Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

AIBU to find it more challenging to parent because of other parents on days out

384 replies

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 13/10/2024 08:35

Giving examples from yesterday, although there are more.

Parent of 9-year-old DD. Get to park to meet friends and their 9-year-old DCs. DD had a Subway with her DF for lunch which included cookie. Friend brought a bag of donuts for the kids, which she brought out after they had been running about for a bit. I said DD could have one as I didn't want her to be left out while friends were having a treat/it's Saturday (the other kids had also had food before meeting). Less than half an hour later we walk past a shop. The kids all want a treat from the shop and the other Mums say they can have a giant chocolate lollypop or ice cream. By this point I say DD can't have a treat as she's just had two but she can have some fruit or bread if she's hungry. She's upset so I compromise and say she can pick something for Saturday night movie.

Cue massive meltdown from DD as she says it's hard to watch her friends have a treat. It got harder as friends got out one bag then another bag of crisps then more doughnuts for their kids after that. And because I say no, even with calm explanations to DD about different parents different rules, I get the tantrums and the stares from friends like I'm unreasonable. However the tantrum and the feeling of unfairness passes, DD says she isn't actually hungry and plays again happily.

Similarly DD walked into the shop and raised her voice to say "excuse me" while a shopper was browsing where she wanted to go. I whispered in her ear privately that whilst it's good to say excuse me, sometimes you have to wait if people are browsing and say it a bit later and quieter if you need to. In my view she's 9, so is old enough to learn social cues. Cue overreaction from another parent I don't know (of toddlers) of "that's OK, well done for saying excuse me" to cancel out my parenting approach and makes me look mean.

All my friends relent with treats and behaviour if the kids push for it. One of them called their Mum and "evil witch" when she didn't get her snack straight away because her Mum was eating, to which she giggled and said "oh she doesn't actually mean it". My DD would be on final warnings to go home with that. One of the 9 YO pulled a slate tile off a mini house. Her mum told him to put it back but because it isn't enforced he doesn't do anything. I experience this in most parenting circles. Maybe I am a strict hag? Am I outdated?? Although I'm the youngest parent in the group by six years!! What can I say better in those moments to DD?

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Laur81 · 20/10/2024 22:01

You seem very defensive for someone asking people for advice. You have afew options here.

  1. Dont go if it bothers you that much
  2. Use the day as a treat day and just enjoy it for what it is, don’t stress it afew extra treats here and there never hurt anyone
  3. Explain to your child your rules before you get there
We all choose to parent our children our own way, these parents are not going to change their ways because you don’t approve so it’s on you and only you to decide what works for you and your child. Seems like your child is well mannered and assertive to say “excuse me” absolutely nothing wrong with that.
angela1952 · 16/10/2024 11:13

My GD is nine and very slim. Her mother lets her eat virtually anything that she fancies, including sweets, though not snacks too close to meals. Personally I wouldn't do this and they know that at my house they don't get any sweets though they do get snacks when they get home from school, maybe a crumpet or some kind of cake.
My own DC didn't eat snacks like this, normally just toast or cereal to tide them over until supper. Both GC are slim, active and healthy with no dental problems so I don't see that it is doing them any harm. I don't criticize other parents' treatment of their children.

Crazyeight · 15/10/2024 10:22

SophiaJ8 · 14/10/2024 20:44

One of my DC has allergies, but I’d never expect others to refrain from eating foods they are allergic to. That’s just not how the world works.

No I don't ask them to. But sometimes it would nice if people were a bit more thoughtful.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 15/10/2024 09:48

OP I thought you sounded like a bit of a twat in the original aibu but having read your responses I love how you have learned from this experience. I truly can feel your growth and I commend you for that.

I wasn’t allowed lots of ‘sugary treats’ as a child. I have a huge sweet tooth now but in my teens/twenties I was more a savoury snack lover than a sugar lover.

I would like you to consider that your DD could be neurodiverse. The meltdown and give me things/pulling on your bag at 9… I mean I’m not expert but I think you should get it checked out. There’s no harm in doing so. You can do a lot online, self assessment things. Or even just looking into adhd/autism basic traits; you never know you might identify other behaviours she does. I was diagnosed with adhd in July this year at 46. I wish I could have done something about it when I was younger.

Good luck. Parenting is hard.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 15/10/2024 09:22

GretchenWienersHair · 13/10/2024 08:46

Other people’s children are not your responsibility. You do you and let them do them.

This!
OP you’re letting other peoples parenting bother you too much

Zocola · 14/10/2024 21:26

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 13/10/2024 09:34

No I turned to junk food because of other reasons. I just referenced the addiction because it made me overweight and unhealthy for a long period and I'm keen to pass on better life lessons to my DD.

OP a couple of the things that you have mentioned during your childhood ie negativity, turning to junk food( I'm guessing for comfort) and being overweight may be something you need to look at,as it may be rhat you're projecting your insecurities onto your daughter (just a thought ok).

SophiaJ8 · 14/10/2024 20:44

Crazyeight · 14/10/2024 19:37

Try having DC with allergies and watch other parents buy their DC huge piles of food that my DC can't have and let their DC scoff it down right in front of them. It's not really fair but they just have to get on with it.

One of my DC has allergies, but I’d never expect others to refrain from eating foods they are allergic to. That’s just not how the world works.

Laura95167 · 14/10/2024 20:43

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 13/10/2024 08:44

So we're just OK then with a society where people fill their kids with crap and the ones that don't or parent are the unreasonable ones.

OK.

It sounds like you're asking for opinions but getting aggressive with ones that differ from yours.

It maybe that these other parents style is healthy snacks 6 days a week and when they're all out with friends it's a cheat day. It maybe that they are OK with their kids constantly eating sugar. They are parenting, just differently to you. They don't have to amend their approachs to make your parenting choices easier.

How you parent your DD isn't unreasonable, but it doesn't mean it's a. Perfect or b. Should be held as some universal standard. And as many have asked, it's reasonable to query if your values differ so wildly to these parents why don't you cease socialising with them.

If you wish to keep seeing them you need to accept this is how they parent and they're entitled to. You either need to continue managing her expectations, or change your approach, or accept when you're all together you may need to adjust your daughters treat intake the rest of the week to balance out your concerns. But you can't change others and it's unreasonable to expect to

Crazyeight · 14/10/2024 19:37

Try having DC with allergies and watch other parents buy their DC huge piles of food that my DC can't have and let their DC scoff it down right in front of them. It's not really fair but they just have to get on with it.

HauntedPencil · 14/10/2024 19:31

You can't expect everyone in the world to follow your own rules.

axolotlfloof · 14/10/2024 18:37

The whole concept of treats is part of our childhood obesity problem. Don't buy unhealthy food. Give your kids healthy options and don't make a fuss either way about junk food.
1 Saturday doesn't matter in the scheme of things, but you would have a better day hanging put with different families.

Vynalbob · 14/10/2024 18:12

You are right....in my opinion but

You cannot influence others it just won't work.

You control yourself and parent your DC the way you want. You either have to ignore the non parenting parents or limit your time with them....they most likely won't change (then regret it years down the line).
YANBU.

BonniesSlave · 14/10/2024 18:07

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 13/10/2024 08:44

So we're just OK then with a society where people fill their kids with crap and the ones that don't or parent are the unreasonable ones.

OK.

Im not sure why you asked for opinions when all youve done is shut down people who call you judgy 😂

Group trips out mean you either have an argument or you relent because its a one off. If you want 💯 control over your child and your day out then you can always go alone

jeez lighten up ffs

Yalta · 14/10/2024 15:21

HorsePeopleAreStablePeople · 13/10/2024 17:01

So with this approach are you going to start slowly introducing alcohol at 13 so they can learn to drink responsibly before they turn 18? When they can then do what they want and pay for it themselves with their weekend job so you can't stop them? Or do you understand that some substances and things are harmful to developing bodies and should be kept away from them until they are old enough to handle them?

Smart phones are harmful to children's development and social media is dangerous to developing teens. They should be kept away from it until they are old enough to learn to use them safely.

I think it's really poor parenting when you see 14 year old girls on social media who then get depressed because they can't live up to all the fake imagery they see on there and get themselves into risky situations by talking to strangers because they aren't old enough to properly understand the dangers even if it is explained to them.

Alcohol is something that can be avoided quite easily whilst eating is something you can’t really not partake in.

Making the right food choices, how little or how much you eat and noticing the affect certain foods have on your body is something that only you as an individual can learn and decide on by trying certain foods and knowing how they make you feel and how they affect your body.
This should start from a very young age and being introduced to a wide range of fruits and vegetables to start with and treating everything as normal everyday food. Even those things that other people consider as treats
As a parent making sure your child has enough vitamins and minerals through their food, whether that be in the shape of a cookie, sandwich and a tofu and roast veg stirfry
Initially it all has to be planned out and thought about before you leave the house.

If you know you are going to be with other parents who are going to hand out stuff you don’t really want your child to have and the other children think they are treats then you have to come up with a similar healthier “treats” for everyone to eat first.
Fill dc up with your “healthy” version of cookies, fruit and have sandwiches on hand. Then when they get round to the other mums doughnuts they might be too full to eat a whole one.

It’s about being realistic and planning ahead

It takes a bit of thought and organisation at first but eventually it becomes quick and easy to pack stuff.

Cel77 · 14/10/2024 14:43

No comments on the original question but these kids have been given crazy amounts of really unhealthy food! It's probably not just a one off either. How can parents justify jeopardising their children's future health like this? One snack is enough surely?

zeitweilig · 14/10/2024 13:19

Freeyourminds · 13/10/2024 20:03

I just feel, if l’m going to comment, it’s only going to be if l agree with the original post.But yes, l’ve had enough of it now, it’s just strange the other person hasn’t commented any further, now you’ve got involved, which is just adding to it.
I stand by what l’ve said, l’m now leaving the thread.

🫣

30percent · 13/10/2024 20:10

OhNoSuger · 13/10/2024 11:39

@Sayithowiseeit
You do seem quite strict, an authoritarian type of parenting style which long term isn't great but it seems to be coming from a good place

Why do you think that? Her daughter had two treats already so it's hardly authoritarian to not let her have more. Likewise pointing out that the daughter was a bit bossy sounding to the guy shopping is perfectly reasonable. Would you have just given in and let your child have what they wanted. I don't think the OP is strict.

I think some people just like to bash ops for the sake of it. There's nothing unreasonable about telling your young daughter to be polite to elderly people shopping, or not wanting your child to eat a constant stream of chocs and sweeties but feeling uneasy because all the friends are doing it and you don't want her being the odd one out.
Honestly there's nothing unreasonable about feeling that way I don't get the op bashing that goes on on this site.

Freeyourminds · 13/10/2024 20:03

JayJayEl · 13/10/2024 19:41

I've (ashamedly) just wasted 20 minutes of my evening going through what was said, and I'm on your side with the content. But the pair of you are just banging on and on, going round and round about nothing in particular - certainly nothing to do with the thread!

And now I've stupidly gone and stuck my nose in and become part of the problem! 😂 Do as I say and not as I do. 😉

I just feel, if l’m going to comment, it’s only going to be if l agree with the original post.But yes, l’ve had enough of it now, it’s just strange the other person hasn’t commented any further, now you’ve got involved, which is just adding to it.
I stand by what l’ve said, l’m now leaving the thread.

30percent · 13/10/2024 19:57

I've definitely had similar experiences op days out with DC and their friends and their parents. A regular day and the other parents supply their child + friends with a constant supply of chocolate and sweeties and you look like an ass trying to moderate your child's food.
I'm sure someone will be along to tell you you should mind your own business and not be afraid to make your daughter the odd one out. But it's not that simple and I 100% understand you.

JayJayEl · 13/10/2024 19:41

Freeyourminds · 13/10/2024 19:24

If you’re going to comment might be useful, if you’d read what was said prior.You’re not really helping helping though are you, l just said l want to move on, with this thread, the quoting has just been ridiculous.
I don’t get why, you now feel the need to chime in, when you have no idea what’s been said.It’s done, let’s just move on.

I've (ashamedly) just wasted 20 minutes of my evening going through what was said, and I'm on your side with the content. But the pair of you are just banging on and on, going round and round about nothing in particular - certainly nothing to do with the thread!

And now I've stupidly gone and stuck my nose in and become part of the problem! 😂 Do as I say and not as I do. 😉

Freeyourminds · 13/10/2024 19:24

JayJayEl · 13/10/2024 19:09

By replying and further trying to argue your point you absolutely are playing this "game". I've no idea what either of you said at the beginning but come on - you're fully grown adults!

If you’re going to comment might be useful, if you’d read what was said prior.You’re not really helping helping though are you, l just said l want to move on, with this thread, the quoting has just been ridiculous.
I don’t get why, you now feel the need to chime in, when you have no idea what’s been said.It’s done, let’s just move on.

JayJayEl · 13/10/2024 19:09

Freeyourminds · 13/10/2024 18:55

I’ve just said l’m not playing whatever game this is.It’s quite interesting though, only a couple of other posters have called out this person, who has just been relentless throughout the thread, going after posters, by always quoting, what’s been said, because they have a difference of opinion or rather is trying to derail the thread
Leave me out of the head banging🙄

By replying and further trying to argue your point you absolutely are playing this "game". I've no idea what either of you said at the beginning but come on - you're fully grown adults!

Longma · 13/10/2024 19:07

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines. at the request of it's author.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 13/10/2024 19:03

Stealth brag post is not very stealthy.
Must try harder.

user1473878824 · 13/10/2024 18:59

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 13/10/2024 08:44

So we're just OK then with a society where people fill their kids with crap and the ones that don't or parent are the unreasonable ones.

OK.

Christ…. Well I guess everyone who disagrees with you is wrong so I’m not sure why you asked.

Swipe left for the next trending thread