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AIBU to not host Christmas this year?

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eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 14/10/2024 11:36

We always host and pay for everything and my lardass bro sits around scoffing and drinking as much as possible. Really not looking forward to running around after him and his family again this year.... They live miles away and in a tiny house... also him and his GF don't work so have no money to contribute. He literally will not get his arse off the sofa and we have to hide food and drink so other people get some!

The only thing making me want to host is my very elderly mum who would be so upset if we don't... I just hate feeling begrudging. Like I want to want to be generous and welcoming... I want to enjoy hosting!

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Pallisers · 14/10/2024 17:49

user47 · 14/10/2024 13:10

I avoided this with my lazy selfish sibling by just inviting the kids for a 'kids party" at Xmas and inviting DM to that. I got all the kids together, watched Home alone 1 and 2 with a pizza and treats and I got everyone matching PJ's that they were all dropped home in. It cost less and was more fun and when parents offered to come and dressed it up as "an opportunity to get the wrapping done". Aren't I nice. Then we just had DM on Xmas day.

this is a great idea. Then just invite your mum on xmas day

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 14/10/2024 16:46

flyingeffs · 14/10/2024 16:43

The only people who get upset by you setting boundaries are the ones who benefited from you not having any.

So true!

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flyingeffs · 14/10/2024 16:43

The only people who get upset by you setting boundaries are the ones who benefited from you not having any.

MumChp · 14/10/2024 16:30

I would invite for a simple lunch and a walk on Boxing Day. Nothing big. No alcohol. Nothing expensive.

Mum could join us for Christmas. Her choice. Brother not invited.

MounjaroUser · 14/10/2024 16:24

I remember my mum saying to her MIL, "So basically I've got to wait until you die before I have the sort of Christmas I want?"

MounjaroUser · 14/10/2024 16:23

I agree with the poster who said you should all go to a carvery one day before Christmas. Honestly, OP, I wouldn't have him at my house at any time, never mind Christmas Day.

Your mum has had her own way every year for however many years. It's time for you to have your own way over this.

LAMPS1 · 14/10/2024 16:07

For the sake of your mum and the cousins, I would invite them for the afternoon on Christmas Eve and do a simplified but lovely buffet supper. Ask them to bring the desert but have a lovely home made trifle or something hidden away for after they have left. If BiL finds it, tell him….. no! that’s for tomorrow.
Then book yourself a lovely Christmas Day lunch out for you all and your mum.

thepariscrimefiles · 14/10/2024 15:58

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 14/10/2024 11:50

3 kids. They have never worked - both stay at home parents. They own their house outright so no mortgage... not really sure what they live on!

How do they own their own house outright with no mortgage if they have never worked?

AutumnLeaves1990 · 14/10/2024 15:30

Book a Harvester or something a few days before Christmas, everyone pays for themselves and just have your mum Christmas day.

AutumnLeaves1990 · 14/10/2024 15:22

Stradlater · 14/10/2024 12:44

How do they own the house outright? They sound like complete CF’s to me.

Probably make a habit of letting everyone pay for everything all the time,hence being able to pay for their house lol. Most wealthy people are tight arses.

Tink3rbell30 · 14/10/2024 14:53

Ridiculous, I would not be having him over at all. Also confused how they can doss around not working and get away with it.

AutumnLeaves1990 · 14/10/2024 14:51

Either just host your mum or tell your brother you're struggling financially so they'd have to contribute on the food before Christmas. No money by November or they make excuses,don't host them.

Blueberrycreampie · 14/10/2024 14:47

Out of interest, what kind of Christmas would brother provide if he stayed at home. I'm sure he would find money to feed himself and family - and maybe not just cheap stuff. If his mortgage is paid off then there must be money coming in so he's just a freeloader and can sit comfortably knowing he or his missus doesn't have to lift a finger or spend any money. These kind of freeloaders make my blood boil. Christmas should be everyone pulling together.

EmeraldRoulette · 14/10/2024 14:47

what would happen if you said they have to host?

or they have to do the cooking at your home?

CoffeeCantata · 14/10/2024 14:45

araiwa · 14/10/2024 11:37

Host your mum but not your brother?

Definitely!

And let them know now, so they've got time to make other arrangements, or, if they end up coming to you, to stay in a nearby hotel and only join you for the main meal. And tell him what his chores will be on the day, if he does come. Write it down - don't worry about offending or patronising him.

LlynTegid · 14/10/2024 14:42

Thanks for your update a few minutes ago and stay strong.

If your children miss their cousins, explaining to them why (in an age appropriate way) could be a valuable lesson to them not to accept freeloaders and lazy people.

GivingitToGod · 14/10/2024 14:38

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 14/10/2024 11:50

3 kids. They have never worked - both stay at home parents. They own their house outright so no mortgage... not really sure what they live on!

? You need to speak to your brother and ask for a contribution towards food.
I appreciate that you want to make your mum happy and this solution might lessen your understandable resentment.
To be a SAHP with no mortgage is a luxury and a rarity IMO

loveydoveyloon · 14/10/2024 14:34

I would do a Christmas eve tea and exchange presents then send your brother on his way and let mum stay over

Tell them you are needing to cut back due to the cost of living and you can't afford to feed everyone a full works Christmas meal so thought this was quit a suitable alternative - you never know, he might offer to cough up some money towards a Christmas dinner, and then tell him he will also be on washing up duties - oh, and it a BYOB

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 14/10/2024 14:33

I think I feel sad about this because I would love to host and enjoy having everyone around - but I just feel bitter about his attitude. And my mums enablement of his behaviour.
Maybe this runs deeper than Christmas (always does right?)....

I am going to keep reading up on martyr syndrome and how to set boundaries.

Nothing is in place for Christmas, yet, and I have time to discuss with my Dh and the kids and work out what is best for ME and for US.

Christmas can be so magical - but it can also magnify family / personal issues...

Big girl pants on. Thanks everyone. Literally amazing advice and support and understanding x

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TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 14/10/2024 14:24

Pick a spot with a suitable outdoor space for the kids if your mum is well enough for a bit of a walk if the weather is fair and afternoon tea somewhere.

Boxing Day lunch or even the 27th since they don't work is a good way out of it. Something to do 'Twixtmas and no pressure to produce a full Christmas dinner with all the trimmings and faff.

And I would be straight with your brother. You're not hosting this year. [If pressed then simply say it's exhausting, he doesn't contribute financially or physically in any way to lighten the workload of the day and takes advantage of your good nature and your hospitality. You will feel so much better] They are welcome on X day to do Y between the hours of A & B.

NoTouch · 14/10/2024 14:19

Christmas is one of the few times I see my (large) family together.

I don't host as my house simply cannot house them all so we tend to go to my dbro/sil, but everyone pitches in.

Tell you brother you want a more relaxed Christmas this year and time to spend with your own children too as you are find the pressure too much and give him a list of things he and his family are responsible for -

Bringing desserts (making a trifle isn't expensive)
Veg prep in the morning or evening before
Washing up after
Clearing kitchen and putting bins out
Making breakfast/supper.......
etc............

Sometimes people feel they are overstepping or interfering if they do try to help.

If he says no then tell him then you need to reduce numbers as it is too much for you to do alone and you don't get to enjoy Christmas.

dottiedodah · 14/10/2024 14:19

P24 I hear you! For many years I hosted .and made sure Mum had a good Christmas .She enjoyed herself hugely .She would always insist on buying some Crackers or Christmas cake and so on ,or would often give me £ 10.00 "towards costs" Bless her .She has been gone many years now, and Christmas we always miss her ,(Also she died on the 19th Dec!)I am cheered by happy memories and her being here with us.I dont think you will regret having put her first. For OP I would still carry on ,Christian charity and all that.Also although DB seems a CF maybe he is struggling ? If not at work he will not have a huge income .If it makes Mum happy continue for now . Ask him for some Quality Street or whatever.and cut down a little ,on your food , maybe get a nice frozen Turkey .own brand pud/cake and some Baileys. supermarket Beers /crisps whatever.Have a rest boxing day and bring out the Good Stuff then!

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 14/10/2024 14:17

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 14/10/2024 11:38

She will want to see all the grandchildren together and my kids will want to see their cousins.

Ask brother to.pick her up and take her to husband house for a couple of hours.
I would otherwise ask him to bring x, y, z ... tell him you can't afford to keep paying for everything a d even if you could, it's simply not fair.

Atishooo · 14/10/2024 14:13

OP why do you think you don’t deserve a nice Christmas too?

Skybluepinky · 14/10/2024 14:05

Meal out and all pay for their own.