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To not recognise Kemi Badenoch's views on ASD?

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Locutus2000 · 14/10/2024 15:22

The likely next leader of His Majesty's opposition

The Tory leadership candidate Kemi Badenoch has been criticised for a campaign pamphlet that said autistic people received “better treatment” and “economic privileges and protections”.

A pamphlet published by Badenoch’s campaign team at the Conservative party conference argued that conditions such as anxiety, as well as an autism diagnosis, had gone from something “people should work on themselves as individuals” to “something that society, schools, and employers have to adapt around”

I'd love to know what improved treatment and economic privileges I should be getting - maybe I forgot to apply.

What do Kemi supporters find attractive?

Badenoch criticised for pamphlet’s ‘stigmatising’ remarks on autism

Former cabinet colleague of Tory leadership candidate says ‘muddled’ campaign essay does not take ‘correct approach’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/14/kemi-badenoch-conservative-leadership-autism-campaign-pamphlet

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Soukmyfalafel · 14/10/2024 19:25

There was a good programme on TV recently called I Am Not OK and looked at the lack of respite care to parents of children with ASD and severe LD who frequently attacked their parents/trashed their homes. 3/4 of parents of children going through the SEND system have to cut hours/give up work due to a lack of support in place. I'd love her to watch that programme and actually FUCKING LOOK AT THE STATISTICS and then list the so called privileges. Perhaps she's not a numbers person......

SerendipityJane · 14/10/2024 19:16

Paw5 · 14/10/2024 18:09

The 2010 Equality Act which protects disabilities including autism is still in force.

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Not when the Tories get back in.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/10/2024 19:15

taeglas · 14/10/2024 19:05

Response by The National Autistic Society
https://www.autism.org.uk/what-we-do/news/the-national-autistic-society-has-responded-to-kem

Brilliant response from them. Badenoch, devoid of ideas and knowledge, is continuing her ridiculous Culture wars using autistic people.

Autistic children aren't the problem. They are not responsible for the dire state of the country. That's all down to the Tories who have received lots of economic advantages for not doing well at the job while complaining that none of it is their fault.

Is being Tory a condition?🤔

taeglas · 14/10/2024 19:05

Response by The National Autistic Society
https://www.autism.org.uk/what-we-do/news/the-national-autistic-society-has-responded-to-kem

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Locutus2000 · 14/10/2024 19:00

Fanpango · 14/10/2024 18:56

Can anyone link to the actual pamphlet? Some of the stuff she’s saying seems reasonable: “If we are to resolve the problem of deteriorating mental health, we must be able to point out that it is happening and how society has changed its approach to it and determine whether that approach is working,” they said.”

“The essay said it was positive there was more openness around mental health, but the requirement for schools and workplaces to make adjustments for it had “created costs and failed to improve people’s mental health outcomes”.

This link should work

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DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 14/10/2024 18:56

I imagine she’s mostly talking about the trend of people ‘self-identifying’ as neurodiverse or self-diagnosing anxiety using TikTok.

She isn't though. Because she specifically talks about all these amazing benefits you get "if you have a neurodiversity diagnosis" (and to continue her ignorance, she lists anxiety alongside autism as an example of this).

Fanpango · 14/10/2024 18:56

Can anyone link to the actual pamphlet? Some of the stuff she’s saying seems reasonable: “If we are to resolve the problem of deteriorating mental health, we must be able to point out that it is happening and how society has changed its approach to it and determine whether that approach is working,” they said.”

“The essay said it was positive there was more openness around mental health, but the requirement for schools and workplaces to make adjustments for it had “created costs and failed to improve people’s mental health outcomes”.

Fanpango · 14/10/2024 18:50

TheSnugHare · 14/10/2024 18:44

Can something be done about what she’s said? Does it come under instigating hate towards autistic people?

😂mumsnet is such a tolerant place. It’s not ‘hate’ to say something some people disagree with or find unpalatable.

I imagine she’s mostly talking about the trend of people ‘self-identifying’ as neurodiverse or self-diagnosing anxiety using TikTok.

LadyKenya · 14/10/2024 18:48

JohnTheRevelator · 14/10/2024 18:25

Ghastly woman.

She was quite the darling on here not too long ago, when she was saying things that appealed to certain people on here, funny how the worm has turned. She is a vile woman, she always has been.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/10/2024 18:45

She is stupid and cruel. Which she reminds us of regularly.

But if the Tory membership decide to elect her, who am I to argue? I'll laugh myself silly at their coniuing death spiral and be grateful they're no longer in power.😁

TheSnugHare · 14/10/2024 18:44

Can something be done about what she’s said? Does it come under instigating hate towards autistic people?

TheSnugHare · 14/10/2024 18:34

Autism is a disability, and any interventions or accommodations made for Autistic people are put in place for them to feel more comfortable or give them more opportunities to achieve things. Not every autistic or disabled person can access them even if they need them, and I think you’ll find that if you remove them, their mental health and productivity will plummet anyway.

LetThereBeLove · 14/10/2024 18:29

MrTwatchester · 14/10/2024 15:43

Pretty standard for the trounced opposition to go through a couple of complete duds as leaders while they regroup. There's no point expecting any real contenders for a good few years.

Boris is just biding his time.

JohnTheRevelator · 14/10/2024 18:25

Ghastly woman.

DoubleShotEspresso · 14/10/2024 18:25

As if we required confirmation of what utter pond life this poor excuse for a human this woman is.

Vile, abhorrent & desperate for shock value attention.

Paw5 · 14/10/2024 18:23

She sounds just like Trump.

A leader who doesn’t enlighten themselves with legalities before they spout off complete rubbish would be a horrendous leader even by Tory standards.

EUmumforever · 14/10/2024 18:19

She knows what a woman is, apparently, but doesn’t know what autism and depression are, wow!
She is a not very intelligent climber who will say anything. I am sure she was a bully at school.

Paw5 · 14/10/2024 18:09

SerendipityJane · 14/10/2024 18:01

Not when the UK is out of the ECHR it's not.

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The 2010 Equality Act which protects disabilities including autism is still in force.

SerendipityJane · 14/10/2024 18:08

bitsalty · 14/10/2024 18:02

Exactly and the rest can be forgiven if they support one issue.

She's a vile POS.

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So over qualified as Tory leader, really.

bitsalty · 14/10/2024 18:02

Skirtandshirt · 14/10/2024 16:09

What do Kemi supporters find attractive

”She knows what a woman is!!!” 🙄

Exactly and the rest can be forgiven if they support one issue.

She's a vile POS.

Soukmyfalafel · 14/10/2024 18:01

I see there are lots of posters agreeing with her point of view 😂

SerendipityJane · 14/10/2024 18:01

Paw5 · 14/10/2024 17:51

Oh my goodness that’s appalling, does she not realise autism is a protected disability!!😱

Not when the UK is out of the ECHR it's not.

ilovesooty · 14/10/2024 18:01

Recon · 14/10/2024 17:56

That poster was surely being sarcastic. Mocking Badenoch supporters?

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That's how I read it. There's a core of support who'll overlook all the ableist stuff Badenoch spouts because "she knows what a woman is".

Jessie1259 · 14/10/2024 18:01

Took me 4 years of asking just to get DS sat that the front of his classes as he can't filter out distractions, didn't cost anyone anything but still took 4 years! NHS offered us a badly photocopied book list. If only Kemi had pointed us in the direction of all these 'privileges' at the time we'd have been very grateful.

Recon · 14/10/2024 17:56

Paw5 · 14/10/2024 17:53

WTAF!!! So she’s massively ableist and decrying disabled people getting reasonable adjustments and you trot this out.

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That poster was surely being sarcastic. Mocking Badenoch supporters?