Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

If an Xl bullies attacks and kills, the owner should be up in the dock for murder. These people tend to be morons, and should be treated as such. Utter scum.

100% we have a huge dog problem. People take them everywhere now. You literally can't go anywhere without a dog being present, and I say that as a dog owner myself.

My neighbour is a breeder of many different breeds of dog and at one point she was breeding the micro-bullies and XLs. They are terrifying, the muscles are astonishing to see. Now she's talking about cane corsos and the idea puts the fear of god into me.

It's whatever makes the money I guess, she doesn't breed Jack Russells 🙃

I genuinely don't understand this thinking. I do agree we need tougher restrictions on dog ownership etc. but men harm much more people (women, men and children) than dogs of any breed do. Do we put all men down?

I saw two the other day left with a child who couldn't have been older than 7/8 while dad was in a shop. There was no way that child could have controlled them if they'd gone for someone.

All dogs have the potential to be aggressive, and I'm sure it is true that most never are, and that those who think their dog is a "big dope" or "cuddly" or a "big softy" are probably right. But the strength and inbred flexibility of temperament in XL bully dogs does make them more dangerous. If they do snap/ have a moment then the damage they can inflict is enormous and it is very, very difficult to stop them.
I was cutting across a wide lawn at our local park during summer with my daughter in the buggy. It was early evening and we were on our way home from nursery and my daughter was singing away and waving to people. About halfway across I noticed a lad walk through the gates with his XL Bully dog and let it off the lead. It wasn't muzzled. It immediately took off away from its owner and started barking. Was it excited? Was it friendly? I had no idea but I quickened my pace whilst trying very hard not to run, and tried to shush my daughter so we wouldn't draw it's attention to us because we were in an open space and I felt completely vulnerable. The thoughts that flashed through my head! And I clearly wasn't alone. There were several people (mostly mothers) who began quickly gathering their kids to leave as soon as that dog arrived.

I agree. I feel bad as I have worked in canine welfare, but it is what it is. I'm fortunate to live in a suburban coastal area, where most people own spaniels, labs, cockerpoos etc...
I have a very large breed who is
a therapy dog, and also a full on 'in your face' 6 month old Lab, who is so OTT on approach to any high energy dog on our local beach, she deserves to get instantly banned and to make no friends whatsoever! I jest. I have to be on a constant lookout for other dogs and gauge their body language / put her on the lead if she's too excited. The high energy of excitement is definitely what provokes most dog attacks. A chilled dog rarely becomes reactive, unless it's resource guarding, and the switch happens within seconds.

I think the world would be better off without them.

Whenever I see them, they are always owned by a visible arsehole.

XL bullies should disappear because they are dangerous animals. They are an ethical minefield cos ignorant thickos like to drag them round cos they 'look hard.' I don't care if your XL Bully is 'a softie' - it's dangerous.

Hmm-that's not really what this thread is about, is it?

When I was at secondary school, my mate's mum had a shop and took her breeding bitches there as they whelped.

Non pregnant bitch, no pups in her care. Bitch chomped on a primary aged school girl. A lot of damage, hospital, so on...

Go on - tell me the breed? You'll be surprised.
And I can't be arsed with the guessing games - so here is the breed that ended up being destroyed because of an attack...

A shih tzu.

Yep.

A shih tzu.

I have an American bulldog who is one of the breeds that make an xl bully. Defra don't recognise him as a true breed in itself, but do recognise cane corso, pit bull, French and UK bulldog. He comes under the "criteria" so has to be muzzled in public. He is a massive idiot. Wants to be friends with any human or animal.

The house immediately behind our fire escape at work has got an XL bully that had pups... so 4 of them caged with chicken wire in the corner of a garden with 3 or 4 young children living there too. I've reported it to the Police, SS and the council home owners.. no one gives a shit. 4 huge dogs never walked, never stimulated, shouted at constantly, and barely fed from looking at their condition. Breaks my heart to see any dog kept like it, but I'd imagine it's the standard XL bully care. These dogs are ticking time bombs kept so cruelly.

There was one being walked off lead on a footpath near us the other day umuzzled.

I clocked it straight away and the owner was drinking a can of Monster energy drink(says it all). He called it over and it did go but then I saw the muzzle hanging on the owner's bag.

So I can only assume that he'd muzzled it where he thought he'd be seen and then unmuzzled it when he thought he was alone.
No one enforces the rules.
Terrifying.

I’m a dog owner and I’d 100% be in favour of a cull of all of them too. I don’t care if he’s soft as butter. He’s got jaws that can kill an adult human male and an unpredictable temper to match - a liability. Even the most horrific human abusers are ‘nice most of the time’.

@Penguinmouse

XL bullies aren't aggressive because they are bad. They are aggressive because they have been so intensely bred for it that it has become genetic. And who bred them to be aggressive? Humans. No not all owners are bad, but the dog isn't either. In this circumstances, both dog and human are the victims of stupid humans from years gone by by.

That’s shit. I’m sorry you experience dog owners that don’t follow the rules. I and many of my fellow dog owners do follow the rules but there are always bad eggs, same as people who don’t obey traffic laws or parking restrictions or just general law and order.

I wouldn’t dream of leaving poo bag baubles hanging from trees or letting my dog loose on a beach where it was prohibited. That’s just totally socially irresponsible.

Exterminate the lot of them.

For those saying 'it's the owners', firstly a dog can turn very quickly. It takes less than a second. Secondly the type of person that owns them isn't gonna change.

They're generally just used as dick enlargers for insecure men. Bred for aggression. No need for them to exist.

@Nezuko22

Have you ever owned a dog?

What about the hundreds of breeds who are just fine in domestic settings and bring so much joy to their owners? My dog has been the only thing to get me out of the house sometimes. And before you say that the relationship is only beneficial for me, she is loved to bits and has the life of Riley.

My family had two dogs in the 1970s and they had to have a licence. Just did a quick google and they were abolished in 1987 as they were thought to be unnecessary. Difficulty policing may have been a part of that but I'm not old enough to have first hand knowledge.

For me we should have laws like they do in Canada, where dogs can only be off lead in public in specialist enclosed areas. I was actually able to go for a run without a dog trying to jump up at me - heaven.

I think a lot of people’s frustration with this now is that the media really bigged these new laws up as being water tight, amazing, a problem solver. And actually in practice they just aren’t.

There are 2 in my local area which have never been an issue and are lovely dogs, there are also 3 which are not and known not to be. The owners of those 3 never have the dogs muzzled, let them off lead to run around in the park etc, and they’ve been reported numerous times by numerous people. But the reality is that the police don’t even have the man power to attend everything, so when someone calls from our local park to say there’s an XL Bully here off lead, no muzzle, the police might make a note of it but they certainly aren’t rushing down. I’ve seen this happen myself multiple times, people see the dogs and calling the police in a panic because this IS against the law, but when the police have 1 set of men left to dispatch and there’s an ongoing robbery/assault/break in/fire etc somewhere and a dog running around in the park not actually hurting anyone albeit it shouldn’t be running there- the police are not coming to see the dog.

There’s also the fact that when the dog hasn’t or isn’t actively hurting anyone the police really don’t seem bothered about doing anything. I’ve posted before to say we were at the beach awhile back and there were 2 lads with XL Bullies off lead, no muzzle, sat at the cafe on the beach a few tables over from us. You could see people watching them and there happened to be police in the car park so one woman went to get them obviously thinking/hoping they’d be taken. The police walked over, told the lads they needed to be muzzled and on leads, the lads said ah okay no problem and popped the leads on and walked away, police just went back to their car and drove off. No details taken, no images, no way of tracking who they’ve spoke to/warned and also no sense of any telling off or punishment at all.

The laws could be effective IF we had the powers to actually keep on top of it and attend. There’s just no deterrent at the moment, police only seem to attend once a dog has actually attacked at which point it’s too late.

"It's the owner not the dog."

And what kind of owner deliberately chooses the biggest scariest dog with a reputation for killing people, which has only been created to get around the pit bull bans?

A man was attacked by an XL Bully last week in my town’s high street. It’s very near to my child’s nursery. If it’s the dog I think it is, I’ve seen it about when I’ve dropped her off in the morning. It wasn’t muzzled.

*edited for grammar

what about the dogs that chase postal people and bite them, yes they may not do as much damage but they still attack