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To think I did NOT give them a “present” of horrible wine!

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CherryShirt · 13/10/2024 16:37

A few weeks ago I bought some wine (Royal Tokaji) on special offer, as it had really good reviews and it was a great discount. Well, the reviewers and I obviously had different tastes, as I really didn’t like it. I persevered through a large glass, as I know sometimes unfamiliar tastes can feel unpleasant until you get used to them, but I just didn’t like it.

This weekend I’ve been to visit my parents. They’re both into wine, so, as I had another bottle left, I took it with me to see if it would be more to their tastes. I explained that I hadn’t liked it, but thought they might like to give it a try; after all, it would just have sat gathering dust in my house.

My dad burst out laughing and said, “Oh, so you thought you come to visit and bring some horrible wine, did you? Ooh, what a lovely present. ‘Ooh, happy birthday - here’s some horrible wine!’” This is typical of the kind of “joke” he makes, so I just laughed and replied, “Well it’s not your birthday, is it? And it’s not a present - it’s not like I’ve deliberately bought something I think is awful. I just thought you might want to try it; maybe you’ll like it”.

Neither he or my mum liked it. Fine - it would have only got poured down the sink anyway, so it was worth (in my eyes) checking if they liked it before chucking it. My mum said she’d leave it in the fridge and would cook with it. All good - or so I thought.

My dad kept on about the wine ALL weekend. Every time he had anything to drink, it would be “This is nice - not like the horrible wine you brought us, because you don’t love us”, in this mock childish voice. I tried to ignore it the first night, as taking a joke and stretching it to breaking point is pretty much his MO. But he kept on and on about it. The next night at dinner it was, “Are we having nice wine tonight, or horrible wine?” My aunt phoned and I had a chat with her on my mum’s tablet; my dad peered over my shoulder and said, “Has she told you about the horrible wine?”

Today I’ve flipped. He mentioned it AGAIN and I snapped, “For God’s sake, will you shut up about the bloody wine!! I KNOW you didn’t like it; you’ve said it again and again. But it’s not like I deliberately bought something I thought you wouldn’t like and wrapped it up as a present. I just thought you might want to try it before I threw it out; THAT’S ALL!!”

Of course, now he’s sulking. He was only saying; why can’t I take a joke? And my mum is saying why am I letting it get to me, I know what he’s like etc… basically making it all about my reaction instead of him being an arse all weekend.

I’m sick to the back teeth of it. What sort of “joke” has to go on all weekend and make someone feel shit into the bargain? Why has he made me feel like I deliberately bought them a crappy gift? Frankly I feel like telling him to shove it (and buying him a fucking case of the stuff for Christmas).

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rainfallpurevividcat · 14/10/2024 02:30

YANBU - Royal Toyaji wine can be delicious, we used to have Tokaji Azsu dessert wine at Christmas and my DF in particular loved it.

Your dad was being a total teed, glad you pulled him up on it.

OnYourTogs · 14/10/2024 02:24

FKAT · 13/10/2024 16:46

@DanielaDressen Why would you take a gift to stay at your parents? They're not 'hosts' - they're your family.

YANBU, your dad sounds a right twat. Is he always like this?

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If I am going to stay with my mother, I normally bring a small gift (flowers/chocolate etc). She may be my parent but she is also hosting me.

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Teanbiscuits33 · 13/10/2024 22:38

Flamingos89 · 13/10/2024 17:20

Cant believe this post is trending 😂

There is literally no issue here and the OP needs to chill out and move past it. Your life must be extremely blessed if this is the biggest issue in it.

A dad/ grandfather taking a joke to far or excessively repeating it….. shocking

It’s the OP’s dad who needs to ‘’chill out and move past it’’ not her. I know exactly the sort of people you mean, OP, and there’s nothing worse. He clearly was offended and passively aggressively making that known under the guise of a joke, trying to make you feel small and humiliated. He sounds like an insufferable twat 🤣. I’m not surprised you snapped, I’d have reacted exactly the same.

Sodthebloodymealplan · 13/10/2024 22:36

And there is the problem. The bringing it up over and over and over again. Something that as a one off might have been passed off as mildly amusing becomes a stick to beat you with.

As an example...
My father has done this with my mother. Something sentimental to him got accidentally broken. Over 40 years later, he still 'jokes' about her throwing it across the room at him. We all know she didn't, it slipped from her hand and smashed at her feet. She has cried and begged and pleaded with him to stop, but because he thinks it is funny, he keeps on needling her.

I won't start on all the occasions he has done it to me. How he has utterly undermined my self belief.

RosieShacklebolt · 13/10/2024 22:17

ticklecrabs · 13/10/2024 22:13

Urrrrrgh my dad can be a bit like this too and it is tedious beyond belief. I usually start saying something like "oh Dad the dementia is starting to kick in, you've forgotten that you've made that joke twice already" then "poor Dad, off he goes again with the same joke, he's losing his marbles" each time he does it.

What's annoying is that now every time you visit or even drink wine with them he'll bring it up.

Oh my goodness your last line - it's so true, I can completely see this happening - oh nooo, OP 🙈

ticklecrabs · 13/10/2024 22:13

Urrrrrgh my dad can be a bit like this too and it is tedious beyond belief. I usually start saying something like "oh Dad the dementia is starting to kick in, you've forgotten that you've made that joke twice already" then "poor Dad, off he goes again with the same joke, he's losing his marbles" each time he does it.

What's annoying is that now every time you visit or even drink wine with them he'll bring it up.

bumsnetto · 13/10/2024 22:08

Acquired?

AderynBach · 13/10/2024 21:43

AGoingConcern · 13/10/2024 21:16

Again, "intuitively understanding how other people might feel" and "being sensitive" are absolutely not the same thing as not believing other people's feelings are valid and important. Caring about hurting other people is not a cognitive or communication skill, it's a character value.

Trying to excuse the latter under the guise of autism or neurodiversity harms everyone, especially autistic people like myself who don't deserve to have autism thought of as a lack of empathy or respect for others.

Edited

Ok, but were OP's feelings hurt? It sounds more annoying/frustrating to me. There's a difference between not understanding the nuances of when to stop an annoying joke or not seeing why it's a big deal to someone, and not caring about them.

Explaining doesn't mean excusing, OP's dad was obviously being extremely annoying. People are so black-and-white on MN, hearing one negative story and assuming the rest, instead of just accepting that people are a mix of different things and have faults and blind spots.

As for the autism thing - I'm just stating my own observations. You don't speak for all autistic people, or other people's experiences of autistic people. It's not a reflection on you.

Littys · 13/10/2024 21:38

FreebieWallopFridge · 13/10/2024 19:21

I’m starting to wonder what schools are teaching to have turned out so many allegedly functional adults who can’t comprehend simple sentences.

OP, your dad was being an arse.

I have never come across a site with such poor literacy and basic comprehension issues, post after post, and used to bully too.

The OP's father is a nasty arse.
"Sensitive" is used by abusive bullys.

phoenixrosehere · 13/10/2024 21:35

itzthTtimeGib · 13/10/2024 20:56

Same? I can’t imagine getting offended by those comments/jokes. Clearly in the minority!

Offended, no, but definitely would find a person tedious and annoying for making the same “joke” repeatedly for an entire weekend.

IamGrout · 13/10/2024 21:29

Your dad was being an arse (and a bully). Giving them something to try as they might like it is fine.

I gave my mum an opened pack of fruit pots the other day (3 pots from a pack of 4). Told her that I had bought a different brand to normal but I didn't like them so did she want to try them. She took them, didn't like them either, and binned them. No drama at all.

Ambienteamber · 13/10/2024 21:18

My mum is like this. Says the meanest things at my expense and if I react negatively then it's 'you can't take a joke' 'you're so sensitive' or the best one yet 'I live in fear of your moods'
Funnily enough I have this problem with no one else in my life, because even the worst people I've ever met don't speak to me like she does and don't make 'jokes' like she does.

MeetThePainters · 13/10/2024 21:17

FreebieWallopFridge · 13/10/2024 19:21

I’m starting to wonder what schools are teaching to have turned out so many allegedly functional adults who can’t comprehend simple sentences.

OP, your dad was being an arse.

Me too. The hard of thinking are out in force this evening. Maybe they've been on the bottle!

AGoingConcern · 13/10/2024 21:16

AderynBach · 13/10/2024 21:06

If you want to see it that way, sure. I think if you don't intuitively understand how other people might feel about something, it can be harder to learn to be sensitive. It doesn't mean you're an arsehole in every other way. We are talking about tedious joking here, not actual cruelty.

Again, "intuitively understanding how other people might feel" and "being sensitive" are absolutely not the same thing as not believing other people's feelings are valid and important. Caring about hurting other people is not a cognitive or communication skill, it's a character value.

Trying to excuse the latter under the guise of autism or neurodiversity harms everyone, especially autistic people like myself who don't deserve to have autism thought of as a lack of empathy or respect for others.

AderynBach · 13/10/2024 21:06

AGoingConcern · 13/10/2024 20:55

Some have the thought process that if they don't see the problem, then it's other people being irrational. So you can have both cognitive and emotional empathy deficits

This is just being an asshole - someone who thinks other people's views and feelings are unimportant and worthless.

Some autistic people are indeed assholes just like some neurotypical people are assholes.

If you want to see it that way, sure. I think if you don't intuitively understand how other people might feel about something, it can be harder to learn to be sensitive. It doesn't mean you're an arsehole in every other way. We are talking about tedious joking here, not actual cruelty.

itzthTtimeGib · 13/10/2024 20:56

PondWarrior · 13/10/2024 20:17

Sounds like totally normal family humour to me, and I wouldn’t bat an eyelid - but I’m a northerner 🤷🏻‍♀️

Same? I can’t imagine getting offended by those comments/jokes. Clearly in the minority!

Littys · 13/10/2024 20:56

OP, so sorry so many on this thread don't get your clearly written post.

Your father is an arse.
A tedious, dull, repetitive arse.
Your mother confirmed it.

My advice is don't bother doing anything like this again and perhaps see less of him.
See your mother for coffee out of the house.

AGoingConcern · 13/10/2024 20:55

Some have the thought process that if they don't see the problem, then it's other people being irrational. So you can have both cognitive and emotional empathy deficits

This is just being an asshole - someone who thinks other people's views and feelings are unimportant and worthless.

Some autistic people are indeed assholes just like some neurotypical people are assholes.

DodoTired · 13/10/2024 20:52

Sorry he’s a dick.
let him sulk!

AderynBach · 13/10/2024 20:50

AgileGreenSeal · 13/10/2024 20:30

THIS.
(I speak as someone diagnosed with autism).

Yes, but autistic people aren't all the same.

You can be autistic and have other things going on. Not all autistic people are super caring, just like not all neurotypical people are. Some have the thought process that if they don't see the problem, then it's other people being irrational. So you can have both cognitive and emotional empathy deficits to a certain extent working 'in tandem', without necessarily intending to be an arsehole.

Waffle78 · 13/10/2024 20:50

Sounds like a right miserable old fart. Did you try mixing it with something? I can't drink red wine on it's own but I love it with orange Fanta.

Poppins2016 · 13/10/2024 20:49

YANBU. My parents do similar and sometimes bring random bottles when they visit... why chuck out a bottle of wine if someone else might like it?! I'm not offended if it's terrible and they're not offended if I pour it away in front of them if it happens to be terrible (generally pretty unusual, however it does happen... a proportion of their wine collection belonged to my late grandfather who died 8 years ago, so not everything is as drinkable as it once was...).

DinosaurMunch · 13/10/2024 20:44

Disturbia81 · 13/10/2024 20:24

@thepariscrimefiles Yep I'm a northerner and he would piss off everyone I know.

Same here. It sounds more like a southern type of situation to me. Can't imagine any northern men I know behaving like this

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