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To think I did NOT give them a “present” of horrible wine!

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CherryShirt · 13/10/2024 16:37

A few weeks ago I bought some wine (Royal Tokaji) on special offer, as it had really good reviews and it was a great discount. Well, the reviewers and I obviously had different tastes, as I really didn’t like it. I persevered through a large glass, as I know sometimes unfamiliar tastes can feel unpleasant until you get used to them, but I just didn’t like it.

This weekend I’ve been to visit my parents. They’re both into wine, so, as I had another bottle left, I took it with me to see if it would be more to their tastes. I explained that I hadn’t liked it, but thought they might like to give it a try; after all, it would just have sat gathering dust in my house.

My dad burst out laughing and said, “Oh, so you thought you come to visit and bring some horrible wine, did you? Ooh, what a lovely present. ‘Ooh, happy birthday - here’s some horrible wine!’” This is typical of the kind of “joke” he makes, so I just laughed and replied, “Well it’s not your birthday, is it? And it’s not a present - it’s not like I’ve deliberately bought something I think is awful. I just thought you might want to try it; maybe you’ll like it”.

Neither he or my mum liked it. Fine - it would have only got poured down the sink anyway, so it was worth (in my eyes) checking if they liked it before chucking it. My mum said she’d leave it in the fridge and would cook with it. All good - or so I thought.

My dad kept on about the wine ALL weekend. Every time he had anything to drink, it would be “This is nice - not like the horrible wine you brought us, because you don’t love us”, in this mock childish voice. I tried to ignore it the first night, as taking a joke and stretching it to breaking point is pretty much his MO. But he kept on and on about it. The next night at dinner it was, “Are we having nice wine tonight, or horrible wine?” My aunt phoned and I had a chat with her on my mum’s tablet; my dad peered over my shoulder and said, “Has she told you about the horrible wine?”

Today I’ve flipped. He mentioned it AGAIN and I snapped, “For God’s sake, will you shut up about the bloody wine!! I KNOW you didn’t like it; you’ve said it again and again. But it’s not like I deliberately bought something I thought you wouldn’t like and wrapped it up as a present. I just thought you might want to try it before I threw it out; THAT’S ALL!!”

Of course, now he’s sulking. He was only saying; why can’t I take a joke? And my mum is saying why am I letting it get to me, I know what he’s like etc… basically making it all about my reaction instead of him being an arse all weekend.

I’m sick to the back teeth of it. What sort of “joke” has to go on all weekend and make someone feel shit into the bargain? Why has he made me feel like I deliberately bought them a crappy gift? Frankly I feel like telling him to shove it (and buying him a fucking case of the stuff for Christmas).

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MoustachedTuna · 04/01/2025 19:10

I know I'm late to this one but it's just popped up on Bored Panda and I just had to comment. I can't believe all of the people saying "I'd be a bit upset if someone gave me a gift of something they didn't like"

Like, how many times in your post did you have to specify that IT WASN'T A BLOODY GIFT!! And again repeating it in your comments and people still can't seem to grasp that fact.

You found something that you'd heard great reviews about, something that's usually quite expensive but there was a great discount so you bought two of them, for yourself. However, you didn't like it. And so instead of dumping both bottles out you instead thought "oh, my parents like wine, I'll see if this is to their liking before wasting it all" and that's what you did. And it turned out they also didn't like it, but your Mum still could make use of it with her cooking. That's literally the story. Completely straight forward. Why do people keep clinging onto the "gift" part? It wasn't a gift, you repeatedly said it wasn't a gift. You just figured you'd see if they liked it before throwing it out.

Jesus Christ.

And people saying "if this is all you have to complain about you should count yourself lucky" oh bugger off, every is entitled to a moan, especially when they've heard about it none stop over a whole weekend. Just either read the rant and move on, or don't. Noone likes a smartarse.

Flumoxed · 23/10/2024 11:25

Yanbu. I do this all the time with family "I got this, but I'm not keen so you can give it a go if you like". Waste not, want not and all that.

sharpclawedkitten · 23/10/2024 11:18

Daisydaisydaizee · 13/10/2024 19:00

It's a bad form to give something you dislike as a present. You say it's not a present but you know they are into wine and you give them something you didn't like because it would be gathering dust in your house.

He is now having a little fun with it. Hope you learnt a lesson from this next time don't give your waste to others.

But it isn't bad form. I don't like Spanish red wines, so don't drink them myself. But I know millions of people DO like them, so it wouldn't be at all unreasonable for me to give a bottle to a friend or family member. Or say "I got this in a wine case and it's not my taste, would you like to try it".

The OP's father has acted very oddly and needs to learn a sense of proportion!

PickAChew · 17/10/2024 19:42

xmaswiththeinlaws · 17/10/2024 18:16

My family actually like Echo Falls and wouldn't be remotely upset if I bought them it whrn going for a meal. We would probably enjoy it more than an expensive prosecco or champagne.

My parents like it, too. It's far from fine wine, though.

xmaswiththeinlaws · 17/10/2024 18:16

PickAChew · 13/10/2024 16:47

He likes to labour a point, doesn't he. It's not like you gave him a nasty bottle of Echo Falls to try. I don't blame you for pushing back.

My family actually like Echo Falls and wouldn't be remotely upset if I bought them it whrn going for a meal. We would probably enjoy it more than an expensive prosecco or champagne.

Asyoulikeit123 · 16/10/2024 18:45

ForBetterForWorseOrNot · 13/10/2024 16:48

Moral of the story is, next time you buy something you think is disgusting and want to give the second bottle away, don't tell the person your giving it to you hated it. Tell them it has excellent reviews and leave it at that.

This is true in a sense, but I'd have been the same, naive/honest thinking I was in safe family company and said the same, my partner hates some of the drinks i like and visa versa, yes lol maybe we need to learn to be more crafty! Lol

Asyoulikeit123 · 16/10/2024 07:07

Oh yes, he sounds annoying, I'd probs blow my top too x

CherryShirt · 15/10/2024 23:39

Aimtodobetter · 15/10/2024 21:46

Royal Tokaj is a well respected and relatively expensive wine (though with an unusual taste profile). The jokes were not just rude, they were ignorant :)

I won’t accept that. It’s not ignorant to dislike a certain type of wine (although it IS a bit ignorant to pretend that every bottle of a certain variety will be of the same high standard). The quality or otherwise of the wine is not the issue here.

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Aimtodobetter · 15/10/2024 21:46

Royal Tokaj is a well respected and relatively expensive wine (though with an unusual taste profile). The jokes were not just rude, they were ignorant :)

Grammarnut · 15/10/2024 19:00

I wouldn't take someone else wine I did not like - I might have to drink it! - but your DF did go on a bit. If he is like that all the time it must be very wearing. Your poor DM!

turbonerd · 15/10/2024 10:31

CherryShirt · 14/10/2024 21:23

Yes, and it’s still irrelevant to the thread.

I only had a large glass because I wanted to see if it was an acquired taste. It wasn’t (for me).

I’m sorry op. The rest of my post got lost, I am very sympathetic to you and your Dad was bang out of order.
I hope you can just avoid them in future, life’s too short for spending time with people bringing you down.

Noononoo · 15/10/2024 10:19

There’s a brilliant film called ,Dean Spanley’ with Peter o Toole which all about the magic powers of tojaki. I love it, the film, not tried the drink, it is an esteemed imperial wine of Eastern Europe but of course a dessert wine not a table wine. You should watch it it will cheer you up no end.
Set in Edwardian London, the film tells the story of the relationship between Horatio Fisk (O'Toole), and his son Henslowe (played by Jeremy Northam). Henslowe meets an eccentric clergyman Dean Spanley (Sam Neill) who, it turns out, enters an altered state whenever he has a glass of Tokaji.
perhaps that is what has happened with your father. And you can keep telling the joke.

Teanbiscuits33 · 15/10/2024 00:25

HideousKinky · 15/10/2024 00:16

Teanbiscuits33 You may be right.... I think I feel unable to say anything about it because she was in fact my head of department in my first job and that sense I must always show her respect has never left me!

She's in her 90s now so I have definitely missed the moment!

This sort of thing is so common. You would think adults, especially at her age, would grow up a bit, but they seldom do! I’d just ask her why she feels the need to keep bringing it up and to please change the record. Or bring something embarrassing up about her. I bet she will get the hump because these types of people don’t like their faults to be remembered and referred to, they have fragile egos hence they just take the piss out of everybody else.

Still, if something from 40 years ago is the only thing she has to say about you, I guess that’s a positive as that means she can’t think of anything else you’ve done that she can use as a stick to beat you with so has to keep bringing the same thing up perpetually.

HideousKinky · 15/10/2024 00:16

Teanbiscuits33 You may be right.... I think I feel unable to say anything about it because she was in fact my head of department in my first job and that sense I must always show her respect has never left me!

She's in her 90s now so I have definitely missed the moment!

Teanbiscuits33 · 14/10/2024 23:52

HideousKinky · 14/10/2024 23:48

You have my sympathy OP. This kind of dynamic is exactly why I avoid certain family members as much as possible.

I also have a very old friend who likes to retell a story about a foolish (but harmless) mistake I made 40 years ago when I was in my 20s - she never seems to notice how uncomfortable it makes me feel and I wish she wouldn't do it, but she does every single time

She does it BECAUSE she knows it makes you uncomfortable, it’s only a joke if both find it funny. She is doing it intentionally to bring you down a peg or two. Maybe she feels threatened by you in some way. She doesn’t sound like a friend if she is still bringing something up from 40 years ago. Sounds like she needs to get a life.

HideousKinky · 14/10/2024 23:48

You have my sympathy OP. This kind of dynamic is exactly why I avoid certain family members as much as possible.

I also have a very old friend who likes to retell a story about a foolish (but harmless) mistake I made 40 years ago when I was in my 20s - she never seems to notice how uncomfortable it makes me feel and I wish she wouldn't do it, but she does every single time

AngelicKaty · 14/10/2024 23:36

CherryShirt · 14/10/2024 20:30

You know you can get Netflix for like a tenner a month, right?

😂😂😂Brilliant! 👏

AngelicKaty · 14/10/2024 23:34

turbonerd · 14/10/2024 21:05

Have someone pointed out that you are not supposed to enjoy large glasses of Tokaj?

I really don't think the size of the glass is relevant - OP just didn't like the taste. (And yes, several people have already pointed out on this thread that it's a Hungarian dessert/pudding wine which would normally be served in a 100ml glass.)

pikkumyy77 · 14/10/2024 23:08

LAMPS1 · 14/10/2024 14:43

He wanted to feel shamed and humiliated ?
Unlikely in my opinion, but an interesting take it on it all I suppose.
Or do you mean he deserved to feel shamed and humiliated ?

No I think he (obviously) wanted to shame and humiliate his daughter. Which is what she felt. Only on mumsnet are adult males not held to account for shitty behavior—as long as they are parents—

FancyHelper · 14/10/2024 22:37

Not nice behaviour IMO. Everyone has different tastes in wine, it’s rude to keep on and make you feel bad. My SIL bought wine to ours (they don’t drink wine, it was obviously something they’d been given years previously) it was off and tasted disgusting, you could tell by the colour let alone the smell!!! I just quietly poured it down the sink and got a different one. I would never have embarrassed them. Why would anyone do that? A joke is only funny if the person on the receiving end laughs too. Take gin next time!

PrettyPickle · 14/10/2024 21:39

turbonerd · 14/10/2024 21:05

Have someone pointed out that you are not supposed to enjoy large glasses of Tokaj?

Does that matter??? She can enjoy it anyway she likes but that was not the question being raised by the OP.

VTown · 14/10/2024 21:35

AngelicKaty · 14/10/2024 17:07

And the final sentence that you underlined nails it. In other words, this behaviour is entirely typical of OP's father in undermining people's self-esteem and making them the butt of his endless "jokes". And this is reinforced by OP's mother enabling him by asking OP why she's letting it get to her and saying "you know what he's like" (why do people excuse this sort of behaviour?). Unfortunately, people like this get away with it for years because anyone who has the temerity to call them out on their nasty behaviour gets humiliated further by being told they're humourless ("can't you take a joke? / it was only banter"). And then when the target of this abuse shows they're serious about not tolerating it, they get the sulking routine. Sadly, OP's father's reaction is entirely predictable.
I think it's good you didn't pick up on the negativity of OP's posts because I think this probably shows you may have no experience of anyone like this (which is great!) but sadly these people do exist (see @Rainbowstripes post further up for the extreme of this).
I also think it's good that OP came onto MN to let off steam as I doubt she wants to go NC with either parent, and I'm afraid I totally understand her hurt and frustration and I would have reacted exactly the same way as her. Hope you understand. 😊

THIS! Behavior of this sort is a typical male gaslighting power grab, not a misguided and innocent mistake. The fact that he does it over and over again makes it very clear. I'm stunned by the number of people that excuse this behavior and then in the next breath complain about men being dicks. Men have gotten away with this bs for ages, and some women always try to make excuses for it. MEN SHOULD BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD FOR BEHAVIOR THAT WOMEN ARE. I agree that LAMPS1 maybe just hasn't experienced this type of negative behavior before, but it definitely exists and it definitely sounds like what OP's father is doing.

CherryShirt · 14/10/2024 21:23

turbonerd · 14/10/2024 21:05

Have someone pointed out that you are not supposed to enjoy large glasses of Tokaj?

Yes, and it’s still irrelevant to the thread.

I only had a large glass because I wanted to see if it was an acquired taste. It wasn’t (for me).

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phoenixrosehere · 14/10/2024 21:14

sofaofchange · 14/10/2024 19:24

Laughing for days over the same joke repeatedly several times a day?!

Now that, is amusing

I’d laugh out of politeness but internally I’d be rolling my eyes hoping the “joke” would pass.

turbonerd · 14/10/2024 21:05

Have someone pointed out that you are not supposed to enjoy large glasses of Tokaj?