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Partner and female co worker

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Luciev · 14/10/2024 20:15

A short back story so you don’t think I’m weird - my previous parter of 12 years struck up a friendship with a women at work. I didn’t mind because I felt confident in our relationship. Fast forward 6 months - he left me for her. She was 15 years younger. I didn’t see it coming. Naive ? Maybe. So when my partner of 5 years struck up a friendship with a woman at work I felt a tinge of dread - but as they were just talking at work on teams I didn’t see the problem until he said he was meeting her outside work for coffee. I said I felt uncomfortable with that as I don’t know her, and after my last experience I felt it was a bad idea. I looked at their text exchange and she was asking him how tall he was , saying how much they have in common and he said he liked her and had a connection. He agreed not to meet outside work and also to cool it with the texting up and down, sharing selfies etc outside work. Fast forward 3 months , I went to Spain with my female friend of years, while I was away they met up for a two hour dog walk. He didn’t tell me , but I had a feeling he would do it so I asked him outright - he hesitated and then said yes he did. And that she also knew I was away. I find this duplicitous behaviour. So I said that if the friendship is so important then go for it but he can do it as a single man. Apparently I am hysterical and over the top. But honestly it brings back all the humiliation as before. So he has now told her he can’t see her outside work because it creates anxiety for me and this makes it difficult for him She was very disappointed and is keen to pursue the friendship and can’t understand what the fuss is about.
have I been unreasonable ?

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BoundaryGirl3939 · 18/10/2024 07:59

It seems like they're playing mindgames, and making you out to be paranoid and insecure. They both sound horrible. For your own sanity, walk away.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 18/10/2024 07:54

I understand why you feel the way you do based on your previous experience.

But controlling your partners friendships is really unhealthy.

You either trust him or you don't and if you don't the relationship is doomed.

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2024 07:53

This relationship is dead in the water now. I couldn’t be arsed with policing my bloke’s behaviour and worrying about who he’s seeing. No trust = no relationship for me. Time to throw him back.

Lwrenn · 18/10/2024 07:53

He is slimy lying bastard. Get rid.

My dp has women pals who are colleagues and they've come for dinner, pop in for a coffee, they've visited us when our babies were tiny for baby cuddles.
They've equally met up for lunch alone many times. Before he's gone I've said "send my love to sally" because its never once been a secret. And never once have I felt that dread in my belly I'm being cheated on.

Your partners secrecy is the red flag. If he's lying he's preparing to cheat.
Get rid and do not let him gaslight you that you're paranoid or unreasonable. He is a snake.
Walk away head held high you didn't put up with his twattishness.

Tiredandneedtogotobed · 18/10/2024 07:53

She thinks “you’re crazy” becasue that is the picture he has painted. He should have your back.
but also if I was friends with a guy, unless I thought there was abuse, I would back away from the friendship if it was upsetting his gf/partner.

Crayfishforyou · 18/10/2024 07:48

You aren’t anxious or hysterical, you are picking up on it sooner than a lot of women would purely because you have been burnt before.
He will accuse you of being anxious, uncool, etc right now because nothing physical has taken place. Yet.

stardustbiscuits · 18/10/2024 07:46

I think going slightly against the grain that there is room for a bit more nuance here. In a long term relationship people are bound to go through crushes … it’s normal. it’s how they manage them and obviously whether they act on them which counts. I would firmly maintain the boundary of no outside work contact to give your partner a chance to control that crush and for it to run its course. If he continues to push the boundaries and to fib to you then of course you can’t put up with that.

babyproblems · 18/10/2024 07:44

I don’t think you’re unreasonable. It sounds like an affair in the making tbh. Really he needs to change jobs. If he can’t see this creeping into your lives or is letting it in that’s a big issue. X

CheekySwan · 18/10/2024 07:43

So when they were messaging over team can I presume her asking how tall he was is because they had not actually met in person?

It's practically internet dating, and then they meet up - trust your instincts, something is brewing here, whether he wants to admit it or not

Ophy83 · 18/10/2024 07:43

A friendship? Fine

Nonsense about having a "connection " and meeting up for secret walks? Absolutely not.

GingerDoris · 18/10/2024 07:25

I'm quite laid back about stuff but this would have me reacting the same way. Sending selfies to each other too seems weird too. I wonder how he would feel if you were sending pictures to a younger male work colleague and meeting them behind his back. I think women have a good intuition about other women's intentions in situations like this, where men can be a bit dense. 🙈 I hope that you are OK.

FoxesSox · 18/10/2024 07:18

You are absolutely not unreasonable. That woman is after your partner. And he is clearly interested as why would he pursue this knowing you are uncomfortable about it. I would leave him before he leaves you for her. They have probably already been intimate most likely. Especially meeting up behind your back while you were out the country.

AmberAlert86 · 18/10/2024 07:16

Jl2014 · 18/10/2024 07:12

Not at all hysterical OP. He’s either sleep walking into an affair or dipping his toe in the water to see if things move along.

Hmmm walking into it eyes wide open

AmberAlert86 · 18/10/2024 07:15

The man is so audacious that he's trying to date a new bird under wife's nose!
And imo the work colleague is brazenly pursuing your H. What sort of woman finds out that the friendship is making the wife uncomfortable and instead of backing off, comes over for a "walk" when the wife is away???
I've had work friendships over the years. It's just not on.

Jl2014 · 18/10/2024 07:12

Not at all hysterical OP. He’s either sleep walking into an affair or dipping his toe in the water to see if things move along.

Devon23 · 18/10/2024 07:00

Make plans to split- no trust, no relationship!

FasterMichelin · 18/10/2024 06:57

The damage is already done in my opinion. He's dishonest and I think history is repeating itself.

CosyLemur · 18/10/2024 06:55

Personally I think you can only control who he is friends with if you're willing to have him control who you're friends with. It's not healthy for you or your relationship to be on edge about every connection he has nor him you, if there's no trust in relationship there is no relationship.
If he's going to have an affair and leave you for someone else he'll do it regardless of how many times you stop him talking to women.
And I say this as someone who's exh did what your ex did.

Pantspangles · 18/10/2024 06:42

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 14/10/2024 20:44

You are right OP he’s not meeting Mavis, twenty years older, they are both Wordle fans and enjoy watching Ludwig.
This man knows exactly what your previous ex did. If the situation were reversed would you meet a man under these circumstances? No, and neither would I.
He is basking in the attention and it’s so predictable it’s a joke, and she’s no friend to him either. She’s enjoying flattering his ego.
Why people behave like this and then shout at their partners I have no idea.
While I do think straight men and women can be friends it has to be done with boundaries. I am sorry but all too often it’s nothing to do with being mates it’s acting on a flirtation and then not putting a stop to it.
Has this man got so few friends he has to meet with this woman while you are on holiday? I think most of us can muster up enough mates that we don’t need to be behaving like him.
I have two male friends I have known since I was a kid. We have been through a lot together. Whenever either phones I tell my DP. There is no need for any type of jealousy and it works both ways. There is no secrecy involved whatsoever.
There is clearly something going on here which is why you are getting blamed. He is an arsehole.

Edited

Completely missing the point of the thread, and apologies to the OP, but have realised I am Mavis. I love wordle and Ludwig. It’s nice to know that I am not considered a threat to anyone’s relationship (I’m really not)

Clara202 · 15/10/2024 12:52

And don’t be surprised if when they do get together, and it sounds inevitable, that he’s all
’but nothing happened until after you broke up
with me’ 🙄
how dumb do these men think we are?!

littleburn · 15/10/2024 06:16

I agree with @NachoChip, he's weighing up his options whilst maintaining 'we're just friends' if you question it. Men rarely leave unless they have someone new lined up and this sounds like the 'transition' phase.

NachoChip · 15/10/2024 00:06

Right now they are "friends" so he can claim they're not doing anything wrong. But where they actually are is in the "getting to know you" phase and exploring their connection, as evidenced by conversations between them that have crossed boundaries and doing what they can to meet up without you/your knowledge.
Anyone can meet someone in life where there's that "if I wasn't with my partner" feeling but it's how he handles it that matters. The right thing to do is to steer clear. Maybe he hasn't thought this through and is just doing what he feels like without considering the consequences. Tell him that....it doesn't have to be an ultimatum, more that if he chooses to continue this "friendship", that to you his him exploring his options and message received.
I'm sorry OP, I hope he makes the right choice.

StarStay · 15/10/2024 00:06

OP I'm also a "cool wife" by Mumsnet standards. My partner and I have platonic friends of the opposite sex we sometimes spend time with alone. I sometimes eyeroll at some of the posts I see on Mumsnet around the panic of an opposite sex friendship.

This is not what you're describing at all imo. The lying, the telling you you're crazy, the keeping you from meeting, the waiting until you're gone to meet up behind your back, the lack of respect for you and your relationship. All crazy red flags. No one does these things for a "friend". Your partner sounds like a first class idiot.

Luciev · 14/10/2024 23:54

FranceIsWhereItsAt · 14/10/2024 23:43

OP, has reading all the responses here helped you see things any more clearly? I must admit I've been surprised that there have been so few accusations, of you stopping him having friends, so it seems clear to me, that the vast majority of us, would react in the same way that you have. You know what you have to do. Take care of yourself.

thank you for asking - I am somewhat relieved i am not deemed by MN as overreacting , hysterical etc. I kinda knew deep down I was not but It has helped me immensely actually. He is on his way out the door, I just want to do it when it’s convenient for me. I have to say, I feel like i have decided that this is not working for me - and in this situation, I am the important one. Now my mind has been cleared and my big issue is on what to wear for an Autumn reception in November at the House of Lords 😂
thank you all🙏🏼❤️

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SpanThatWorld · 14/10/2024 23:50

TheLever · 14/10/2024 22:46

@SpanThatWorld yes colleagues. OP is talking about a friend this woman is her DP’s friend. My DP has a friend from work and I’ve met her. They talk outside of work, she is a friend like all his other friends. There is a distinction here, I talk to my colleagues all day but I don’t hang out with many of them outside of work, we don’t text outside of work. I just know them at work. If we did, they are my friend and my DP and I would meet each others friends.

My husband and I don't share many friends.

Most of my friends are through work. We text evenings and weekends, share holiday photos and socialise regularly. We don't bring partners.

It's just different strokes.