Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

Even the ones who rape and murder?

I live in South London. Often see these dogs unmuzzled off the lead in my local park. The owners don't give a shit - usually male. I do often wish these dogs would disappear along with their irresponsible owners.

Perhaps I am a dope. But at least I don’t go around calling other grown adults names when I absolutely don’t know a singular thing about them ;)

Also one attack on a person is one too many.

Why do people want to have these dogs?

Apart from wanting to 'look hard' /intimidating?? There are loads of breeds to choose from, that are lovely dogs and who wouldn't turn into vicious killing machines ...

I worked a very poverty stricken housing estates... Every other house had a large intimidating dog (at the time dobermans) ... Often not trained and often kept to intimidate neighbours /strangers /social workers.... Many would boast of their dogs aggression.

We worked several cases where small kids were taken into care following nasty bites parents prioritising their animals over their toddlers ('no, Fang looks intimidating but hes a real sweetheart... ')

Why would anyone want to risk their kids/anyone's life??

Yanbu. My nephew had one and bred it with another, they are huge, terrifying things with weird legs and docked ears, I actually feel sorry for them because they're being (in) bred to fail basically. The poster they put on FB advertising the litter looked like a fight promotion poster. Sold them for cash to morons via FB.

They've since had to get rid of theirs because it was getting aggressive around their 1 year old son. Terrifying.

So yes, it's owners. And it's breeders. And, as sad as it is, yes it is the dog. In bred with a kill switch, massive and strong with lock jaw, making them impossible to control if/when they do turn. They should be banned and bred out, if anything as a kindness to the dogs themselves.

there are a few in our neighbourhood and it scares the crap out of me when I walk our dog. We walked past one recently and the owner jumped back off the path, struggling to hold the dog back. Owner was a tiny petite woman and dog was enormous. No muzzle. She could barely hold dog back. If the dog had broken free, I've no doubt serious injury or death would've occurred.

@ZippyLimeSnake , to echo another poster , I would genuinely like to know why you chose an xl bully over other dog breeds ?

I was getting my eyebrows waxed recently and the beautician was talking about how it’s unfair people cross the road when she’s with her XL. Then a minute later tells me she had to hold back her dog from jumping on a cold caller at her door. 🤦‍♀️
Didn’t say I would be one of those crossing the road as didn’t want messed up eyebrows.

Ear cropping is thankfully illegal in the UK so if you are in Britain it won’t have been done by a vet, but by the idiot breeder or owner.
I agree with pps, XL bullies are responsible for a disproportionate number of fatal attacks, and as a breed they do seem to have an innate predisposition towards random and unpredictable attacks. I saw news footage of an XL bully attacking a man, and the body language of the dog was startling. The dog was happy and clearly enjoying itself rather than reacting defensively or protectively. It was how some breeds of dog might behave with a small prey animal, rather than how a dog is when fighting or highly defensive. Horrifying.

YANBU

I felt so uncomfortable seeing such a dog with a man and his tiny daughter who must have been about one and about level with the dog’s face.

I’m afraid this is true. There’s simply no other logical explanation for getting an XL bully than because you think it says something about you. And what you think it says is pathetic, aggressive and intimidating.

The owners are without exception intellectually challenged, selfish people who aspire to a particularly unpleasant kind of low life aggressive aesthetic, who invariably go on to justify this by saying the dog is a “softie”. It’s so predictable.

I love dogs and have no problem with responsible dog ownership but this is something completely warped. It’s a real shame that they have been allowed to proliferate as they have but yes they should be culled.

Yanbu. They're foul creatures. Even a rottweiler is a good dog if trained well and owned by a fit, disciplined person. But all XL's are too strong, agressive and thick to be trained properly.

XL Bullies have a genetic predisposition to violence and aggression. Yes they can be "big dopes" but under the surface that same thing exists and it's only a matter of time. The thing is, they're bred to be pure muscle. That's what makes them so dangerous. If a Labrador snapped it would be painful but not deadly.

When a Bully snaps that's it. They're set on that target and won't stop until neutralised. They're horrific things.

41 and men as a species do more harm than dogs ever do. Example - breeding dogs to be this way.

That’s terrifying x

I really do not know how to reply to such a ridiculous response how old are you 15?

you can not equate human behaviour to dogs behaviour as we are different species maybe thats a start ….

Christ the comments made when discussing dangerous dogs never fails to amaze me

@ZippyLimeSnake Genuine question- why did you choose an XLB?

Unfortunately for these dogs it is both the owner and the breed. Extremely powerful and aggressive dog, in the hands of inappropriate and /or antisocial owners is never going to work.

And yes, the breed does matter. My sister has recently rescued a miniature dachshund from a terrible life. The dog has never been trained and will need a lot of work, which she is doing. The point is, the dog is aggressive and poorly behaved, but weighs about 4kg. If he goes for anyone, they are not going to die.

I'd support a law in that all dogs must be kept on a lead in public spaces unless it's a special fenced off area. I'm sick of dog owners letting their dogs do whatever they want. I don't want any dog jumping up at me or my child, no matter the breed. I agree some breeds particularly xl bullies and similar shouldn't exist at all. There's no need to have a dog that's that strong and capable of killing someone.

I do sometimes feel bad about my cats quality of life being indoors. But I don't see the problem if they could go outside

Crikey , that is simultaneously tragic and cruel .
There are some sick people out there and I am reminded of the novel The Isle of Doctor Moreau .

So? We all know that any breed can and will bite. My sister was bitten on the face by a sausage dog she bent down to pet.

But what do you think would’ve happened to the girl in your story if that dog has been an XL?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured

By the police or the dog?

When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist

Well instead of sending people to overcrowded prisons for months on end, at huge public cost, perhaps judges could just sentence people to be slapped on the wrist instead if there is no material difference. It would help solve a lot of problems.