To not recognise Kemi Badenoch's views on ASD?

My son's was refused - our la basically refuse all requests and they have to be taken to tribunal.

My friend has a daughter who is diagnosed and none verbal. She starts school next year (summer born so was deferred) The Sen school only takes pupils with a diagnosis AND and ehcps already in place. But her la are refusing ALL reception age children and younger on the basis that they can wait until year one. She was literally told this by the LA's senco. They are going ahead to tribunal and are hoping to get it in time for her to go to the special school, but the likelihood is that it will take too long. She'll have to attend mainstream in reception and struggle, then hope she can move to the Sen school later.

How exactly is any of this "just saying the right thing at the right time" or "being lazy"??

clearly not people who work for me FFS

run my own successful business. I have zero patience for lazy fakers and I seem to be surrounded by them

What type of business is this that you are surrounding yourself with "lazy fakers"?

As an aside, I’m not sure I’m comfortable with Badenoch being held to a different standard of empathy due to being a black female. Many white women work full time to support the patriarchy when it’s in their interests.

As a mixed raced woman I notice there’s often an expectation that a black woman’s role is to support everyone else and if they don’t do this some people get entitled and angry. I can’t stand Badenoch and am against everything she says but she has a right to be as selfish as anyone else. Black woman are not the worlds social workers.

She’s a v right wing, deliberately polarising character. The Tory Nigel Farage.

I think we need to focus on the quality of the candidate. It she is an utter laughing stock and keeps putting her foot in it, it is only going to be bad news for other potential PMs who are WOC.

Truss did not do anything to help future female PMs.

Likewise having WOC in roles being completely divisive, like home secretary or leader of the opposition, is just not going to end well either.

'Straight talking' is just another term that really means 'can't be arsed to do any detailed research before opening their mouth and being divisive'. The public do see through that. I don't mind straight talking and honesty if it comes from an informed place and actually serves the public (which is what they are employed to do), but it doesn't. It comes from laziness. The fact that she doesn't understand that special school places are limited and kids have to travel miles to them (therefore need funded transport), but still happens to shoot her mouth off about it being a privilege is a sign of a very lazy, poor quality politician. It is needed because there isn't provision close to where people live. She doesn't even seem to understand the actual legislation that underpins special education either and why it exists.

There are self serving grifters in every group. She, like Braverman believes she and her loved ones will be treated differently so will say anything for money and power egged on by some shady people on the shadows. I wonder if either of them would have felt safe walking close to one of the summer riots?

I also agree. I think the centrists realise the extremists need to fully burn out or split the party for the party to rise again. A couple of years of Jenrick or Badenoch will result in total humiliation. Cleverly will come back in a couple of years and push them back to the centre and make them electable again like Cameron.

I assure you that getting a EHCP is just a matter of saying the right things at the right time. Given my experience I was pretty good at it. I also know a great deal of people who have got themselves signed off and special treatment for a wide variety of different things that really don't affect them working at all, but yet they still sponge off you and me. And plenty of people are diagnosed with autism without strong evidence, its just a matter of paying for the referral and making the right noises.

I'm autistic. I run my own successful business. I have zero patience for lazy fakers and I seem to be surrounded by them.

You would think being from a minority group that required laws to be brought in to protect against racism and exclusion in employment she would have more empathy towards other groups that suffer prejudice.

Well they are pretty hard of thinking then aren't they? The shit state of services is probably going to cost more in the long run, because you also have to treat the disability and then the MH issues too.

Utter idiots.

It is annoying that it is assumed carers of these children don't work. Even services wrongly assume this and even the people who run support groups. I can't access any support because it's only offered in office hours because I'm bloody working! It is probably because so many people are actually forced out of their jobs and have to claim benefits because of the dire state of education and children's services. 3/4 parents have to change or reduce hours or give up work entirely to accommodate their children's needs because of no holiday/after school clubs, or because they are out of school or on a reduced time table. Sometimes just because of the stress of it all. If they don't like reliance on benefits then sort the bloody issues out. 😒

Well removing transport can only make parents of disabled kids more employable right?

If she objects to the provision of school transport, how does she suggest parents of disabled children get them to school when there are not enough special schools so their school is miles away? Has she not noticed that many disabled children tend to go to a different school from their siblings?

Have you tried to get extra help for your son? Surely you realise that it really is not a case of just being able to say "My child is sick, I want special treatment for him?" It's incredibly hard to get an EHCP, you really do not get one without strong professional evidence. Likewise no-one is diagnosed with autism without strong evidence. If we don't make basic accommodations for autism, we risk losing a lot of valuable people from the working population.

I agree.

I think Jenrick will win this leadership contest, but that Cleverly will be the leader for the next election.

I can't think of anything she says that I agree with. She constantly makes ill informed and sweeping statements with no evidence or great thought. Both candidates for the conservative party's are terrible abs and trying to prove themselves the most right wing.
I doubt that either of them will still be leader of their party by the time we have another general election

God I hope she doesn't get in. The combination of a new and completely inexperienced government and a leader of the opposition who does nothing but go down rabbit holes and talk bollocks is really not what this country needs. Although Jenrick is also horrific.

"I think the general point, that we allow far too many people to say they are sick and need special treatment is absolutely true."

Nobody gets school transport or equipment because they just say they are sick.
Any support given to autistic children requires evidence and generally a number of professionals.

@GherkinJar she also complains about autistic employees having protections, getting reasonable adjustments etc. with a telling emphasis on how you don't have to disclose anything until after you've been hired. So I think her views on businesses being allowed to not hire someone because they're autistic are clear.

But it's ok - her spokesman has said it "would be wrong to infer any prejudice".

I'm autistic.
My son is Autistic.
If I get the chance, I will be voting for Kemi to be prime minister.

I think the general point, that we allow far too many people to say they are sick and need special treatment is absolutely true. More people have to just suck it up because the rest of us who are working can't keep carrying them all.

What a dreadful post. It’s not views I’ve seen anywhere other than MN. Only 3% of the population have autism it’s hardly huge and autism is a protected disability so those with it should be accessing reasonable adjustments the same as everybody else with a disability.

Actually the pamphlet does spend a lot of time complaining about employment protections going too far. Largely woolly words but aimed at Conservatives that think that reasonable adjustments for those with autism or mental health issues are a burden.

Personally I'd like my child to have the opportunity to work in the future - for their own mental health and to be a part of wider society. It would also reduce their dependence on the state.

So I dont feel that the pamphlet is in anyway financially literate.
Short term savings in exchange for longer term costs - which they will then choose to penalise the disabled for.

Please don’t ever let this woman be PM.

And it only relates to children... Does she realise that autistic adults exist and we certainly don't benefit economically?

The pamphlet specifically attacks school transport (which you only get if your school is a distance away or you are unable to navigate alone) and equipment.

Neither of these things are handed out willy nilly and it is facetious to suggest otherwise.