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Ryanair made 4yr old sit alone

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LHGL · 13/10/2024 19:18

We had a really stressful experience recently and I don’t know if it’s just me who finds this completely unacceptable but I just feel the need to get this out there.
Family of 5; DH, myself, DD 4 and 9, DS 7. Both DD’s get very travel sick.
Just under 3 hour flight to Italy and we check in online in advance, and I notice nobody is sitting together. I mean nobody is even on the same row - 5C, 32F,19B etc. We click ‘change seats’ but there are no options. I read up on kids sitting alone and am relieved to hear that Ryanair policy is that anyone under 12 needs to sit next to an adult.
We get to the airport and tell the Ryanair woman at baggage, she’s says not to worry and they’ll make sure we’re sitting together at the gate. Get to the gate, same story but the cabin crew will sort us out.

we board the plane and the two flight attendants tell us the flight is busy and they can’t help. DH reminds them of the policy of kids and adults sitting together, and they shrug and tell us we’re blocking the aisle. After a little more polite protestation we’re told they’ll sort us out once seated.
They don’t. We tried to swap with people ourselves but only managed to get the two youngest together, people weren’t terribly helpful and luck was against us with language and some odd folk.
The long and short of it was that the flight was a very distressing experience for all, not least the kids, and I was really taken aback by how uncaring the Ryanair attendants were. They put more effort into trying to sell us scratch cards than attempting to stop my kids being terrified of ever getting on a plane again.

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elderflowerspritzer · 14/10/2024 06:00

Babbadoobabbadock · 13/10/2024 19:20

Why did you not book seats ?

Presumably because they have a policy that children under 12 need to be seated with an adult, so they didn't think they'd be separated anyway?

This is clearly a fault of Ryanair and not OP!

Firestace · 14/10/2024 05:50

Lincoln24 · 13/10/2024 19:24

Those saying she should have paid to book seats are missing the point. They have a policy and they didn't honour it. If people need to pay for sitting together then that should be the policy.

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limegreenheart · 14/10/2024 05:30

I'm confused re how this happened. As PPs have said, and it's been my experience too: if you book a child ticket on RyanAir's website you can't proceed to checkout without paying for at least one adult ticket and choosing a paid adult seat plus free seats for each child. If you accidentally select non-adjacent seats - for example 9F and 10F instead of 9E and 9F - there's a hard error. If seats together aren't available, you physically can't book that flight.

If something happens after the booking is complete so that your original seat assignments aren't good anymore (change of aircraft, or re-routed due to a delayed flight/missed connection) they are supposed to keep you in the gate area until they have assigned appropriate seats that meet the child seating policy. If that's not possible they book you on the next flight. Whether RyanAir's system had a flaw and accepted your initial booking in error or the system or a human changed something in error later or whoever booked the tickets somehow did something incorrect, the gate agents were in the wrong for telling you to board and saying they'd sort it out later (and then not doing so).

Can you check your original flight confirmation and see what it says in terms of ticket types (did it correctly record the three tickets as children?) and seat assignments (did the assigned seats somehow change, oir get wiped out and reassigned by default)? And/or make a formal complaint about what happened; let Ryanair tell you what caused the disconnect.

ChampagneLassie · 14/10/2024 05:17

I presume you didn’t realise you had to pay to reserve a seat and that even if you did, Ryanair have a broad interpretation of sitting “together” and thus may have only meant adjacent row. A hard lesson learnt. Pay to reserve seats next time for all.

honestasever · 14/10/2024 05:06

How long before did you checkin @LHGL ?

Flittingaboutagain · 14/10/2024 04:55

EasternEcho · 14/10/2024 04:10

I'm not sure why so many are berating the OP for not paying for seats. According to Ryanair's policy an adult travelling with kids HAS TO PAY for a seat anyway, which OP would have done. Up to four children for every paid adult ticket will then be seated with the adult. In this case Ryanair seems to have violated its own policy. Unless I'm missing something.

"For safety reasons, children under the age of 12 must sit beside an accompanying adult, and infants (aged 8 days to 23 months inclusive) must sit on an accompanying adult’s lap. It is mandatory for an adult travelling with children under 12 (excl. infants) to reserve a seat. A maximum of four children for every one adult on the same booking will receive a reserved seat free of charge. This ensures parents of young children sit together during the flight. This will also allow you to check-in for your flight 60 days before departure. It is not mandatory for any other adults or teenagers in the booking to reserve a seat, however they may choose to do so if they wish to seat with the rest of the family."

No-one can read on here. See latest post.

Bazinga007 · 14/10/2024 04:40

Poor parenting, don't blame the airline for your own shortcomings.

EasternEcho · 14/10/2024 04:10

I'm not sure why so many are berating the OP for not paying for seats. According to Ryanair's policy an adult travelling with kids HAS TO PAY for a seat anyway, which OP would have done. Up to four children for every paid adult ticket will then be seated with the adult. In this case Ryanair seems to have violated its own policy. Unless I'm missing something.

"For safety reasons, children under the age of 12 must sit beside an accompanying adult, and infants (aged 8 days to 23 months inclusive) must sit on an accompanying adult’s lap. It is mandatory for an adult travelling with children under 12 (excl. infants) to reserve a seat. A maximum of four children for every one adult on the same booking will receive a reserved seat free of charge. This ensures parents of young children sit together during the flight. This will also allow you to check-in for your flight 60 days before departure. It is not mandatory for any other adults or teenagers in the booking to reserve a seat, however they may choose to do so if they wish to seat with the rest of the family."

Skate76 · 14/10/2024 03:27

It's a safety issue if nothing else. In an emergency who would have looked after your kids. I'd have taken them off the flight before I'd be separated from them tbh.

Flittingaboutagain · 14/10/2024 03:03

YellowAsteroid · 14/10/2024 02:30

Why didn’t you book seats together when you bought your tickets?

You don't need to. Their policy states children will automatically be allocated a seat with an adult.

coxesorangepippin · 14/10/2024 02:55

You'd have to have a hard heart not to let a four year old sit next to their family, let's face it

Begs belief

YellowAsteroid · 14/10/2024 02:30

Why didn’t you book seats together when you bought your tickets?

rainfallpurevividcat · 14/10/2024 02:14

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 14/10/2024 00:16

But surely you've just proved the point that people are making. Sensible parents pay extra to book whatever seats are needed to ensure that a child is not seated without a parent. You have booked seats for your partner and your child so that your child is not sat alone. Why couldn't the OP have done likewise?

But they shouldn't have to pay more than other passengers just to fulfil Civil Aviation Authority rules. Ryanair used to get away with charging disabled passengers for assistance until they were pulled up on it.

Viviennemary · 14/10/2024 02:12

I wouldn't fly with these budget airlines. They are the total pits. Why didn't you pay to reserve your seats.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 14/10/2024 02:07

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 14/10/2024 00:16

But surely you've just proved the point that people are making. Sensible parents pay extra to book whatever seats are needed to ensure that a child is not seated without a parent. You have booked seats for your partner and your child so that your child is not sat alone. Why couldn't the OP have done likewise?

But they would have had to pay for all the adults seats regardless - you HAVE to pay for adult seats when travelling with kids, it’s automatically added and then when you get to seat booking it shows which rows your PAID seat can be chosen from! We would have paid anyway but we couldn’t opt out. Ryanair changed their booking terms a year or two ago to make if mandatory for a parent to pay for a seat if travelling with a child.

Ryanair made 4yr old sit alone
RandomWordsThrownTogether · 14/10/2024 02:00

Roundthemoon · 14/10/2024 00:14

You said "you have to pay for seats with Ryanair".

You don't have to pay for seats with ryanair.

When you buy a ticket you are given a choice.

It's says clearly that you can

"not pay for seats, if you do this, you will be seated randomly By ryanair"

Or You can choose to

"Pay for the seats that you want"

You are told this several times when you book.

OP chose not to pay so she was seated randomly.

Edited

If you travel with an under 12 child their seat is free but the adult HAS to pay for a seat, there is no choice (they changed the rules about a year or two ago so it’s an automatic charge) - if you look at the breakdown of costs the “included” seat tends to costs £8/10 - when you are asked if you want to book a seat it then shows what rows are included (ie what you’ve already been charged for) and the price variation if you go for a more expensive row but is you go for a different row your child no longer qualifies for a free seat and must pay full price in the new row. OP HAD to pay - as they had 3 kids both adults would have had the extra seat charge added but the seats together were obviously gone or the included rows were gone. It is a silly system!

The days of chancing your arm and not paying to sit with kids are gone - you get charged automatically when you book so Ryanair should have provided them with seats and should refund the fee they already took to sit together!

CherubEarrings · 14/10/2024 01:58

Mainoo72 · 13/10/2024 19:29

How lovely for the poor people who had to sit next to your travel sick children on a flight. You’re being selfish not booking seats together to make sure you can look after your children, I’d have been pissed off if they were sat next to me.

This. How revolting I would have complained as not prepared to look after a vomiting child that is not my own.

JHound · 14/10/2024 01:43

LHGL · 13/10/2024 19:18

We had a really stressful experience recently and I don’t know if it’s just me who finds this completely unacceptable but I just feel the need to get this out there.
Family of 5; DH, myself, DD 4 and 9, DS 7. Both DD’s get very travel sick.
Just under 3 hour flight to Italy and we check in online in advance, and I notice nobody is sitting together. I mean nobody is even on the same row - 5C, 32F,19B etc. We click ‘change seats’ but there are no options. I read up on kids sitting alone and am relieved to hear that Ryanair policy is that anyone under 12 needs to sit next to an adult.
We get to the airport and tell the Ryanair woman at baggage, she’s says not to worry and they’ll make sure we’re sitting together at the gate. Get to the gate, same story but the cabin crew will sort us out.

we board the plane and the two flight attendants tell us the flight is busy and they can’t help. DH reminds them of the policy of kids and adults sitting together, and they shrug and tell us we’re blocking the aisle. After a little more polite protestation we’re told they’ll sort us out once seated.
They don’t. We tried to swap with people ourselves but only managed to get the two youngest together, people weren’t terribly helpful and luck was against us with language and some odd folk.
The long and short of it was that the flight was a very distressing experience for all, not least the kids, and I was really taken aback by how uncaring the Ryanair attendants were. They put more effort into trying to sell us scratch cards than attempting to stop my kids being terrified of ever getting on a plane again.

Why didn’t you pay to select your seats in advance?

simonsayss · 14/10/2024 01:41

Im sure every passenger who paid to choose their seat thought the quote
“your poor planning does not constitute as my emergency”

Entitled parents strike again because they decided to procreate

HoppingPavlova · 14/10/2024 01:41

Completely on you for not paying to book seats together. Of course other people didn’t want to swap, they had likely paid for their seats and viewed you as a CF. Can’t stand it when people do this and then expect staff and the other passengers to solve the problem.

Nuthatches · 14/10/2024 01:34

you need to book seats together instead of using the 'young kids should not sit away from parents' entitlement. I travel with Ryanair occasionally with 2 disabled teens. I always pay for the seats. Yes, it adds costs but that is how Ryanair works. I wouldn't be happy to give up or my teens seat that I paid for just some people who couldn't bother to do the same can sit together. I would image many people feel the same. What can the cabin crew do if people refuse to swap? This really is only on you!

AllesAusLiebe · 14/10/2024 01:34

Agree with pp - Ryanair did not make your 4 year old sit alone, you did by failing to prepare.

I've been in the position of being asked to move seats for a family who didn't feel like paying the extra. I moved, as I was travelling alone, but it pissed me off.

Melonjuice · 14/10/2024 01:34

GillBeck · 14/10/2024 00:21

You are confusing paying for specific seats with sitting together. A parent and child can be randomly allocated two seats next to each other somewhere in the plane.

If booked with a travel agent you may not be able to change your seats as you cannot access the booking

SophiaCohle · 14/10/2024 01:32

I'm astonished no one would swap with you. I would pay good money not to be sitting next to someone else's 4-year-old. Just being able to swap would seem like a bargain.

Melonjuice · 14/10/2024 01:30

the seats should be sorted at check-in, not at the gate or on the plane. You should have not left check-in until they sorted your seats there because once everyone has their boarding passes there isn’t much the gate or flight attendants can do

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