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Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

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Mayaamelia · 13/10/2024 17:34

I know I’m not the only one and don’t think I am being unreasonable tbh but didn’t know where else to post this.

In the past week or so there have been five serious attacks in the UK but what we have plastered all over the news is the police apologising to a deluded xl bully owner, when he’s the one who failed to do as he’s told.
What kind of message does that send?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured. There’s only one little article about it in the Star. When did this ever used to happen in this country? It’s not normal.

I just don’t see why normal, decent people should have to live in fear of these scumbags and their dangerous dogs. Nothing is being done, how can something be banned if there are exemptions?
When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

It’s like being in possession of something worse than a loaded gun or a lion. Nobody’s allowed pepper spray though - you can get 4 years in prison just for carrying it apparently.
If they at least increased the jail time maybe that would deter people from owning these dangerous dogs.

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Babycatsarenice · 03/11/2024 13:23

Well that's another little child killed by an Xl bully. Ive written to my MP and got no response. It's just awful

Toomanysquishmallows · 03/11/2024 07:40

@HRTQueen , I totally agree , also I’m sure a bite from a collie , will do less damage than an XL bully bite .

HRTQueen · 02/11/2024 20:55

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2024 00:09

As the owner of a doberman and an American bulldog who just think everyone is their friend. And work in a kennels..... worst bites have come from "safe" breeds like collies, labs and cockapoodles!!!!!

at times some dogs will bite

if an xl bully went for you its going for the kill as have American Bulldogs

but continue to fool yourself into thinkings they are just cute misunderstood breeds

winewine · 02/11/2024 18:27

Another death.

10 year old killed by family dog in Malton, Yorkshire.

Doesn't say what type of dog.

HidingHereForTomorrow · 28/10/2024 15:46

I’ve worked in rescue for decades, I had a chat with an older fella a couple of years ago when a lot of these aggressive XLs were moving through rescues. I was wondering what I could do if one ever attacked an adult/child to get it to release as all of the techniques I know to stop an attacking dog wouldn’t work on these. He told me that grabbing the collar and then shoving a pointy stick up its arse, hard and fast, has worked for him in times when a human has been in serious danger. Unpalatable? Yes. Worth it to save a human? Yes.

AlexaSetATimer · 28/10/2024 09:36

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2024 00:09

As the owner of a doberman and an American bulldog who just think everyone is their friend. And work in a kennels..... worst bites have come from "safe" breeds like collies, labs and cockapoodles!!!!!

But did the collie, lab or doodle poodle KILL the person they bit?
Thought not.

CellophaneFlower · 28/10/2024 06:53

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2024 00:09

As the owner of a doberman and an American bulldog who just think everyone is their friend. And work in a kennels..... worst bites have come from "safe" breeds like collies, labs and cockapoodles!!!!!

No dog is "safe". Even the most highly trained, impeccably behaved dog can turn due to illness/pain etc. The difference is the damage these dogs inflict when they do and that's disregarding the fact XL bullies have been bred to actually inflict pain in the first place.

OctoberOctopus · 28/10/2024 06:36

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2024 00:09

As the owner of a doberman and an American bulldog who just think everyone is their friend. And work in a kennels..... worst bites have come from "safe" breeds like collies, labs and cockapoodles!!!!!

That's great.

However, most deaths have come from XL bullies hence the ban. HTH?

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2024 00:09

As the owner of a doberman and an American bulldog who just think everyone is their friend. And work in a kennels..... worst bites have come from "safe" breeds like collies, labs and cockapoodles!!!!!

YOYOK · 20/10/2024 10:17

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 19/10/2024 16:44

Labradors and pitbulls have a similar bite force.

Which goes to prove the point it is a trait in certain breeds and therefore, the breed is too high a risk. In the US, pit bulls are not illegal and yet, they are more likely to main or kill than a lab.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 19/10/2024 16:44

CellophaneFlower · 19/10/2024 06:35

I agree cane corsos or similar will be next, however I don't get when people use it as an excuse not to ban XL bullies, saying there's no point as something else will just take it's place. Hopefully if stats prove this breed is also as volatile they'll also be banned too. Just shocking a certain amount of people have to lose their lives for it to happen. Never bothered if it's the actual owner that gets munched though, in my eyes that kills 2 birds with one stone.

Cane corsos actually have a stronger bite force than an XL I believe, stronger than a lion in fact. I'm not sure if they're quite as deranged as an XL that's lost it though, or if it's as common for them to flip. This may be as there's less of them around... I have no idea of the stats. However, how on earth an animal that bites harder than a lion is allowed on our streets in the first place, without being muzzled as a bare minimum blows my mind. Utter madness.

Labradors and pitbulls have a similar bite force.

abracadabra1980 · 19/10/2024 07:16

BelgianBiscuit · 17/10/2024 15:08

Licences should be needed for dog ownership, training classes (even the short KC puppy course) should be mandatory and if not insured there should be evidence of means to pay for unexpected vet bills.

Not that it could ever happen.

I've worked in rescue and boarding kennels, 9/10 xls are owned by the wrong sort or person and cannot control their pet. Cane corsos will be the next breed in the spotlight. I do personal protection training with one of my dogs. It's always a newbie turning up with an XL or corso who wants protection training but has zero obedience.

None of this surprises me.

NoisyDenimShaker · 19/10/2024 07:06

I agree; I think they're horrible.

CellophaneFlower · 19/10/2024 06:35

I agree cane corsos or similar will be next, however I don't get when people use it as an excuse not to ban XL bullies, saying there's no point as something else will just take it's place. Hopefully if stats prove this breed is also as volatile they'll also be banned too. Just shocking a certain amount of people have to lose their lives for it to happen. Never bothered if it's the actual owner that gets munched though, in my eyes that kills 2 birds with one stone.

Cane corsos actually have a stronger bite force than an XL I believe, stronger than a lion in fact. I'm not sure if they're quite as deranged as an XL that's lost it though, or if it's as common for them to flip. This may be as there's less of them around... I have no idea of the stats. However, how on earth an animal that bites harder than a lion is allowed on our streets in the first place, without being muzzled as a bare minimum blows my mind. Utter madness.

Mayaamelia · 18/10/2024 21:26

AlexaSetATimer · 18/10/2024 21:01

Met my first Cane Corso today, he was huge! Like a super muscly beast the size of a Great Dane. Very intimidating looking.

He was a well socialised, well trained boy but I'd hate to think about what one that wasn't could potentially do.

Yeah they do look a bit big and scary, I wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of one!
Even if xl bullies did somehow disappear I think Cane Corsos would end up being the next problem.
I came across another article yesterday where armed police were called to a street in Manchester after a Cane Corso had bit someone - apparently it was my family who sent the pictures to The Mirror!

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AlexaSetATimer · 18/10/2024 21:01

Met my first Cane Corso today, he was huge! Like a super muscly beast the size of a Great Dane. Very intimidating looking.

He was a well socialised, well trained boy but I'd hate to think about what one that wasn't could potentially do.

BelgianBiscuit · 17/10/2024 15:08

Licences should be needed for dog ownership, training classes (even the short KC puppy course) should be mandatory and if not insured there should be evidence of means to pay for unexpected vet bills.

Not that it could ever happen.

I've worked in rescue and boarding kennels, 9/10 xls are owned by the wrong sort or person and cannot control their pet. Cane corsos will be the next breed in the spotlight. I do personal protection training with one of my dogs. It's always a newbie turning up with an XL or corso who wants protection training but has zero obedience.

horseHorseHorse · 17/10/2024 14:54

Theotherone234 · 17/10/2024 14:03

Pulling up on a slip lead will not stop a dog attack. What you need to do is render the dog unconscious by strangling it with a stick through its collar then twisting. Assuming it's wearing a collar. You need powerful grip/arms to do it

Again, it took my dad (who is six foot odd and made his living as a bricklayer) smashing the dog's head in with a sledgehammer to stop it killing my dog. And that was only a standard Pitbull. It takes a lot longer than you'd think to strangle something unconscious.

Theotherone234 · 17/10/2024 14:03

Pulling up on a slip lead will not stop a dog attack. What you need to do is render the dog unconscious by strangling it with a stick through its collar then twisting. Assuming it's wearing a collar. You need powerful grip/arms to do it

Shade17 · 17/10/2024 11:21

The ban hasn't worked as there are attacks weekly.

It’s a pathetic ‘ban’ IMHO. I’d not expect 55k of the things to still exist, should’ve been 100% PTS.

ChangedmyMindNotUsingMyRealName · 17/10/2024 09:07

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 17/10/2024 08:40

So what class is a secondary school teacher? Middle class just because they're a teacher?Some of the teachers I see look quite "chavvy" in all honesty.

Yeah I would say middle class regardless

Theotherone234 · 17/10/2024 09:06

Newgirls · 14/10/2024 08:57

We’ve been in France for a few weeks and it’s so nice to see small well behaved dogs. Far fewer than in the uk and well trained. No dog poo on pavements. Walking to heel. Yes the uk has a dog problem - poor owners and far too many

I'm guessing it wasn't Lens...never seen a place with so much dog crap everywhere

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 17/10/2024 08:40

ChangedmyMindNotUsingMyRealName · 17/10/2024 07:22

That's the thing class doesn't necessarily you have a sharp or level mind

So what class is a secondary school teacher? Middle class just because they're a teacher?Some of the teachers I see look quite "chavvy" in all honesty.

Toomanysquishmallows · 17/10/2024 07:57

@CellophaneFlower , I will probably get flamed for this , but I have seen people lose all common sense , when it comes to rescue dogs .

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