Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

It's not just that they are related to Kimbo either. There's a ridiculous amount of inbreeding of his descendents.

Another big issue is that around 50% (possibly more) of the XL bullies in the UK can be traced back to one particularly dangerous and unstable individual called Kimbo.

Kimbo was an extremely inbred XL bully from the US who was prolifically used as a stud due to his size and strength. If you Google it you'll see many serious attacks perpetrated by his offspring. A test of 50 studs from the UK found that 32 of them could be traced back to Kimbo.

I think this is a large factor as the problems seem restricted to the XL variant of the bully rather than other types like the standard bully which is still a large powerful dog (bigger than a pitbull). The article below goes into a lot of depth about it.

https://banthebullyxluk.wordpress.com/2023/08/01/finding-kimbo/

2 dead this week and one injured. It's fucking stupid.

People are so stupid. That's a big part of the issue IMO. You wouldn't allow your child to mess around with a temperamental horse and stand right where it could kick them, for instance. Powerful dogs like this need to be treated with the same caution.

The Scottish Sun – Latest news, sports, showbiz, and celebrities www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/13990114/first-pic-of-mum-mauled-to-death-aberdeen/

And another one.......

Agree this shouldn't be a risk the public face, including dc

I still am very disappointed by the rspcas response. They were a part of my life / a respected chariry for ever like the salvation army, but they opposed any action on xl bullies and so I have to consider them crazy animal worshippers now with no consideration for human life

My MP wrote back saying she'd written to the secretary of state enquiring about the effectiveness of the ban and that Defra are monitoring it. I would encourage all of you to also write to you MP on this. I don't know what can really be done as there has never as far as a know been a cull of pets in this country but obviously there have never been fighting dogs bred in this scale and bought by normal members of the public ever before so in a way the dangerous dogs legislation isn't really fit for purpose anymore.

I really dont understand why people keep wanging on about how they were once bitten by a chihuahua - yes, you may well have been but the point is you are still alive. If an XL bully attacked you, you wouldnt be posting about it on here because you'd likely have no arm left.

XL bullies have killed people- they have the power to be able to do that. We havent reintroduced guns back into the UK population on the rationale that some people have been injured by a knife have we? what kind of idiotic argument is that?

Mongrel is just a dated term used when people owned dogs of unknown breeds. It's not as common now as most people know which breeds their cross breeds are made up of.

There are a lot of people on MN who love to throw the word mongrel at people who own poodle crosses though. They assume it will really upset them, just as they like to tell them they don't own a "breed". Someone also said they're not real dogs 😂

It's all a bit ridiculous really, but poodle crosses really do bring out the dog snobs.

Yes, me. I adore dogs and have always had them (I have one now sitting on my lap) but the situation with these dogs is now completely out of control. They are killing people FFS.

I am fed up of taking my dog out for a walk and being paranoid and scared if anything that resembles an XL bully breed comes anywhere near us. My dog wouldnt stand a chance against one and would be dead within seconds, let alone a child.

People's "right" to own this breed does not outweigh other people's rights to safety. This breed should not exist any more because time and time again it has been shown that people simply cannot be responsible for them. I am so fed up of hearing the phrase "he/she was a gentle family dog, it was completely out of character!". STFU. Thats little comfort to the person who died.

Ah I see, thank you for the explanation as I was not aware of that.

@HidingHereForTomorrow

The unregistered churning out of puppies goes for many breeds like the bichon, Maltese, CKCS as well as the poodle crosses. Most buyers know the poodle crosses aren't purebred pedigrees but want one anyway.

Also, if you breed two dogs together, say a toy poodle with a cocker spanielyou get an F1 cross breed.
When you start breeding F2 litters is when the waters get muddier and the word mongrel may be used because a mongrel is used for dogs with 3 or more breeds in its make up.

So a "cavapoo" bred with a "cockapoo" would give mongrel puppies.

Thanks Hiding, I thought maybe she meant KCS and got autocorrected.

Fair enough, I do agree that poodle crosses make good family pets. It annoys me though that backyard breeders have created these names for them.. designer dogs 🙄 and they are everywhere and charge thousands.. There is no standard, they can keep churning them out and when the bitch is too old, she is discarded.

I didn't take "such offence" I found it quite funny actually.

I'm not sure even dickheads buy a dog as they like the name 🤷‍♀️

There are decent breeders out there and actually some of the crosses make pretty perfect pets, with many being used as therapy dogs.

Let's not forget there are poor breeders of purebred dogs too. There are more backyard breeders of poodle crosses currently as they're popular dogs, so of course they become desirable by puppy farmers. But they're popular for a reason - as they're generally nice, family dogs.

It’s a meme 🙄 no need to take such offence just Google kfc puppy. Poodle crosses are mongrels as you know, and backyard breeders have made £10ks each since they have started giving them cutey names.. and the buyers are suckered in. Paying thousands for a mongrel pup with no history.. they are everywhere now. Anyway that’s not the point of this thread so I’ll leave it.

I really think it depends on the owner. I take my bully, Diesel, to the local park after work when the weather's okay. Nothing better than cracking a fozzies whilst diesel pants away. He's happy, I'm happy and the other people in the play area don't seem to mind. Perhaps UABU.

What? Well I've heard a lot of ridiculous, untrue comments about poodle crosses, but this is the most bizarre one yet 😂

Also KFC dogs are the mongrels like cockerpoodle this and that, labradoodles this and that. Yorkiepoodledoodles 🙄 at least the ones that look like fried chicken, orange and curly or whatnot. Breeders have really taken buyers for a spin.

You’d be surprised what you can do if your child is being attacked. I have never done it, but an old man who has been in rescue for years told me to do it if nothing else is working and I assure you, nothing other than a bullet will put them down if they attack. More of a distraction to get them to let go even for just a moment.

Too many, that's why it's illegal to keep one. 13 people were killed by XL bullies last year. Also too many.

Yalta what is a KFC dog? I have googled but just get images of dogs with branded chicken.

HidingHereForTomorrow I have met a friendly full grown XL and got bruised by its friendly tail. I can't imagine many humans are big enough to reach both its collar and a pointy stick up its bum at the same time.

Here for the tips on how to survive a dog attack, or help someone else do so.

How many people would be killed if there was as many pet lions as there are XL bullies?

Or are we using the logic that Covid is worse than cancer because it's more common?

How many people have been killed by lions in the UK in the last year?