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AIBU to apply for 9 certificates in respect of pregnancy loss.

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LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 14/10/2024 17:30

I am open to all view on this, but please be sensitive in your replies. I am find myself quite emotional as I write.

I am now aged 57. I have 3 children. I know that I am am so very fortunate. Along the way we endured the loss of 9 other pregnancies. 3 of them quite late on (after 12 weeks). 2 of them were "chemical". All of them were significantly mourned.

We had our DS when I was nearly 45 (having had DD1 at age 34 and DD 2 at age 37). Had any other of the pregnancies "stuck" we would have been unlikely to have had DS as we would have probably stopped at 3.

Although my pregnancy loss has not defined me, it has marked me. DH has always been supportive, but he does not mourn the losses any longer as I do; I know as I have asked him and he is fairly forthright.

I do not know what I am looking for really. As a woman who is now post menopausal and who has living children it maybe seems a bit indulgent to apply for the certificates for my 9 "lost" pregnancies. I have mentioned it to DH. He is supportive of the idea, but I clearly sense it is because he wants me to be content, rather than thinking it is a good idea in itself.

The situation is complicated by the fact that for 2 of the pregnancies I no longer have an exact date. I recall the fact of the pregnancy and the swift loss thereof, but those were over 20 years ago and not a medical event like the others, so I would have to estimate the date. I would not want to apply for certificates for some of them and not others

So my question is, AIBU to go to the trouble of applying for certificates for 9 lost pregnancies?

OP posts:
MyLifeMyChoices · 14/10/2024 20:46

Tomorrowisyesterday · 14/10/2024 20:01

I have thought about this, but I have not told my 2 ds and if I had the certificates they would one day find them, possibly after my death. Which I think would be very awkward.
I have a bracelet to remember them by.
I do think it is a good thing to have this option.

You might decide to tell them. My child at 6 had it explained that pregnancy does not always go smoothly. I believe it is important to tell your story to those close to you and normalise these things. Only when I had an ectopic pregnancy and was open about it and my aunts were told did 2 of them talk about having had them themselves when younger. It was never discussed with their siblings at the time which is a real shame as they could have supported each other.

I am not personally keen on the certificates retrospectively, my losses were very difficult and emotional at the time but I try and view them as medical events I have moved on from. They a very real part of my history and I am not sure what I would do with a certificate.

I would like pregnancy loss recorded better as a whole moving forward and I like that it is more widely discussed and acknowledged.

MsTeatime · 14/10/2024 20:40

You should apply if it will help OP. Do you know how these are administered? Can you apply for the loss of a baby in multiple pregnancy where there were surviving siblings?

Relearningbehaviour · 14/10/2024 20:22

How do you do this please?

DoYouReally · 14/10/2024 20:16

It's no way unreasonable or indulgent at all.

Tomorrowisyesterday · 14/10/2024 20:01

I have thought about this, but I have not told my 2 ds and if I had the certificates they would one day find them, possibly after my death. Which I think would be very awkward.
I have a bracelet to remember them by.
I do think it is a good thing to have this option.

SophiaCohle · 14/10/2024 19:55

Of course you would not be unreasonable. Flowers

I would very much like to apply for one for my eldest child but sadly I don't think I can, as I think I need the permission of her father who is deceased now.

LouiseTopaz · 14/10/2024 19:21

I'm requesting a certificate, for me it's a bit of recognition that my baby existed. I found it hard having to act like nothing happened and society expects us to just move on.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 14/10/2024 19:21

You should do whatever you think best. If you want 9, apply for 9.

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 14/10/2024 19:19

Thank you to everyone who has posted. It is the fact of opening the scheme up to include my earlier losses that has prompted this enquiry.

I am surprised at the breakdown of the voting vs the comments.

I am very grateful to everyone who has posted. And in particular to those who have been similarly affected.

OP posts:
MrsEmmelinePankhurst · 14/10/2024 19:15

You do whatever you need to do OP, you are definitely not being unreasonable in applying for 9 certificates. I am really sorry for your losses, and I hope the certificates are helpful to you. You are very brave to post about this.

💐 to everyone who has suffered a loss.

Beekeepingmum · 14/10/2024 19:08

It really doesn't matter if anyone else thinks you are reasonable or unreasonable. These are personal - if you will benefit in anyway, even if it is a small way, do it.

AddictedToBooks · 14/10/2024 19:00

C152 · 14/10/2024 18:17

I am sorry for your losses, OP. You can only apply for certificates for baby loss that occurred from 2018 onwards.

You can apply from any date now, effective from this Monday.
We applied for our eldest daughter who we lost in 1998 x

NowStartAgain · 14/10/2024 19:00

Personal choice. If it feels helpful to you then of course apply.

I had 3 early losses when I hadn’t yet had 12 week scans and for those I wouldn’t want a certificate myself. Like you, I don’t know exact dates anymore as it was a long time ago. I hadn’t in those situations calculated due dates or thought about names so I am not sure what the certification would say.

Elphamouche · 14/10/2024 18:55

Fuck knows who’s voting unreasonable!

DH wants to get one for our baby, I’m not ready yet. But we will.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 14/10/2024 18:50

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 14/10/2024 18:43

I find it unfathomable that 63% of people have voted that you would be unreasonable. Of course you wouldn't be. If you feel it would bring you any measure of comfort of closure, you should absolutely do it. I'm so sorry for your many losses.

Yeah, I was shocked by that. What could possibly be unreasonable?

MissMarplesGoddaughter · 14/10/2024 18:50

You are not being unreasonable.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 14/10/2024 18:49

I'm so very sorry for all of your losses.

I think it's a very personal thing, and while I absolutely don't feel the need to do this for myself, I think it is absolutely reasonable to apply if you feel that the certificates would be helpful and meaningful to you. They have been introduced for the benefit of those who value them, so all that matters in this situation is that it is clearly important for you to acknowledge each of the losses that you have suffered in this way.

I hope that doing so will bring you some peace and a sense that your losses have been recognised in some way.

Viviennemary · 14/10/2024 18:43

I think you do what you what helps you.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 14/10/2024 18:43

I find it unfathomable that 63% of people have voted that you would be unreasonable. Of course you wouldn't be. If you feel it would bring you any measure of comfort of closure, you should absolutely do it. I'm so sorry for your many losses.

C152 · 14/10/2024 18:41

AngelinaFibres · 14/10/2024 18:20

It changed last week. Anyone can apply for a certificate now no matter how long ago the loss was. They announced it last week because it was baby loss awareness week.

Really? I looked a few days ago and the website still had the 2018 cut off. I'm glad they've changed it. It seemed very cruel to finally allow this type of ackowledgement only to have a cut off point.

TickingAlongNicely · 14/10/2024 18:27

I've been feeling a bit wierd since the announcement. I have only one. I have two children. The first baby only really exists in my memory.

I don't know if a piece of paper will make it worse or better really. I'll have to explain to my daughters one day.

FiveDuckGyoza · 14/10/2024 18:23

I had seven losses and no children, but I am staying well clear of this process. Mine were all 15 - 20 years ago now, so I have had time to adjust and build a very good life, and just don’t want to reopen all the feelings of that time, which feels like another life to me. It is such a very personal thing, and I think if you want to, you should apply; but I hope nobody will judge anyone like me who chooses not to as somehow not caring enough. It really isn’t that even if it might look like it to someone making another choice.

AngelinaFibres · 14/10/2024 18:20

C152 · 14/10/2024 18:17

I am sorry for your losses, OP. You can only apply for certificates for baby loss that occurred from 2018 onwards.

It changed last week. Anyone can apply for a certificate now no matter how long ago the loss was. They announced it last week because it was baby loss awareness week.

mumda · 14/10/2024 18:19

Apply for all of them.

There's also this that I saw recently as they've put one in the local town hall.

https://www.pointsoflight.gov.uk/postbox-to-heaven/

Postbox to Heaven - Points of Light

Creating 'Postbox to Heaven'

https://www.pointsoflight.gov.uk/postbox-to-heaven

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