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To not recognise Kemi Badenoch's views on ASD?

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Locutus2000 · 14/10/2024 15:22

The likely next leader of His Majesty's opposition

The Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch has been criticised for a campaign pamphlet that said autistic people received “better treatment” and “economic privileges and protections”.

A pamphlet published by Badenoch’s campaign team at the Conservative party conference argued that conditions such as anxiety, as well as an autism diagnosis, had gone from something “people should work on themselves as individuals” to “something that society, schools, and employers have to adapt around”

I'd love to know what improved treatment and economic privileges I should be getting - maybe I forgot to apply.

What do Kemi supporters find attractive?

Badenoch criticised for pamphlet’s ‘stigmatising’ remarks on autism

Former cabinet colleague of Tory leadership candidate says ‘muddled’ campaign essay does not take ‘correct approach’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/14/kemi-badenoch-conservative-leadership-autism-campaign-pamphlet

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Paw5 · 14/10/2024 17:53

Skirtandshirt · 14/10/2024 16:09

What do Kemi supporters find attractive

”She knows what a woman is!!!” 🙄

WTAF!!! So she’s massively ableist and decrying disabled people getting reasonable adjustments and you trot this out.

Paw5 · 14/10/2024 17:51

Oh my goodness that’s appalling, does she not realise autism is a protected disability!!😱

SerendipityJane · 14/10/2024 17:47

St. Kemi who KWAWI ? Surely not ! I thought she was the saviour of everyone of us all ? (To the tune of "Flash !" by Queen)

There must be some mistake. Maybe another Kemi Badenoch ?

pizzaHeart · 14/10/2024 17:19

Singleandproud · 14/10/2024 16:02

No publicity is bad publicity though. Kemis had at least 8 different threads on MN over the last few days and whilst it might not be good for her I bet it works in favour for the Tory's overall. They need to out reform Reform and get the dissenters back and crap like this may well do it.

Tbh they can have people who buy this crap back.

whiskeyarmadillo · 14/10/2024 16:38

I'm autistic as are two of my children. There is no privilege. Our lives are so difficult because of our autism.

Pernicious, offensive and factually wrong. This is the modern Conservative Party? Fuck the Tories.

sprigatito · 14/10/2024 16:38

There will be thousands of people reading this post and quietly thinking "well, I agree with her", unfortunately. They're on every thread where a struggling parent is struggling to get reasonable adjustments made at school, or an autistic person is struggling at work. They're agitating to get children with SEN removed from their own child's classroom, or they're sending their kids to private schools to avoid pupils with SEN and then complaining that they're still having to share resources with them. Badenoch may be the intellectual equivalent of a crack-addicted honey badger, but her advisers know there are plenty of British voters who won't be deterred by this sort of bigotry.

Locutus2000 · 14/10/2024 16:31

SpudleyLass · 14/10/2024 16:30

Also, children without disabilities- not just ASD - absolutely fo also get home to school transport.

She needs to stop huffing paint

Huffing paint is surely too lower class for our Kemi.

My money's on a whole load of cocaine. As with many tories.

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SpudleyLass · 14/10/2024 16:30

Also, children without disabilities- not just ASD - absolutely fo also get home to school transport.

She needs to stop huffing paint

Locutus2000 · 14/10/2024 16:30

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 14/10/2024 16:27

What do Kemi supporters find attractive?

It's just the standard fare of picking a group and saying "look, they're getting all this stuff that you aren't getting, isn't it unfair!" while wilfully ignoring any context, or actual facts.

To my mind this is evil in action. Maybe it's my 'autistic privilege' talking...

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DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 14/10/2024 16:27

What do Kemi supporters find attractive?

It's just the standard fare of picking a group and saying "look, they're getting all this stuff that you aren't getting, isn't it unfair!" while wilfully ignoring any context, or actual facts.

MrsHemswoth · 14/10/2024 16:25

I live in her constituency and she is very disliked and it's building... she only just about clung on to her seat at the last election!! She may even lose her seat as this area is becoming increasingly liberal minded and far less right wing thank goodness!!! Many families moved out to Essex from London since the pandemic and many Londoners and their families are less rightwing, hence a Labour mayor. I think if she becomes leader it's will be curtains for the Tory's!!

SpudleyLass · 14/10/2024 16:25

What economic privileges are there to being autistic, exactly?

I had to drop out of the workforce for two years in order to secure appropriate support for my autistic non verbal daughter who has a genetic disorder.

As ever, DLA and Pip are about care needs and not diagnosis.

It really is awful she is trying to appeal to the ignorant masses who fail to understand this point.

Coruscations · 14/10/2024 16:20

How stupid do you have to be not to able to work out that most autistic people would happily swap their supposed advantages in return for not having to deal with the much greater disadvantages?

I gather Sunak always thought Badenoch was dim and incompetent, and only appointed her a minister to appease the right wing. Looks like he was correct.

Skirtandshirt · 14/10/2024 16:18

ImNoSuperman · 14/10/2024 16:14

They all know what a woman is. Most of them are too scared to piss off violent, mentally ill men to say it.

It’s not that she is some fearless truth-teller. It’s just that she already has a base who welcomes “telling it like it is” on trans issues, alongside other issues they regard as indulgences of the guardianistas.

If her base were pro-trans she’d be out there getting photo ops with Dylan Mulvaney or whatever. She’s empty.

username3678 · 14/10/2024 16:16

She's perfect as leader of the Tories if you want them to be a shambles for a long time. She's come after maternity pay, immigrants, the mentally ill and the autistic.

RamblingEclectic · 14/10/2024 16:16

I sadly do recognise those views, though from nearly 20 years ago when my kids were small. I even knew a paediatrician back then who largely held similar views, even put in writing that my son's communication difficulties and 'odd cadence to speech' were because I have a foreign accent. It's frustrating to see them still around.

The pamphlet is amusing in a grim way that it's clear they have no idea on the law - diagnosis is not the legal criteria to meet the disability part of the Equality Act.

ImNoSuperman · 14/10/2024 16:14

Skirtandshirt · 14/10/2024 16:09

What do Kemi supporters find attractive

”She knows what a woman is!!!” 🙄

They all know what a woman is. Most of them are too scared to piss off violent, mentally ill men to say it.

Thedogscollar · 14/10/2024 16:13

Badenoch and Jenrick cut from the same cloth. They don't think before they speak.
Jenrick accused British special forces of killing rather than capturing terrorists.

Obviously one of them will be the next leader of the Tories but I'd bet my house on it whoever wins will last a year max.

TeamPlaying · 14/10/2024 16:13

I suspect her target audience is people whose views are bigoted, but they would never admit them and want to pat themselves on the back about how progressive they are for voting for a black woman. Plenty of those in the Conservative Party ranks.

CommanderHaysPaperKnife · 14/10/2024 16:12

it's almost like she's saying controversial stuff just to get attention 🤔

ImNoSuperman · 14/10/2024 16:11

Whether she actually believes it or not she is making her opinion very clear to appeal to the people who agree with it. The people who don't have autistic children but who feel their children are impacted in school because of a child who is (there are plenty of threads on here about it), people who struggle with working and paying for childcare and think that other parents who have badly behaved children (again plenty of threads here about using ADHD/autism for poor behaviour) get more help.
This tactic is to appeal to people who don't already vote Tory more than the ones who do. Sow dissent and demonise working mothers and now autistic children (more benefit bashing).

CommanderHaysPaperKnife · 14/10/2024 16:11

Skirtandshirt · 14/10/2024 16:09

What do Kemi supporters find attractive

”She knows what a woman is!!!” 🙄

even a stopped clock is right twice day

Skirtandshirt · 14/10/2024 16:09

What do Kemi supporters find attractive

”She knows what a woman is!!!” 🙄

MrTwatchester · 14/10/2024 16:08

They'll try out-Reforming Reform, and it will be a disaster. They'll need to go through their Hague, IDS and maybe even Howard phase before they land on another appealing centrist like Cameron and get back into power. There's really no point even talking about whoever wins this contest.

Skirtandshirt · 14/10/2024 16:07

The country is in flames (with not much sign of the current government having a solid plan to fix any of the key issues) and both Tory leadership candidates focus on absolutely empty culture wars bullshit like this.

It’s what I expect from the Tories of course, but I still despair. Where are the strong leaders with real vision? We have not needed them
more in my lifetime.

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