Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

I assume her husband walks it, but I wouldn't know how much.

Apparently they went on holiday for a week, leaving it alone with just a neighbour to pop in and feed it. That bit is just hearsay though 🤷‍♀️

I can actually see no reason why they opted for a dog with so many red flags. You'd never assume it of them unless you'd been to their house. Not even that her husband works nights and it's for protection (not that that would make it ok!). She doesn't mention having a dog at all in conversation, first I knew was when I went to her house and she warned me she had a very large, boisterous dog. I actually laughed and said i was a bit of a dog whisperer.... then I saw it. She shut it in the garden at one point and it opened the back door. I had to push it shut and hold the handle to keep it out till she could lock it.

I don't know the husband really so can only assume it was his choice and she has zero common sense. She is such a switched on/assertive person in general though. It's mind blowing.

That's the thing class doesn't necessarily you have a sharp or level mind

@CellophaneFlower that is mad. Hope those children are ok. So does the dog not get walked at all? That can’t be good for the situation

Indeed.

I know somebody who's a secondary school teacher who has an imported rescue cane corso, complete with cropped ears. She must have got it when she was either pregnant or with a small baby and had another 3 year old child. She can't walk it as it's too strong. It's HUGE. Total madness.

I've had an experience tonight which correlates - 2 people walking 2 Boxer type dogs (they were bigger than boxers I've seen before so not sure if they were just big boxers or crosses, but definitely had a boxer face, maybe a mastiff cross) one of mine can be reactive, but with work she'll now walk past other dogs without reacting, she does react when she feels under threat - if a dog lunges, is aggressive barking etc.
Single track lane wide enough for one car, they went up on to the grass verge and stopped, a little way apart, I crossed the lane so I was on the opposite side and put the reactive dog on the other side of me and carried on walking, got past the first one and no reaction from mine just keep walking, second dog however drags the woman across to the centre of the lane barking and lunging, my reactive dog, well, reacts and barks back but I keep her walking forward with the lead and to concentrate on me and she does. Out of the corner of my eye this woman is still being dragged along by this dog, behind us. She clearly isn't strong enough to physically hold it when it's as reactive as that, which is half the problem really - that dog was probably 'just' dog reactive, and wouldn't react that way to a person, and she managed somehow to stay on her feet and keep hold of it. But she clearly wasn't strong enough to hold it securely physically. I've every sympathy with people walking reactive dogs, one of mine is, but I'm stronger than she is and there's no way she'd be able to drag me like that.

It was bigger than both of mine, I dread to think what would have happened had she let go or it pulled her over. A fight definitely and injured dogs, probably injured people. Doesn't bear thinking about if I'd had a child with me, in the middle of all that, and it's a popular walking spot where people do take their dogs & children together for a walk. Irresponsible.

I totally agree and it's also that we are afraid to tell someone off as we are afraid of violence. We don't have a sense of collective community and also we are afraid as anyone could pull out a knife/ set a dog on us

Society has become too tolerant. In times past a person exposing children to a dangerous animal would've faced from their local community - verbal abuse and ostracisation which may have escalated to damage to property, threats or the animal being killed if a quiet opportunity came up. Paedophiles used to be run out of town, their life made so hellish that they couldn't stay.

We've been conditioned over the last couple of generations to accept everything and anything under the name of tolerance, and evil people take advantage of that.
It is not civilised and it is not progress.

@Babycatsarenice , it’s so frightening isn’t it ? There is guy near me who has two of the ghastly creatures, I cross the road to avoid him

I'm so sick of having to keep a look our for these dogs when I'm out with my child. With no hope of fighting it off if one attacks. Everyone who owns one is an idiot and or evil. I will never respect the rspca again for lobbying against the ban.
The ban hasn't worked as there are attacks weekly. Can we collectively as Mumsnet try to do something about this?

Although statistically you’re more likely to be attacked by a human, that person is generally not going to rip your face off, tear your throat out or bite a limb off!

That response was meant for Autumnleaves

I agree, BUT you shouldn't be implying that these dogs are only owned by certain people, as people from all walks of life (and different occupations) also own them.

You can be 'intelligent' academically, but still have zero common sense and no responsibility. And the opposite is also true.

Don't worry, we know exactly what she meant

Oh dear how will she explain that one, I mean, those of us who are educated and live on council estates (many of us in bought outright houses for the record) are surely not to be heard of in her opinion.

Who cares about class she means IQ

One never sees anyone with an iota of intelligence with this type of dog.

Agreed.

And I'd like to know what is classed as lower class?

I'm educated to Master's level, have loads of qualifications in my passion subject yet live in a council house and earn minimum wage and receive a small amount of UC.

Wow that's insane. I'm really shocked by that number

Didn't you know that 'educated people' ,as you put it, are also sometimes lacking in common sense and are irresponsible enough to own XL bullies?

And didn't you know that 'lower class' people are not all lacking in common sense and are responsible enough never to even entertain the idea of owning an XL bully?

There are 55,000 registered and exempted XLs in the UK, but no idea how many unregistered XLs there are.

What a ridiculous pointless statement

With all respect,educated people rarely own these breeds. Definitely a lower class problem.

Do we know how many there are currently in the UK or is there no records? I guess not..

And how gutted would you be if it turns out she's your child's teacher or GP 🤣🤣

Her dogs had cropped ears (so either imported or done illegally in the UK at some point) and didn't look happy in the "dancing" pics imo.