To think it's wrong to refuse to put a father on the birth certificate

From a parent with PR? Let's hope you never have to test that claim out.

I think it’s worse to put the wrong father on the birth certificate for medical reasons

You can't protect her from someone who has parental responsibility for her.

You wouldn't be if your ex was abusive and he had PR, there are women who have had to hand their kids over to abusers or get arrested and the ex would get to be the RP.

These men will use whatever power they are given, but they often don't bother to do anything that isn't handed to them in a plate.

My friend's daughter, who has returned from visitation with nasty bruises from her father, has had the police turn up at her door to ensure that she still hands her over for weekend contact.

It's destroying my friend that she can't protect her daughter. You have a very rosy view of what 'reporting' someone with parental responsibility of a child can achieve.

Oh, and if she withholds contact, her ex takes her back to court and has her marked as being obstructive. She's never been able to take the child on holiday out of the country because if she books anything, he immediately takes her to court to prevent it. She can't get the child therapy, because he threatens the providers if they see the child without his permission, he's done the same to the brownie leader.

Now, he's malicious enough that even if he wasn't on the birth certificate he'd have got himself added, but this idea that you can protect your child from a determined abusive parent is just not the reality.

The very first reply mentioned it, but @HorsePeopleAreStablePeople
Parents do not have rights.

My son is now 32.
I met his dad abroad, short ish relationship and we split while I was pregnant.
When my son was born I also had the blank box next to father's name.
The country we met in was neither my country or his, it was pre social media and mobiles and, for various reasons, it took me 16 years to track him down, but within 8 weeks of this I took my son to meet him.
I was in the UK, he was in Australia.
For me, it was so important for my son to know his heritage, his roots, and have his dad's name on the birth certificate.
I was able to add his dad's name to a reissued birth certificate when he was 17.

There is no answer to this one.
If the father is decent and wants to get involved, then the mother is wrong not to add him to the certificate.
If he is an idiot with abusive behaviour and does not even want to be involved, why give him any control? That could turn to harm to the child later on.

Fathers can, and do sometimes, take parental rights from mothers.same as above. All depends on the individual parent.

The reason for OPs thread is that she disagrees on another thread that an alcoholic drug user should not be named on the birth certificate. If OP is happy to hand her child over to an alcoholic drug user, I think that says more about her parenting than the other OP.

I'm not an idiot. I know you can't force a man to be on the birth certificate, but I didn't say that did I? I was referring to men being denied the opportunity to be on the birth certificate because the mother simply doesn't want them to be on there.

But they're not - there's a straightforward process to get themselves put onto it. No-one's stopping a father going on the birth certificate if he wants to.

The thing is, a birth certificate isn't a factual record of a child's parentage. It's often used as a method of control.

Oh good . Because that’s exactly how the system currently works. HTH.

Example of father with custody and parental rights on show today. Who wouldn't attempt to present that if foreseen?

You said that of course they shouldn’t be forced to have their name of the BC.

Why?

I thought it was about the child though? So surely you think he should be forced? Or is only women who have to be forced to do shit entirely against their own interests just to massage the ego of shitty men?

Do you actually think it's good for kids to be forced to see their dad's when their dad's have been abusive to their mum?
If my dad had advised my mum I'd bloody hope I'd be protected from him.

Dear god, you have a pp who was raped by her child's father, what thinking could she have done to avoid this?

I hope this isn't your real view because you know abuse is likely to start during pregnancy? Also, my ex promised he would be a great father, we talked and talked before I became pregnant how we would raise our children. It has been nothing like this but how was I to know? I loved and trusted him.

I did not tell my child’s ‘father’ her DOB or registry date to protect her and myself. He is an alcoholic rapist and abuser and if ‘denying his parental rights’ makes me the bad guy in your eyes I’m more than happy to wear that with pride. You clearly have no idea of the consequences of giving men like that parental rights.

It's only ever been a factual reflection on who the mother is. The man's name has always been her husband's or no one if she's not married.

That's not what the birth certificate system is.

That's a very old figure and comes from the days where there was a stigma with divorce and women were trapped in marriage.. Do you seriously think one in 10 women are sleeping and getting pregnant with men other than their partner nowadays? We have DNA tests.