Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

As I have previously said, would you make these same comments to other people with large breeds?

If you read some of my posts I actually very much respect the rules of the ban & follow them, since the ban I have taken further steps to avoid making people feel uncomfortable whilst I am out walking my dog. I am very far from a hateful individual, but please continue your assumptions on someone you have absolutely no idea about.

These women on here defending XL bullies remind me of women who knowingly go into relationships with incredibly violent men. There's this sick delusion that they can tame him, he'll be different with them because they understand him like no one else has.

No one says these dogs are aggressive absolutely all the time. The same way collies won't herd constantly and terriers don't chase small things constantly.
These dogs come from bulldogs which were bred for bull baiting and fighting. They were deliberately bred for their aggression.
If you honestly think years of breeding has been bred out of these dogs in a short time do you also think terriers and collies don't display their instincts after a few generations?
The problem with XL bullies/pitbulls etc is they can turn. Do you think all those owners who called their dog softies and cuties etc then one day ate half their face were lying? "Oh I know that woman on the news said her dog was soft and sweet for years but she must have just not noticed its bad temperament. MINE however really IS soft sweet."
The other issue the damage they can cause. If a sausage dog goes for me I can likely kick it away. I cannot do that if a big dog does that. Especially bull dogs. Which were bred to not stop no matter what. What's the point in breeding fighting dogs that will stop the second it gets a bit hurt or if someone says no? They have been trained and bred for decades to ignore all that and keep going no matter what. So that's why beating it while it's attacking will unlikely stop it. But may well stop other breeds.
I was in Canada once and saw a few black bears. They all just plodded along ignoring all the humans taking photos. But because I've seen a few placid bears on holiday doesn't mean they aren't potentially dangerous if you're unlucky. They are dangerous animals and should ideally be avoided.

ZippyLimeSnake · Yesterday 18:53

Please don’t come at me for what I am about to say.. But in a lot of cases it is the owner not the breed, I have an XL Bully and honestly he is the biggest dope and all he wants is for you or anyone to just love him …”

Sure. Until that genetic switch in his head flips one day and he decides to rip their throat out.
You are deluded.

Before the ban came in I would walk my dog during any hour of the day, if I could see people felt uncomfortable I would try to cross over the road if I was able to. Or I’d make my dog lay down so they were able to walk past & feel more comfortable. My dog is made to lay & wait if I am having a conversation with someone or if we are stood still for a prolonged period of time & that is more so for the comfort of other people as I feel like him laying down is less threatening looking than him standing there looking at you. However the amount of people I have actually come across who are scared of him are few and far between and I have had people who walk past me regularly who were scared of him who now will come over and talk to me and give him some attention.

Since the ban however & due to a lot of peoples opinions & comments about XLs I do tend to walk him earlier in the mornings & later in the evenings if I am able to do so & then I take him to secured fields for off lead time as & when I can. As since the ban people do treat us more like we are criminals out walking our criminal dogs. I suppose that’s just part and parcel with having the dog I do though and I accept that this is how it’ll probably forever be with us.

We have one in our block of flats. Its massive.
The young male owner has mental health problems, at the weekend when he has been drinking you can hear him through the walls screaming ( saying things like help me, please no etc) it seems like he has quite bad hallucinations as he screams that he can see it, go away.

There is also the mum in the house and a small child about two.

They came out with it the other day, child in pram being pushed by mum, dad with it on a chain type lead. As soon as it was out of the building door it started going mental, barking jumping up, going for cars. And the young man could barely keep hold of it. They didn't make it as far as the end of the road before having to turn back. Haven't seen or heard the dog in a while, so take it they have given up trying to walk it outside

Now every noise, every shout, or cry that comes from that flat my heart is in my throat. The other day there was a crash noise and the mum starting screaming oh no, oh god no. Luckily about two seconds later she started shouting about something being spilled, but in those two seconds it was a panic.

A dog that chances are already is on a hairpin trigger due to the breading being in that environment is not going to end well. Everyone around them are terrified

No dog is infallible. I've heard so many stories over the years of dogs fanatically trained and normally very placid and gentle who either become unwell or some invisible injury that makes them suddenly volatile or they just suddenly decide they perceive a threat. You've chosen to have a dog, where if that did happen, neither you nor any other person stands a chance at getting that dog off the poor victim.
You are a hateful individual, quite possibly with psychopathic tendencies which is why you enjoy frightening people every time you take your dog for a walk and why you have the arrogance to feel entitled to risk others lives.

Whenever I see yet another article about one of these hideous creatures attacking someone, I always worry about coming across one one day while I'm out with my children, it's genuinely frightening to think of how you would (or wouldn't) be able to protect a child if an XL bully decided to attack, and it baffles me why people still want to keep them as 'pets'. I agree that they should all be PTS, but I can't see that ever happening.

People are rude because it's so blatantly obvious to most that those dogs you defend are a far higher risk than any other breed due to their size, strength and temperament

Sorry but you are just in complete denial.

The dog problem in this country has become insane, its way out of control.
All XL bullies need to be culled.
All dog owners need to pay for an annual license, should be v.expensive IMO to cover wages for teams of people to clear all the mounds of dog crap everywhere. If you have/want a breed of dog that is known to be potentially dangerous; rottweiler, German shepherd, bull mastif, doberman etc then these people should be heavily vetted.

There is a risk owning any dog in the grand scheme of it. Any dog can maul a child to death, having any dog in a home is a risk. I understand an XL Bully is a strong dog but to me any dog is a risk.

Which is exactly why I choose not to have dogs around my small child. Especially one that is physically stronger than I am and I couldn't not overpower it if I needed to. It makes me feel physically sick and hugely anxious when I see photos on social media of people's huge dogs next to small children. Terrifying that anyone is prepared to take that chance, I don't care how "soft" you think your dog is. I judge those people, hard. And I don't apologise for it,

XL bullies have the potential to kill.

They are incredibly strong as this attack shows

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/suspected-xl-bully-clamped-onto-9625148

Then where do you stop

I wouldn’t think less of you, but I would feel a very deep dread that one day your confidence in those dogs could be shattered followed by a lifetime of guilt. It’s the naive ‘it’ll never happen with my dogs’ attitude that disturbs me the most, because it’s a running theme with dangerous dog owners.

I cannot imagine walking down the street with a dog that actually scares people, I’m intrigued to know how that makes you feel?

If it wasn’t the XL Bully it would be another breed of dog (I think next bad breed/status dog is going to be the Cane Corso). I do think Britain has a dog problem in general (I say that as a dog owner). Far too many people are getting dogs that can’t provide them with the time/training/space/exercise they need.

I do not leave my children alone with my dog & that isn’t because he’s an XL that’s because I wouldn’t leave them alone in a room with any dog full stop.

What do you think you'd be able to do by being in the room, if your dog decided to attack?

I agree with PPs that I wouldn't ever have a pet I couldn't physically overpower if it came to it. Yes a chihuahua could attack a child - but I could also pick it up and throw it across the room (obviously I'm talking about a situation where it attacked, I'm not just throwing dogs for fun).
The videos you see of XL bullies attacking they don't even seem to notice, let alone stop, if a fully grown man grabs them or hits them with something.

I absolutely would ask that question of any large dog owner to be honest.

I don’t think you have an answer.

How I have learnt to get an attacking dog off my own dog.

But again, this is something we should be asking any dog owner of a big breed should it not be? What would you do if your Cane Corso, Rottweiler, Doberman, American Bulldog, German Shepherd, Bull Mastiff ect. Attacked a child? As all these dogs are big and all can out power a human realistically.

Yanbu OP, they should all be euthanised tomorrow. Real dog breeders breed health and love into their dogs, not hate and rage.

Latest example of many reasons why: last weekend a thug owner was sitting in my local park cafe, watching his off-lead XL monster attack another dog that was on a lead. He just sat drinking coffee then started shouting at the poor woman whose dog was being mauled that it was her fault for her dog being on a lead?? These people are making life unliveable for everyone else. This appears to be the mentality of the average XL Bully owner, for choosing to own a creature bred purely to scare, intimidate, attack and kill and then bleating about how harmless they are. It is always someone else's fault, even when you are blatantly in the wrong.

But putting them to sleep won't solve the problem completely. British attitudes to dogs in general need to evolve and laws urgently need to be changed. Licences, signs in parks, bans, police giving a shit. All these things need to happen.

Destroy every single one of them and give an immediate jail term for breeders or owners who don’t submit them for destruction.

Yesterday I had an extremely disturbing clip on X show up on my feed of 2 attacking a man who died from his injuries. Absolutely horrific. Literally dog versions of lions or tigers.

Anyone who is psychotic enough to allow them near children should be charged with endangerment.

There is a risk owning any dog in the grand scheme of it. Any dog can maul a child to death, having any dog in a home is a risk. I understand an XL Bully is a strong dog but to me any dog is a risk.

I don’t let people’s opinions of me bother me, life is too short to care what strangers think. I know the type of person I am & who I am, & I'm pretty certain if you saw me in the street without my dog you most definitely wouldn’t put me into the same category as people do when they think of XL Bully owners 🤣

People are totally allowed their opinions & observations, what I hate is when they’re rude about it.

Anyone that chooses an XL Bully as a pet has serious issues.

I really don't like them. My sister is friends with someone who has a massive one and it makes me feel sick when she posts pics of my niece with the dog, minus it's muzzle. When walking my dog I get so anxious that we will be attacked it makes me feel sick.

Does that dog mace type spray work? I honestly do not know what I would do if one went for my dog.

Ok but what would you actually do if your dog went for your child, suddenly and without warning? How would you stop it?