exDH got with the “just a friend” at work.

My now DH gets on with the women he works with and has met them for work purposes etc and I don’t flinch. I absolutely would if I was in your shoes… some of what you’ve said isn’t right with his behaviour and those texts.

Powderblue1 · 14/10/2024 22:39

Absolutely not! He likes her and they have a connection...NO! Trust your gut

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:36

@SpanThatWorld Ive met my partners colleagues, especially if they are female and he has a friendship with them. We don’t hang out all the time but it would be weird if I hadn’t met them and he talks to them frequently.

Also the OP did this because she was making it clear he could be friends with her, just not secret friends. She wanted it to be more open and upfront and get to know this woman who is becoming so close to her partner. I do not see how this is an issue. She isn’t just a colleague if she is a friend, and most people meet their partners friends

Luciev · 14/10/2024 22:35

nOasistickets · 14/10/2024 22:32

I would say i was pretty laid back - my husband has a few close women friends - one is an ex he was engaged to - but it's all above board etc etc. This - your situation - isn't. He lied and hid from you. Im sorry but i would be questioning everything now. How disrespectful to you.

Yeah he has two female friends in Germany and we socialised together and then separately. This is not the same in my opinion.

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Pocketfullofdogtreats · 14/10/2024 22:34

It might be that it's a challenge for her to get him away from you. A bit of fun.
Another point is that he is flattered by the attention from her and while you were away he took the opportunity to do this long walk that he wouldn't have been able to do had you been there.
On the positive side, it does sound as if he wants to be honest with you, and tell you some version of the truth. Maybe he is kidding himself.
Anyway, moving on, I would have a very frank talk to him about what is likely to happen down the line if he doesn't man up and tell the pink-haired temptress to find herself a man who is actually available: he'll lose you, and maybe her too, as he'll no longer be a challenge. Time for him to decide.
I do think that a lot of men are a bit weak when it comes to attractive women. It's a good job that the women DH works with don't fancy him or I'd be having that conversation too.

nOasistickets · 14/10/2024 22:32

I would say i was pretty laid back - my husband has a few close women friends - one is an ex he was engaged to - but it's all above board etc etc. This - your situation - isn't. He lied and hid from you. Im sorry but i would be questioning everything now. How disrespectful to you.

SpanThatWorld · 14/10/2024 22:31

I did offer to host her here so she can see us as a couple

Why would a work colleague want to see you as a couple? I have barely a passing interest in my colleagues' partners and certainly wouldn't bring my husband to meet a colleague's wife. Jeez, the utter tedium of meeting my colleagues' husbands when one of our team got married last year was bad enough.

My last partner left me for someone he'd met through work.
Current husband has managed to resist the temptation to leave me for over 25 years
History does not have to repeat itself.

Noseybookworm · 14/10/2024 22:29

I think you're right to state your boundaries and given that he knows what happened to you before, it's cruel of him to say you're being over the top and unreasonable! I don't know if I would still want to be with him if he is so dismissive of his partner's feelings.

Snowfalling · 14/10/2024 22:27

Luciev · 14/10/2024 20:35

I think sneaking around is a bit suss no? I did offer to host her here so she can see us as a couple. She is having relationship issues so I said she can bring her partner. But clearly I am not invited into this situation. ?
.The reason I have asked mums here is that I wanted some feedback from women I don’t know.

she's having relationship issues? So funny, cos so are you, but unfortunately your dp isn't being very understanding.

Toomanyemails · 14/10/2024 22:26

Yeah you're not hysterical. Even if nothings happened, he likes the attention and is prioritising it over your feelings.
My DP has had female work friends over the years as well as from childhood and uni. Occasionally he's met them outside work before I've met them, which I'm fine with, but I do usually meet them eventually and some have become close friends. He'd never share selfies, meet them in secret or tell them they have a 'connection'! And it's just as often, if not more, been with male friends or gay women, so I'm very comfortable it's just being sociable - we've moved a lot and both need to meet new people!
Some of my friends think me and DP are too relaxed about opposite sex friends, but we do have clear boundaries and your DP's behaviour sounds dodgy to me. Don't let him think your response is the problem.

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:24

Luciev · 14/10/2024 22:13

That’s exactly why I am asking you all AIBU because I was feeling irrational and hysterical. I know in my gut I am right - there are little things I remember , like he closes his office door and so I burst in and he is on teams with her - FaceTime for an hour. They are vibing - who else drives for 1 hour to go walk the dog for 2 hours ??

Grossly I assume he has been test driving this woman to see if she is a good fit. I assume this is what people are doing when exploring an emotional connection with a new person before jumping from a relationship, or deciding to stay with their partner if the new person doesn’t make the grade. I wouldn’t spend too much energy being angry at her. She does know about you, but through his lens of what he portrays that makes him look like the nice guy. If it’s not physical then it’s an emotional affair by the sounds of things.

BetterWithPockets · 14/10/2024 22:22

Luciev · 14/10/2024 20:58

You are right. He had two female friends when we were in Germany and there was no ‘vibe’ whatsoever. Everything was out there and I was welcome to join if I chose to. This is not the same - I have been shut out.

This for me is key, OP. My DH has a good friend at work; she’s younger than him, and attractive. But if I wanted to join them when they meet (outside of work), I could. I mean, I wouldn’t want to, but I could. And that means I’m okay with it — NOT because I’m a ‘cool wife’ but because there’s no vibe, to use your expression. And the vibe is everything.

Falseshamrok · 14/10/2024 22:18

Nah, he’s taking the fucking piss

Luciev · 14/10/2024 22:13

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:05

@TodayandThursday well he has to set up OP as the bad guy here because he can’t admit to his co worker that being in a serious long term relationship and flirting with a co worker that you admit to finding attractive is crap behaviour. This is the worst bit, that he is making OP out to be some irrational damaged woman who can’t handle a little dog walk… he is gaslighting you OP and testing your boundaries to see what you will put up with

That’s exactly why I am asking you all AIBU because I was feeling irrational and hysterical. I know in my gut I am right - there are little things I remember , like he closes his office door and so I burst in and he is on teams with her - FaceTime for an hour. They are vibing - who else drives for 1 hour to go walk the dog for 2 hours ??

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TodayandThursday · 14/10/2024 22:11

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:05

@TodayandThursday well he has to set up OP as the bad guy here because he can’t admit to his co worker that being in a serious long term relationship and flirting with a co worker that you admit to finding attractive is crap behaviour. This is the worst bit, that he is making OP out to be some irrational damaged woman who can’t handle a little dog walk… he is gaslighting you OP and testing your boundaries to see what you will put up with

Thank you @TheLever you posted much more articulately what I was trying to express.

It gives me the rage on OP's behalf. How dare he. OP please leave this guy.

Imfreetofeelgood · 14/10/2024 22:07

Don't drag it out OP, or the moment will never be right. Just get rid of him, while you still have the power and self respect.

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:05

@TodayandThursday well he has to set up OP as the bad guy here because he can’t admit to his co worker that being in a serious long term relationship and flirting with a co worker that you admit to finding attractive is crap behaviour. This is the worst bit, that he is making OP out to be some irrational damaged woman who can’t handle a little dog walk… he is gaslighting you OP and testing your boundaries to see what you will put up with

herniated · 14/10/2024 22:05

Yeah op he is very much into her and you know it, we all know it. Tell him it's you or her and his reaction will be deciding factor on your relationship. What a couple of dicks.