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Partner and female co worker

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Luciev · 14/10/2024 20:15

A short back story so you don’t think I’m weird - my previous parter of 12 years struck up a friendship with a women at work. I didn’t mind because I felt confident in our relationship. Fast forward 6 months - he left me for her. She was 15 years younger. I didn’t see it coming. Naive ? Maybe. So when my partner of 5 years struck up a friendship with a woman at work I felt a tinge of dread - but as they were just talking at work on teams I didn’t see the problem until he said he was meeting her outside work for coffee. I said I felt uncomfortable with that as I don’t know her, and after my last experience I felt it was a bad idea. I looked at their text exchange and she was asking him how tall he was , saying how much they have in common and he said he liked her and had a connection. He agreed not to meet outside work and also to cool it with the texting up and down, sharing selfies etc outside work. Fast forward 3 months , I went to Spain with my female friend of years, while I was away they met up for a two hour dog walk. He didn’t tell me , but I had a feeling he would do it so I asked him outright - he hesitated and then said yes he did. And that she also knew I was away. I find this duplicitous behaviour. So I said that if the friendship is so important then go for it but he can do it as a single man. Apparently I am hysterical and over the top. But honestly it brings back all the humiliation as before. So he has now told her he can’t see her outside work because it creates anxiety for me and this makes it difficult for him She was very disappointed and is keen to pursue the friendship and can’t understand what the fuss is about.
have I been unreasonable ?

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TodayandThursday · 14/10/2024 21:52

So he has now told her he can’t see her outside work because it creates anxiety for me and this makes it difficult for him She was very disappointed and is keen to pursue the friendship and can’t understand what the fuss is about.

Honestly this paragraph alone would make me finish with him, even if they didn't fancy each other (which they do)!! Who fuck do they think they are?

I bloody bet she's keen to pursue the "friendship".

How can you ever trust him if you go away again?

He's already half out the door. Makes me so angry and sad for you.

randomusernam · 14/10/2024 21:51

What I would find most disappointing is that he knows the history and would still choose to behave like this. My ex partner

Trailblazin · 14/10/2024 21:50

um I ask myself asking this question a lot. Why are you still with this loser? It would have been over for me. Nobody meets up for a 2 hour dog walk with a colleague from teams in the circumstances you describe.

Luciev · 14/10/2024 21:49

Dashel · 14/10/2024 21:47

I would say I’m a cool wife by Mumsnet standards. DH has always had good relationships with female colleagues and friends over the years but no secret texting, we all meet up, including them staying over and friends with us both on social media, plus any partners and it’s the same for me.

The worst bit would be X made cakes for her birthday and sent one for you, but I ate it on the way home.

I have plenty of male friends so it’s the same for him.

This is healthy. This is what I had when we were in Germany. It was perfect ! This situation is not.

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Luciev · 14/10/2024 21:47

SunsetSkylane · 14/10/2024 21:45

Honestly @Luciev if I read back our messages...all day every day, nights, mornings, weekends, literally hundreds of messages a day sometimes.

Maybe to the untrained eye it wouldn't look too bad...but we both knew what we meant when we said or sent certain things.

You sound like you know what you're doing and I'm not going to make this about me. Good luck. I admire your boundaries as somehow he absolutely dismantled mine.

The hero thing is interesting- I was in a really vulnerable place for various reasons, and he fucking loved it.

Yes he did dismantle your boundaries just as my previous partner of 12 years did. Not happening again.

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Dashel · 14/10/2024 21:47

I would say I’m a cool wife by Mumsnet standards. DH has always had good relationships with female colleagues and friends over the years but no secret texting, we all meet up, including them staying over and friends with us both on social media, plus any partners and it’s the same for me.

The worst bit would be X made cakes for her birthday and sent one for you, but I ate it on the way home.

I have plenty of male friends so it’s the same for him.

Farmwifefarmlife · 14/10/2024 21:46

If my DH said he had a connection with someone else he’d be out the door!

SunsetSkylane · 14/10/2024 21:45

Honestly @Luciev if I read back our messages...all day every day, nights, mornings, weekends, literally hundreds of messages a day sometimes.

Maybe to the untrained eye it wouldn't look too bad...but we both knew what we meant when we said or sent certain things.

You sound like you know what you're doing and I'm not going to make this about me. Good luck. I admire your boundaries as somehow he absolutely dismantled mine.

The hero thing is interesting- I was in a really vulnerable place for various reasons, and he fucking loved it.

MsNeis · 14/10/2024 21:44

What @CocoPlum @Deedee558 and@Diarygirlqueen have said 🙋‍♀️

Luciev · 14/10/2024 21:43

TheLever · 14/10/2024 21:37

@Nogaxeh I don’t think the OP is trying to keep the relationship going she has told him to choose I think that’s reasonable, she gave him a chance to put a stop to it when she explained how she felt about it when she first discovered it and he didn’t listen. I don’t think she has gone about this in the wrong way. Giving your partner one benefit of the doubt is ok, now she isn’t anymore

Thank you - that’s what I did and believe me , I am not going through that again - being the last one to know. I am not afraid of being alone - he will be out on his arse when it suits me.

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Rain11 · 14/10/2024 21:43

Sorry, but he is very clearly into her. Otherwise, he wouldn't bother. This friendship speech he is giving to you is just a lame excuse. Men don't need to have female friends. It's the truth. He finds her good-looking and he is attracted to her. He is testing the waters, and by the sound of it, she is also interested.

You are wasting your time with him.

If she was heavier or/and much older or really ugly, he wouldn't be messaging her and going for long walks with her. That's for sure.

It sucks, but the situation is crystal clear. He is gaslighting you when he tells you that you are overreacting.

No conversation can fix this. He is actively pursuing this "friendship " and lying to you. It's only a matter of time... I would end it now and move on with my life.

Prioritise yourself.

Luciev · 14/10/2024 21:41

SunsetSkylane · 14/10/2024 21:36

Look...I've been the female colleague. And I don't think guys do all that texting stuff unless they think there's something in it for them. There were a lot of vibes between us, and while nothing physical happened it was massively over the line and inappropriate.

You're not wrong. I'm sorry.

Thank you for the honesty. I do believe they are vibing. The messages were just OTT and massive red flags came up.

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TheLever · 14/10/2024 21:37

@Nogaxeh I don’t think the OP is trying to keep the relationship going she has told him to choose I think that’s reasonable, she gave him a chance to put a stop to it when she explained how she felt about it when she first discovered it and he didn’t listen. I don’t think she has gone about this in the wrong way. Giving your partner one benefit of the doubt is ok, now she isn’t anymore

SunsetSkylane · 14/10/2024 21:36

Look...I've been the female colleague. And I don't think guys do all that texting stuff unless they think there's something in it for them. There were a lot of vibes between us, and while nothing physical happened it was massively over the line and inappropriate.

You're not wrong. I'm sorry.

Luciev · 14/10/2024 21:31

Nogaxeh · 14/10/2024 21:27

Of course it's a bit suss, but the conclusion is that he doesn't value your relationship, not that it's reasonable to try and keep the relationship going by keeping an eye on him all the time. The [justifiable] paranoia would eat you away.

That’s true it would eventually do that.

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Nogaxeh · 14/10/2024 21:27

Luciev · 14/10/2024 20:35

I think sneaking around is a bit suss no? I did offer to host her here so she can see us as a couple. She is having relationship issues so I said she can bring her partner. But clearly I am not invited into this situation. ?
.The reason I have asked mums here is that I wanted some feedback from women I don’t know.

Of course it's a bit suss, but the conclusion is that he doesn't value your relationship, not that it's reasonable to try and keep the relationship going by keeping an eye on him all the time. The [justifiable] paranoia would eat you away.

TheLever · 14/10/2024 21:27

I don’t think you are over reacting and I say this as a woman whose partner has female friends and co workers. My partner worked in a very female led environment for many years and none of his work relationships ever gave me this feeling, he was just open about who he spoke to and was happy for me to meet them, no weird vibes, no saying they looked good. He has left now he has another job with more men and he just treats everyone the same and talks about them the same way male or female. You do not sound controlling you sound savvy enough to know something is off. I think it’s a good boundary to lay out to him. I’m sorry this sounds shit for you

user1471517057 · 14/10/2024 21:22

He’s full of shit and knows exactly what he’s playing at. Tosser.

DoloresHargreeves · 14/10/2024 21:21

I have a few male friends, including colleagues. I text them semi regularly, we talk on the phone and we meet up when convenient. I have never exchanged regular selfies with any of them. In fact, I never have exchanged regular selfies with anyone (male or female) who I wasn't attracted to. I've also never gone on secret dog walks or tried to create drama around a partner having anxiety. And I would never in a thousand years push a relationship with a colleague if they have told me their wife wasn't happy with it.

You know the difference OP! This ain't friendship. They might not have done anything, but there will be an attraction.

DoloresHargreeves · 14/10/2024 21:17

CocoPlum · 14/10/2024 20:18

I'm sure the cool wives will tell you you are being over the top.

But I've been you (husband had a friendship with a woman at work, I wad suspicious and told I was overreacting, he left me, funnily enough they live together now) and if it happened again I would trust my gut.

I self ID as a cool wife and wouldn't be ok with this.

idriveaVauxhallZafira · 14/10/2024 21:12

Merryoldgoat · 14/10/2024 20:29

My DH has a female work friend. He really values their friendship for lots of reasons and they meet for coffee now and again but you KNOW the difference - there is zero vibe. It’s palpable when there’s an attraction.

This is totally it. You definitely know the difference. You're not coming across as policing his friendships at all. When you know you know and this isn't passing the vibes check.

Luciev · 14/10/2024 21:12

Dotto · 14/10/2024 21:12

YANBU. Does he tell his male work friends they 'have a connection', send them selfies and and hide walks with them, from you?

Hahahaha nope - so on point there.

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Dotto · 14/10/2024 21:12

YANBU. Does he tell his male work friends they 'have a connection', send them selfies and and hide walks with them, from you?

DontBother123 · 14/10/2024 21:09

I couldn’t be fucked with this sly sneaky behaviour. Get rid of him and leave them to it. You don’t have to hang around for the shitshow you know is coming.

Luciev · 14/10/2024 21:08

RedBulb · 14/10/2024 21:04

How many other friends does he see outside of work? I’m all for men and women being able to be friends, but it feels like he is making efforts to keep you both separate. I had many male friendships when younger, and it was hard when they found partners and pulled away, but I accepted it for what it was and respected the boundaries.

He has been in the U.K 4 years. So doesn’t have many friends here. We have mutual female friends and one of them texts him a lot - there is NO PROBLEM for me there. We all go out together - this feels different. But I was worried I was bringing past experienced and applying it to this situation hence my ask from MN 🥰

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