Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

@Yalta your posts are so unbelievably stupid it would be funny if it weren't such a scary subject.

Are you really comparing a cat or a cow to an XL bully? A complete powerhouse of muscle and aggression that lives domestically and are subjected to people in public places everyday? Do you genuinely not realise how idiotic that is?

But XL bullies are bred to fight. It's in their dna. Look how many can be traced back to "killer kimbo". It's in breeding at its worst.

Also, having grown up in the country and around cattle, I'd take a herd of them over a XL bully any day. Cows are predictable at least.

I was on a large, chunky pony and felt very much in danger. It didn't stop until my pony stopped giving warnings and kicked the dog hard. There is no way any unarmed human could stop an attack.

Years ago my dog was attacked by a pitbull and my dad - who worked as a builder and was very physically strong and tall - could not stop the dog. Being graphic here but the dog didn't stop until he smashed the dog's skull in with a sledgehammer and it died. My dog - a large crossbreed - had such extensive injuries that he lost a leg. And that was a pitbull who was half the size of the monsters today.

What utter drivel

I'm not a fan of xls, whatsoever, ugly brutes, but I see plenty about out walking my dog, usually unmuzzled. I cross over and go different ways. My dog doesn't like them either and will react. It's obviously a body language thing. Usually, the owners stand out a mile, one that I do know, has done frequent prison sentences for violence. I avoid.
I agree with licensing, compulsory training, insurance, and lead restrictions. I hire a field regularly so she can run off lead.
I spend a small fortune on weekly classes, so my dog is trained in a 'job', purely as enrichment, but she could use the skills if required.( similar to rescue dog/ police dogs) She is a large crossbreed ( no bully breeds!) We adopted her as a puppy, now 6 years old, but we still have classes weekly and I will do until she's too elderly.

You will recognise an XL Bully if you see one. They’re huge and muscly.

I appreciate your polite replies.

Do stories like this not scare you? Loved dogs suddenly killing their owners?

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/woman-mauled-to-death-posted-video-of-her-dancing-with-xl-bully-to-song-saying-i-dont-give-a-f-about-the-breed-being-banned-13148665

Imagjne what your dog could do to your three year old, even with you in the room? I don’t understand how you are not worried at all?

@Yalta Interesting logic.

How many families do you know that selectively breed aggressive killer cows, keep them at home in densely-populated areas and walk them in the park?

Love dogs but these are disproportionately vicious. They should be rounded up and put to sleep. No iff and buts. Any dog from the same line also put down. Eventually people will stop breeding them

Haven't read the full thread so not sure if it's been mentioned already but it's XL bullys specifically that have a genetic predisposition to 'switch' and attack without any of the usual warning signs (growling, snapping etc). Very different to most breeds where handler/environmental issues are more likely to fuel violent behaviour. Something to do with a significant majority being bred from the lines of sire Killer Kimbo - info was linked on another thread about dog attacks, I think it was this website bullywatch.link/2023/08/01/finding-kimbo/comment-page-1/

@ZippyLimeSnake yes you’ve had a lot of responses but think this one through

You are not being realistic about the power of the breed and the fatal harm it can do, and how powerless you would be. Or your dc if you have them

Your posts are all complete nonsense. Genuinely, every single one.

But the thing is, you don't seem to grasp the fact that the reason you and your son are still alive after being attacked by the spaniel and the shitzu are because they arent anywhere near as powerful as an xl bully.

I can garuntee if your xl bully attacks you or your son you will end up worse off.

My angry designer pets are ginger and white cats

FWIW I have sat in many cafes and walked around many towns, cities and villages and never once felt in fear of dogs attacking

This idea of getting rid of the breed of dog that attacks the most would just result in getting rid of every breed of dog

Because at some point every dog breed would be at the top of the list

Cows kill on average 4-5 people per year

Let’s cull all cows. No more beef or milk or cheddar. But a small price to pay surely for those 4-5 human lives.

There is literally no point in claiming that your dog is safe and friendly. All the dogs who attack have been considered safe and friendly until they do attack.

I'm a dog lover and have a medium-large breed (huskies) but I agree with others, I would never own a breed I couldn't physically overpower (huskies aren't that strong and I could hold all 3 of them back with relative ease as a 9st woman)

We have an XL around here who does seem lovely but is always muzzled and on a flat (not extendable) lead with a high viz vest on, I've said hello to her and she just wanted scritches, but I have to admit I wouldn't say hello to one that wasn't muzzled, thankfully they seem uncommon where we are, I've only met that one and one other.

I've done some reading about the genetics of the XL bullies and there definitely seems to be some problematic lineage, out of interest do you know your dog's pedigree @ZippyLimeSnake ? Did you know about the killer kimbo lines before you got him?

We've got a cane corso locally who seems more iffy (with dogs at least, I've only ever seen it when I'm walking mine so haven't said hello to it) than the muzzled XL

Staffies don't worry me in terms of people attacks, they have more dog aggression but all the ones I've met have been lovely with humans, but they're also quite small dogs (properly bred ones are anyway), albeit strong

As I said up thread

Newfoundland to XL bully
Newfoundland to XL bully

Why just why?

Why didn't you just wait to get the breed you wanted?

I do like dogs, but I would happily see agressive and dangerous breeds be put to sleep. I also agree with other posters who say that there should be stricter rules around dog ownership and some sort of licencing process.

I also think that too many people have dogs who have very little idea on how to actually look after and train a dog.

Unlike lots of other large breed dogs, bullies were specifically bred at the genetic level to fight, tenaciously, without* *inhibition- pit bulls will actually get themselves extremely harmed when attacking and still not stop, and without prior warning.
Yes, of course not all pit bulls will attack, but you're still introducing a massive risk into your home, and into everyone else's life, that is completely and utterly unnecessary. Of course people will judge accordingly.

Expensive mistake then.

Or would you buy him again tomorrow? I'm guessing yes.

People feel extremely strongly about this breed as you will now have come to realise

No one would have a problem with owners having this breed of dog if the risk was to the owners only, but it's that it puts others at risk that is the problem. If zippylimesnake and others want to have these dogs knowing the awful damage they can do, fair enough if the dog was to only ever attack them, but it's often others who have to pay the price, some of them children.

I haven’t read the whole thread so it may have already been mentioned, but over half of the XL Bullies in the UK are descended from a sire in the US named Kimbo, now dubbed ‘Killer Kimbo’ because of the atrocious personalities of his progeny. Kimbo has a very high coefficient of inbreeding (~32%) and the results of his matings have had awful consequences. Have a search about it, it’s awful. Also if you do own an XL Bully, I’d suggest tracking its heritage to see if Killer Kimbo lies within it.. sometimes it is just the dog.