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Ryanair made 4yr old sit alone

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LHGL · 13/10/2024 19:18

We had a really stressful experience recently and I don’t know if it’s just me who finds this completely unacceptable but I just feel the need to get this out there.
Family of 5; DH, myself, DD 4 and 9, DS 7. Both DD’s get very travel sick.
Just under 3 hour flight to Italy and we check in online in advance, and I notice nobody is sitting together. I mean nobody is even on the same row - 5C, 32F,19B etc. We click ‘change seats’ but there are no options. I read up on kids sitting alone and am relieved to hear that Ryanair policy is that anyone under 12 needs to sit next to an adult.
We get to the airport and tell the Ryanair woman at baggage, she’s says not to worry and they’ll make sure we’re sitting together at the gate. Get to the gate, same story but the cabin crew will sort us out.

we board the plane and the two flight attendants tell us the flight is busy and they can’t help. DH reminds them of the policy of kids and adults sitting together, and they shrug and tell us we’re blocking the aisle. After a little more polite protestation we’re told they’ll sort us out once seated.
They don’t. We tried to swap with people ourselves but only managed to get the two youngest together, people weren’t terribly helpful and luck was against us with language and some odd folk.
The long and short of it was that the flight was a very distressing experience for all, not least the kids, and I was really taken aback by how uncaring the Ryanair attendants were. They put more effort into trying to sell us scratch cards than attempting to stop my kids being terrified of ever getting on a plane again.

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youheard · 13/10/2024 21:13

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 13/10/2024 21:11

so subversive and edgy for u to sympathise with a faceless corporation that put a 4 year old in danger

it’s neither subversive nor edgy - the faceless corporation has the rules printed for all to see and is known to be the biggest most unpleasant money grabber of all time – your credit card is not going to give you a rebate for booking with a bunch of greedy bastards

FeatherBoat · 13/10/2024 21:13

Crazyeight · 13/10/2024 21:05

Good luck to the poor person sat next to my 5 year old.

This is such a weird attitude.

Maybe it would be your infant who would need the good luck.

Not everyone in the world is a nice person.

Dollshousedolly · 13/10/2024 21:13

Rimtimtagidimdim · 13/10/2024 20:49

Why do we accept that we should pay this though?

If you book for 4 people at a restaurant, would you pay 25% more so your 5 and 7 year old aren't sat on separate tables with a different family? Crazy 😆

Would you think it preferable for Ryanair and other airlines to offer reserved seating at booking and hike fares up right across the board? Some people are happy to sit in any random seat, not have priority boarding, etc to avail of a lower fare - it’s a menu - you get a basic seat with basic fare, any extras you pay for.

schmeler · 13/10/2024 21:11

Rimtimtagidimdim · 13/10/2024 20:49

Why do we accept that we should pay this though?

If you book for 4 people at a restaurant, would you pay 25% more so your 5 and 7 year old aren't sat on separate tables with a different family? Crazy 😆

The rule applies to all who want to sit together not just families!

Why should those who pay to seat together face not being able to because some entitled parents stamp their feet and refuse to pay? Why should those ppl lose their money?

I presume you think it is ok because....?

HisNibs · 13/10/2024 21:11

It's a well known fact that you pay for everything extra with RyanAir. The alternative is a higher ticket price with seat reservation included. For those citing CAA guidelines... a) it is guidance only and b) RuinAir is headquartered in the EU and answers to EASA, not the CAA. OP you should have paid the extra £10 and you would have been able to guarantee 4 of your seats.

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 13/10/2024 21:11

youheard · 13/10/2024 21:07

Good luck with that 🤣🤣

so subversive and edgy for u to sympathise with a faceless corporation that put a 4 year old in danger

AmyW9 · 13/10/2024 21:10

youheard · 13/10/2024 21:05

I wish the OP lots of luck complaining to the airline who makes a virtue of not giving a toss. If they complain to anyone, it should be to the CAA

Nothing changes if someone doesn't take a stand, no matter how difficult the brand is renowned for being.

While 4 years old is still young, imagine this was a two year old being removed from their parents?

It's unacceptable, and I personally feel huge empathy for the OP on this one (although do agree, they should have challenged this before arriving at the airport, but we live and we learn...).

DirectionToPerfection · 13/10/2024 21:09

Crazyeight · 13/10/2024 21:05

Good luck to the poor person sat next to my 5 year old.

I would hope you'll be responsible enough to book your seats in advance like the vast majority of parents do.

You can't claim you didn't know.

Stravaig · 13/10/2024 21:09

Whether or not we should have to pay extra to add back on all the basics of good service that used to be included is a separate discussion.

OP+DH either didn't understand Ryanair's seat-booking policy (their error) or they deliberately tried to circumvent it (their entitlement); in either case to the perceived detriment of their children's experience of flying. They are now trying to deflect the blame for their own dubious parental choices, by suggesting that it is Ryanair who have been neglectful.

olympicsrock · 13/10/2024 21:09

I think you skipped that stage of the booking

olympicsrock · 13/10/2024 21:08

You cocked up here . They offer you free seats for a child next to a parent . You need to select them when you book the seats.
If you didn’t do this then you have made the mistake .

youheard · 13/10/2024 21:07

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 13/10/2024 21:06

That's fucked, anyone saying you should have paid extra to sit together: NO. Ryanair are a shitty airline who exploit the f out of their customers. File a chargeback with your bank for all your flights. CFs!

Good luck with that 🤣🤣

Boobygravy · 13/10/2024 21:07

ByMerryKoala · 13/10/2024 21:06

If you book for 4 people at a restaurant, would you pay 25% more so your 5 and 7 year old aren't sat on separate tables with a different family? Crazy 😆

I'd have paid double to sit them on somebody else's table and eat my dinner in peace.

😂

DoreenonTill8 · 13/10/2024 21:07

ByMerryKoala · 13/10/2024 21:06

If you book for 4 people at a restaurant, would you pay 25% more so your 5 and 7 year old aren't sat on separate tables with a different family? Crazy 😆

I'd have paid double to sit them on somebody else's table and eat my dinner in peace.

😆take mine too!!!
New business venture!

Boobygravy · 13/10/2024 21:06

neilyoungismyhero · 13/10/2024 20:38

We flew to Spain one night as ysual, with Ryanair. The flight was half empty. A gentleman and his 3/4 year old weren't seated together. The Attendants wouldn't allow them to sit together prior to take off, the child didn't make a fuss bless her but as soon as we had taken off they both sat in an empty row behind us for the remainder of the flight. Not sure why they couldn't just have been allowed to do that in the first place.

This will have been to do with weight distribution on take off, although a 3 year old wouldn’t make much of a difference.

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 13/10/2024 21:06

That's fucked, anyone saying you should have paid extra to sit together: NO. Ryanair are a shitty airline who exploit the f out of their customers. File a chargeback with your bank for all your flights. CFs!

ByMerryKoala · 13/10/2024 21:06

If you book for 4 people at a restaurant, would you pay 25% more so your 5 and 7 year old aren't sat on separate tables with a different family? Crazy 😆

I'd have paid double to sit them on somebody else's table and eat my dinner in peace.

idkbroidk · 13/10/2024 21:05

AvaJae · 13/10/2024 19:50

We tried to swap with people ourselves but only managed to get the two youngest together,

One of the adults could have sat with the four year old, which seems to be the main issue.

exactly this!!! @LHGL why couldn't you have one adult sitting with the 4 year old and the other adult sitting with the 7 year old? Hmm

youheard · 13/10/2024 21:05

AmyW9 · 13/10/2024 21:00

It's in breach of the Civil Aviation Authorities guidelines:

Young children and infants who are accompanied by adults should ideally be seated in the same seat row as the adult. Where this is not possible, children should be separated by no more than one seat row from accompanying adults. This is because the speed of an emergency evacuation may be affected by adults trying to reach their children.

While not binding, RyanAir should be compliant with this. If they aren't, it absolutely gives the OP grounds to complain.

I wish the OP lots of luck complaining to the airline who makes a virtue of not giving a toss. If they complain to anyone, it should be to the CAA

MumChp · 13/10/2024 21:05

SerafinasGoose · 13/10/2024 21:02

Actually they can, if they use the line that it's for safety reasons. This is written into the policy of most airlines.

A passenger who refuses an instruction to move from crew can find themselves disembarked.

But crew will most likely not confront paying custumers to serve non paying custumers. OP chose not to book and pay seats.

PleaseStopEatingMyStuff · 13/10/2024 21:05

Ive always paid extra to be guaranteed a seat next to whoever I'm travelling with.
I really don't think it's reasonable of you to expect other families or groups to be split up, when they have likely paid extra to be together but you haven't.

Crazyeight · 13/10/2024 21:05

Good luck to the poor person sat next to my 5 year old.

Anoisagusaris · 13/10/2024 21:04

Haven’t read all the thread but Ryanair do put kids beside parents…..you just have to pay for the adult seat and the kid’s seat is free. Just pay for your seat in future like all the other parents who want to have their child beside them.

Roundthemoon · 13/10/2024 21:04

With ryanair you have to pay for everything.

So it's either pay for a cheap flight and pay for add on extras.

Or pay for a more expensive flight with another airline

youheard · 13/10/2024 21:03

Rimtimtagidimdim · 13/10/2024 20:49

Why do we accept that we should pay this though?

If you book for 4 people at a restaurant, would you pay 25% more so your 5 and 7 year old aren't sat on separate tables with a different family? Crazy 😆

we don’t have to accept this – if we don’t like the policy we fly with another airline!