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To be annoyed by this parking?

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LilyOfTheValley33 · 14/10/2024 09:08

Am I being unreasonable to be annoyed by this parking? We live quite near a school which has no parking and so parents use our road to park on when dropping off/picking up. We get a lot of people parking by/across our drive as per the attached picture. It’s debatable whether it’s actually across our drive, but it makes it tricky to swing out of the drive especially if there is a car parked the other side of the drive too.

To be annoyed by this parking?
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LilyOfTheValley33 · 15/10/2024 07:27

Thanks for all your responses. It seems like there is a parking offence but I am being unreasonable to get annoyed about it and should just suck it up. I have actually never said anything to anyone, but do sigh inwardly in frustration! I have young children myself and so most mornings I have already left the house on the school/nursery run before all the parents arrive and park up. However, they are all there when I get back and sometimes it is such a stress to get back onto my own drive.

Yesterday, because of the way that car was parked I couldn’t swing straight onto my drive and so had to do a big of manoeuvring on the road whilst a car coming the opposite direction honked its horn at me to hurry up (probably a late parent). I also frequently have to mount and drive along the pavement to get past cars coming the other way and the way cars are parked.

We did know there was a school nearby when we bought the house, but have been shocked by how many cars park on our street because we are actually not that close to the school. All the houses in the street have their own driveways so the only people that park in the street are visitors/builders/delivery vans etc - and the school parents!

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BrutusMcDogface · 15/10/2024 06:36

Jammymare · 14/10/2024 09:36

Is everyone saying there’s nothing wrong missing that the wheel is completely over the dropped curb?
I mean it’s mildly annoying and I wouldn’t do anything more than huff internally to myself, but it is still a parking offence.

This! I can’t believe all the responses so far!

K0OLA1D · 15/10/2024 06:29

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 15/10/2024 00:07

Could you not park facing in the other direction?!

I don't drive. I can't get out in the middle of the road with the door swung wind open. It takes me a bit of effort to get out of a car

Whatjemimadid · 15/10/2024 00:33

It doesn't look so bad but if it makes life difficult I think you can pay the council to paint a white line that extends past the white line. Our nearby neighbour had one and screams at anyone who parks near it. I never do because I'm bored of her but she tells at parents and delivery drivers all day long. Its annoying but to be expected if you live near a school

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 15/10/2024 00:07

K0OLA1D · 14/10/2024 17:57

I have to be that far away from the kerb, or I can't get out the car. There needs to be enough room for my size 9 shoes on the road if there is a raised kerb

Could you not park facing in the other direction?!

Makingchocolatecake · 14/10/2024 21:59

My neighbour used to have 2 cars so permanently parked like this, just meant I got reallly good at reversing onto my drive :D

MulderitsmeX · 14/10/2024 18:07

There is LOADS of space here, nobody can park directly opposite your drive from what i can see. Unless your car is an actual bus this is no problem at all.

K0OLA1D · 14/10/2024 17:57

Atishooo · 14/10/2024 09:20

They’re shit at parking either way, about a foot from the curb. My mil parks like this.

I have to be that far away from the kerb, or I can't get out the car. There needs to be enough room for my size 9 shoes on the road if there is a raised kerb

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/10/2024 17:54

BIossomtoes · 14/10/2024 17:25

We don’t know which car arrived first or how much space there is behind the other car, do we?

True. The angle of parking suggested someone who saw a not quite big enough spot, tucked up close to the other car so as not to overhang the driveway, and then just abandoned it. If there'd been a spae when they'd arrived, I'd have thought they'd have pulled a bit further forward. Of course they could have parked behind and even smaller car which left and was replaced by one which parked too close.

ElaborateCushion · 14/10/2024 17:28

I would be annoyed by this too, though strictly speaking I believe it's only a parking contravention if the vehicle is physically over the point where the footway meets the road (i.e. the totally dropped bit).

You could apply to the council to have white h-bars across your drive way, which would encapsulate the dropping part (I think).

They're not enforceable, but they might "encourage" people to park more carefully.

BIossomtoes · 14/10/2024 17:25

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/10/2024 16:33

Even though it's left zero wiggle room for the car in front? It's virtualy touching the bumper.

We don’t know which car arrived first or how much space there is behind the other car, do we?

liquoricetorpedoes · 14/10/2024 17:03

I sympathise as it is annoying. We got a H-bar (and double yellow lines) painted by the council in front of our drive and it’s made a big difference. Could you do something like that?

Coconutter24 · 14/10/2024 17:01

They shouldn’t be parked over a dropped curb but equally I really couldn’t get worked up about this, it’s not impossible to get off your drive so YABU.

SoreHeadInBed · 14/10/2024 16:52

looks fine to me - looks like they parked in a rush, probably couldn't find anywhere else to park and late for school pick up. I empathise!

If you don't like that parking, you would hate mine😳

LovedFedAndNoonesDead · 14/10/2024 16:51

CMupnorth · 14/10/2024 16:16

Traffic wardens only issue tickets for blocked curbs installed by the council not ones for access to private properties. You need to complain via your council in that instance. Annoying as it is.

Where we used to live, the traffic wardens were all employed by the council and would ticket anything they could - sometimes somewhat too enthusiastically!!! Any car overhanging a dropped kerb even for private driveways, white H bar or end of a parking bay wand be ticketed.

Swissvisa · 14/10/2024 16:51

We get this all the time and we’re not even near a school. That car is fine, annoying to get off the drive I know, but it’s one of those things. YABU to be annoyed.

orangegato · 14/10/2024 16:49

Moral of the story - don’t live near a school if you want your road to be clear for you to park on. So many of these threads about, yes parents picking their kids up have to leave their cars somewhere and no they don’t give a shit where. What exactly are people hoping for though, the kids to teleport to school or the parents to suddenly care about a foot of space near someone’s drive?

Abitofalark · 14/10/2024 16:47

There should be a white line marking the area where they shouldn't be parking. I can't see whether there's one or not.

CMupnorth · 14/10/2024 16:44

My original image was from a London borough’s enforcement pages one I used to work for so I haven’t named it. (These below are from Thurrock and Bromley). I appreciate different councils may have different thresholds but I haven’t come across one that uses the sloping part of the kerb. Yes H-Bars cover it but H-Bars aren’t enforceable. Traffic Warden’s don’t enforce residential access without a complaint being made (they can’t tell on the face of it if the owner of the vehicle is a resident at the property).

Thankfully I didn’t do this job for very long as phots like the one the OP sent are actually quite hard to use. As you can see there is already a plethora of opinion on how far from the kerb it is. I’d assess the wheels and front and rear are touching the kerb and that it’s near impossible to tell if the rear bumper is in the enforcement area from the angle. But I could be wrong.

If they are parked legally you’re being unreasonable as I’m afraid the rest of the highway doesn’t belong to you or your needs but is governed by laws and bye-laws. Even if it’s a pain in the arse which I agree this might be.

if they are Parker illegally then report and see if you can get a CEO sent down quickly enough to catch it.. not easy.

To be annoyed by this parking?
To be annoyed by this parking?
CasaBianca · 14/10/2024 16:42

Annoying but to be fair there needs to be a compromise as to how much ‘pavement length’ should be reserved for a single household just because they have a drive. Parking right at the end of the dropped kerb is fine IMO.

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/10/2024 16:33

BIossomtoes · 14/10/2024 16:21

That’s nothing like a foot from the kerb. The front wheel’s touching it. It looks fine to me.

Even though it's left zero wiggle room for the car in front? It's virtualy touching the bumper.

CMupnorth · 14/10/2024 16:31

Walkden · 14/10/2024 16:18

The diagonal part of the dropped kerb counts as part of it ( and are normally included into any h bar markings ).

Technically they are obstructing your drive and are being a bit ( but not massively) inconsiderate. Few councils would enforce this though

Which is why h bar markings are advisory and not enforceable. It’s very irritating I’m sure but… much of life on this island is 😂

AutumnLeaves24 · 14/10/2024 16:28

ViaRia01 · 14/10/2024 09:36

@Atishooo i was taught to park ‘1 drain’s width’ from the kerb so this photo looks fine to me. Is that not the general advice everyone is given…?

Absolutely not!!

thankfully

Flev · 14/10/2024 16:24

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 14/10/2024 09:41

Also, I presume that you're parking according to the Highway Code and reversing in to your drive?

If you're one of the many people who prefer to make it much more difficult and dangerous for themselves by driving in, so they then have to reverse out, you can't really complain that another driver's parking is restricting your vision when leaving your drive, when that was your own choice.

I'd love to do this but unfortunately I arrive home whilst the school run chaos is going on, meaning I'm always being tailgated by someone and it's therefore impossible to undertake the 4 pt manoeuvre required to get to the right angle to back onto the drive through the tiny gap left between parked cars - all whilst also trying to avoid hitting oblivious teenagers meandering along the pavement. I go out later when the road is clearer to back off, turn around and park "properly"

Sparxdislike · 14/10/2024 16:23

Annoying when this happens to me with my drive as obscures my vision (I reverse in and have a t junction opposite so people shouldn't park outside my house anyway but do).

I don't say anything because it falls on deaf ears and just manoeuvre past. So sigh internally.