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To think England is a bit boring?

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Annalikesblue · 14/10/2024 12:44

I'm from England originally. I was working abroad for a long time.

I moved back recently to work, and for a family reason. I probably won't stay here forever. Maybe for two to three years max.

Do any of you think that England is a bit boring?

Every street, wherever you go,
has the exact same shops.

The Weather is bad. People are miserable. When you go to groups, people are so serious.

It just seems so dull and lifeless

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RedToothBrush · 14/10/2024 14:58

Ok.

Where's better?

The UK can be dull, but drive just a couple of hours and you can do so much stuff.

Large parts of the USA do not have this option. Does this make the USA really really dull?

It's a stupid generalisation.

Not liking the weather is subjective too.

I find some European countries great to visit but even more 'dull' in terms of mediocrity and blandness. They are 'nice'. I'd rather have a bit of edge at times rather than a culture that leans more towards conformity.

And even if I lived somewhere with 'great weather' all the time it wouldn't be great. For starters I hate real hot days and sunshine cos I can't do anything because I burn so easily and it's too hot to do anything at all. At least the rain doesn't stop me doing things most of the time. It's just a bit damp.

MrsAvocet · 14/10/2024 14:54

I don't think the weather has to stop you doing things here. Not very often anyway. I live in the far North of England and I can't remember the last time the weather prevented me from going out. Yes, there's days when I change my plans because of the weather- I wouldn't go up a mountain in snow and ice or deliberately sail in a gale for instance - but it's rare that the weather is so bad that you can't find anything to do or that it's dangerous. My niece in Florida, having just had to face 2 hurricanes in as many weeks is probably longing for a bit of boring British drizzle.
And as for the weather in Spain not being restrictive...come on, in large parts of the country things shut down for hours in the middle of the day because of the heat! In Madrid it's often oppressively hot in the Summer and really cold in the Winter. In the more northerly provinces like Galicia and Asturias it rains nearly as much as here.The weather has an impact on life everywhere but at least we don't often see the extremes that lots of countries are now doing where the weather doesn't just impact upon people's lives but threatens them.

Getitwright · 14/10/2024 14:52

I’d have to know which bits of England you consider boring before I could comment really. Where do you live, work, holiday for example? Don’t need specific town city, but area would suffice.

SallyWD · 14/10/2024 14:51

Mydogsleftearishalfcocked · 14/10/2024 13:32

This is such an unhelpful reply.

Reverse culture shock is a real thing.

And why is it not possible to say one word of complaint about the UK without someone saying, “well leave then”.

You don’t know the op’s circumstances, and it’s just a really crass and ignorant thing to say. Most people live where they do because of economic circumstances.

Op, having lived in several countries,
I wouldn’t describe the UK as boring.

I absolutely love the countryside, the seasons, the Stately homes, the architecture, the relative friendliness, the diversity, the sense of humour, the variety of food, the creativity.

However, in comparison to other EU countries, the running down of basic public services, makes the bits which make life worth living very hard. Things like affordable transport to see family and friends, accessible and affordable arts, good health care, basic security, nice public parks and libraries. The absence of these basic things which the state should be able to manage, and are managed well in other countries, make life a bit stressful and hard.

And the COLC makes things even harder when there is no money to spare and everything is run down to the bone.

People daren’t risk starting creative projects or social enterprises because of the costs.

I also think what it is lacking atm is proper leadership with a vision.

Post-Brexit I think the UK is going through a bit of an identity crisis tbh.

When you decide to leave the centrist left mainly Christian democratic EU, it kind of means you need something else to replace that position? But with what exactly? We don’t want to be Singapore on Sea or have a right wing society largely based on capitalist tenets to the exclusion of everything else?

But who and what do we want to be?

And even if we had a government with vision and competent, compassionate, capable, common sense politicians, we don’t really have the economic resources to follow their ideas through atm, so we are stagnating.

Spot on

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 14/10/2024 14:50

You're not unreasonable to think it's boring.

Personally, I bloody love it here. And I'm not unreasonable either 😍

The world don't move to the beat of just one drum .....

Notasunnydayhere · 14/10/2024 14:46

I don't recognise the England/UK you're describing OP. We live on the edge of a small town and there's so much going on. Something every day, plus lots of monthly/annual events. Large cities are a drive or train away, with all the culture they offer.

As for the weather, it's not always better elsewhere. Hot summers are getting hotter and torrential rain events more frequent (speaking from experience of living in mainland Europe).

MollyButton · 14/10/2024 14:45

I was at Disney once (we lived near London) and they wondered if we knew this other family from Manchester. People on the whole don't get our different nations, but here it is important to name the nation.

In fact the country is so homogeneous that it's ridiculous to say England is boring, do you mean London or Clovelly or Leeds or Chester or Ashby de la Zouch or...
Lots of High Streets are clones. Others are quirky and full of independent shops, for example compare the main shopping drag of Southampton to areas like Shirley.

You went to one craft group and it was unfriendly - then try another one.

I think your problem is a) you didn't really want to come back
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SallyWD · 14/10/2024 14:45

Maddy70 · 14/10/2024 14:13

I moved away to spain a few years ago. I honestly cant bear it when i return to visit family .Its soooooo boring. Nothing to do as the weather seems to impact everything.

Having spent a month in Asia this summer, I disagree! It was sooo hot and humid ther3 that I just couldn't exert myself. We had to be driven everywhere because of the heat. I thought, "How do people here stay fit?" It's so unpleasant even to walk for ten minutes.
We landed back in the UK and it was 18 degrees and cloudy. The kind of weather people complain about, but I loved it! For the first few days backs I walked for miles just because I could. It was so refreshing. I didn't feel restricted by the weather at all.

CoffeeCantata · 14/10/2024 14:42

I don't know where to start, OP.

I love England - its history, culture, countryside, literature, landscape, music.

I love its little country towns, its cathedrals, low hills, hedgerows, streams, old green lanes, cottages, churches. Also love the other countries in the UK, of course, but we're talking about England here.

I also love France with its crumbly medieval towns and so many more places (mostly in Europe, I admit) with interesting history and architecture.

What are you after? The Grand Canyon? Great Wall of China? The majestic Himalayas? Swaying palm trees and white sand? I admit it's no good for those!😃

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 14/10/2024 14:35

Annalikesblue · 14/10/2024 13:01

There are of course nice parts of the UK.

But im just going to have a little moan about the bad parts.

I just find the sense of isolation tough aswell.

You know in mainland Europe, you feel so connected to a lot of other countries and you can just hop on a train anywhere.

The UK feels quite isolated.

Edited

Ireland is the same. Being an island, like Britain, we are geographically cut off from (continental) Europe, but also somewhat culturally. How many of us on these islands would say "we are European"? Not many I'd say. We are European of course, but it's not something that we would put down as our identity. Europe (continental) feels connected. So many are multilingual, we very much are not.

Even in football, our teams (my own being Liverpool) who qualify for UEFA competitions, "play in Europe", as though it's some separate entity.

In Europe:
Drive on the left? Only us.
Use miles, yards, feet, inches? Only us.
Use common law? Only us.

Not being as connected though doesn't make here boring. It's probably the opposite as who wants the same?

The UK is a cultural superpower, being a global leader in literature, music, theatre, sport (oldest golf tournament in the world (the Open), oldest tennis tournament in the world (Wimbledon), oldest football club in the world, the most famous sports stadium in the world (Wembley)), television (BBC the world's oldest national broadcaster), comedy (British/Irish comedy cannot be surpassed), film (first moving picture filmed in Leeds; Roundhay Garden scene), the birthplace of Halloween, of modern Christmas customs (Dickens), etc etc.

There is also history wherever you walk (in London the blue plaques on buildings commemorating famous people and events). Over 1000 years of history, from castles in the 11th century to the world's first iron bridge in the late 18th century (an iconic symbol of the Industrial Revolution).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Bridge

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DiscontentedPig · 14/10/2024 14:30

Puts me in mind of the Mikado - "all centuries but this, and every country but his own."

WiserOlderElf · 14/10/2024 14:27

Maddy70 · 14/10/2024 14:13

I moved away to spain a few years ago. I honestly cant bear it when i return to visit family .Its soooooo boring. Nothing to do as the weather seems to impact everything.

Funny, we lived in Spain for 3 years and although we mainly loved it, we found the summer heat really restrictive, especially with the children. Now we’re back in the U.K. we can do so many things in the summer holidays that we couldn’t do in Spain.

italianlondongirl · 14/10/2024 14:26

To those saying that Italy and France has better food... yes the food is good in those countries, but it's very samey. In the UK there is so much choice! It might not be traditional British food ( though nothing beats a good roast imo), but there's variety.
In France, unless one is prepared to pay €€€ and be in a "fine dining " atmosphere, it's all steak frites /steak hâché frites.
There's also so much going on in Britain... culture/music/architecture/the countryside.
The only downside to Britain is the weather.

ByTealShaker · 14/10/2024 14:24

You’re comparing it to where you’ve lived aboard - where have you lived?

My parents lived in the states for around a decade and worked themselves into the ground. Now they’re back and are much happier. Grass isn’t always greener.

If you prefer wherever you’ve lived before, don’t let us hold you back!

Rosesandstars · 14/10/2024 14:21

I really think it depends where you live in England! For example when it comes to the weather, if you live in the North West it will rain/be dreary weather far more often than if you live in the South East.

England is a very beautiful country (as are Scotland, Wales and N.I) with stunning beaches, lots of greenery, limited wildlife. There are lots of historical buildings with interesting architecture. What types of things do you enjoy doing that aren't possible in England?

Strawberrypicnic · 14/10/2024 14:19

Mydogsleftearishalfcocked · 14/10/2024 13:32

This is such an unhelpful reply.

Reverse culture shock is a real thing.

And why is it not possible to say one word of complaint about the UK without someone saying, “well leave then”.

You don’t know the op’s circumstances, and it’s just a really crass and ignorant thing to say. Most people live where they do because of economic circumstances.

Op, having lived in several countries,
I wouldn’t describe the UK as boring.

I absolutely love the countryside, the seasons, the Stately homes, the architecture, the relative friendliness, the diversity, the sense of humour, the variety of food, the creativity.

However, in comparison to other EU countries, the running down of basic public services, makes the bits which make life worth living very hard. Things like affordable transport to see family and friends, accessible and affordable arts, good health care, basic security, nice public parks and libraries. The absence of these basic things which the state should be able to manage, and are managed well in other countries, make life a bit stressful and hard.

And the COLC makes things even harder when there is no money to spare and everything is run down to the bone.

People daren’t risk starting creative projects or social enterprises because of the costs.

I also think what it is lacking atm is proper leadership with a vision.

Post-Brexit I think the UK is going through a bit of an identity crisis tbh.

When you decide to leave the centrist left mainly Christian democratic EU, it kind of means you need something else to replace that position? But with what exactly? We don’t want to be Singapore on Sea or have a right wing society largely based on capitalist tenets to the exclusion of everything else?

But who and what do we want to be?

And even if we had a government with vision and competent, compassionate, capable, common sense politicians, we don’t really have the economic resources to follow their ideas through atm, so we are stagnating.

Great post!

Waitingfordoggo · 14/10/2024 14:17

@FrenchieMind Supermarkets in France (and Spain for that matter) really are fantastic!

IVFmumoftwo · 14/10/2024 14:16

Maddy70 · 14/10/2024 14:13

I moved away to spain a few years ago. I honestly cant bear it when i return to visit family .Its soooooo boring. Nothing to do as the weather seems to impact everything.

Weird thing to complain about because you are restricted in what you can do by the weather in Spain when it is boiling in summer.

Maddy70 · 14/10/2024 14:13

I moved away to spain a few years ago. I honestly cant bear it when i return to visit family .Its soooooo boring. Nothing to do as the weather seems to impact everything.

LlynTegid · 14/10/2024 14:11

I agree with you about 'clone towns' as they are sometimes called, and there is a great deal of division caused largely starting with the self inflicted economic wound called Brexit.

There is still a lot to like about England though, and even more I would argue in Wales and Scotland.

ILoveAnnaQuay · 14/10/2024 14:10

It depends. There are several towns in England where the High Streets have similar shops, but there are also loads where there are independent boutiques etc.

Lots of pubs are independent.

There's a wealth of historical buildings including castles, churches, stately homes etc.

Within a relatively short distance you can get from coasts, to mountains, to dales, to lowland. There's staggeringly beautiful scenery in many places.

But there are also some pretty awful places.

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 14/10/2024 14:07

I guess it depends on your personal situation. I don't know anyone who is depressed and miserable and having lived in lots of different countries, find the UK an amazing place to live. I love being back and have no plans to leave again.

IVFmumoftwo · 14/10/2024 14:07

FrenchieMind · 14/10/2024 14:05

I disagree. I'm from France and love living here. As a PP said, it depends of what you enjoy and where you are.

I love that here my kids have lots of opportunities despite us living quite rurally, lots of groups and sports.Where I grew up, there is absolutely nothing for kids.

I love the diversity of cultures and the openness of people. In France you very much have to fit in with the majority, differences aren't embraced as much.

If my kids grow up to not fit the mould they will be a lot happier here than they would be in France.

Same thing with job opportunities. In France they look at which school you went to rather than your attitude and competence. I could never have had the career I've had here in my own country. Just very elitist in general.

The only thing lacking here is the food. Supermarkets are tiny and don't have a lot of choice. I just spend most of my time home in supermarkets!

I think children with disabilities are better in the UK than for example France from what I have read.

IVFmumoftwo · 14/10/2024 14:06

Would you prefer too hot summers worrying about drought to our weather?

FrenchieMind · 14/10/2024 14:05

I disagree. I'm from France and love living here. As a PP said, it depends of what you enjoy and where you are.

I love that here my kids have lots of opportunities despite us living quite rurally, lots of groups and sports.Where I grew up, there is absolutely nothing for kids.

I love the diversity of cultures and the openness of people. In France you very much have to fit in with the majority, differences aren't embraced as much.

If my kids grow up to not fit the mould they will be a lot happier here than they would be in France.

Same thing with job opportunities. In France they look at which school you went to rather than your attitude and competence. I could never have had the career I've had here in my own country. Just very elitist in general.

The only thing lacking here is the food. Supermarkets are tiny and don't have a lot of choice. I just spend most of my time home in supermarkets!

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