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midnightmeows · 12/10/2024 20:00

I'm on the fence about woo things, however I do like reading stories.

There are lots of stories about time slip experiences, with the most well known being Bold Street, Liverpool. The stories I find interesting are when more than one person (from the 'present' time) sees the 'past' at the same time. In that case it can't be a hallucination - they're either both colluding liars or they really did see 'something'.

Has anyone had any such experiences? I suppose if such a thing exists, we could 'slip' an hour or a day into the past and not even realise.

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SharpLily · 13/10/2024 00:03

MasterBeth · 12/10/2024 20:21

We have no good evidence they exist.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Barbiepink1 · 13/10/2024 00:02

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:57

Zero good evidence, sure. But how many people throughout histroey have claimed to experience some sort of encounter with God? I'd dare say millions or hundreds of millions. Claims of experiences of time travel on the other hand are extremely rare. So evidence for a deity already hugely outweighs evidence of time slips, simply based on the number of accounts.

I don't accept the teleological argument, cosmological argument or various other similar arguments as good evidence for God, but there's a degree of logic to them.

You could also, I suppose, out forward evidence of the historical Jesus as evidence of God's existence.

Again, I'm not remotely persuaded by any of these, but I think poo-pooing the existence of God while believing in time slips (which have even less evidence) is unreasonable.

just because people believe in the sky fairy, they also used to belive the earth was the centre of the universe back in the day so number of people believing does not make it any more true

DalRiata · 12/10/2024 23:59

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:22

I really do feel sorry for people who refuse to believe some things, and who poo-poo everything. Some even doubt science fact that is spoken by physicists and scientists. No open-mindedness at all. Bit sad really. I'd hate to live like that.
I don't think anything is impossible but believe that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and the strongest evidence for the Bold Street time slips appears to be a lady called Julie recently claiming to be the subject of one of the stories that has been doing the rounds on the internet for a couple of decades. We do not so much as have the full name of anyone else from the various stories, nor a first-hand account from any of them.

It looks like Julie claims to have experienced several time slips. I am willing to accept that it is possible that she is genuinely experiencing a real phenomenon, however, I think that either (1) she is making it up, or (2) she believes the stories to be true but is experiencing hallucinations or similar are far more likely explanations. We know that people frequently makes things up and we know that it is quite common for people experience hallucinations otherwise mistaken.

I will not rule out the possibility of time slips or apparent time-slips but I'm very happy to refuse to believe in fantastic claims that have extremely scant evidence.

A bit of a detour but, as many will know, Donald Trump recently claimed in. Presidential debate that Haitan immigrants in Springfield, Ohio are eating people's pet cats and dogs. This has led to various threats of violence.

We know that the origin of this story was a Facebook post, where a woman claimed she had heard it from a neighbor, who heard it from her daughters' friend, whose cat was eaten. The neighbor has since clarified that she did not hear it from her daughter’s friend and that it was not her cat, but that it was just a rumor she had heard from an acquaintance and she does not believe it to be true. Masses of journalists have tried to uncover a source for the story but so far, the best evidence is that a woman heard a rumor, which she does not believe, from an acquaintance.

Nonetheless, 52% of likely Trump voters believe the claim to be true - which would be in the region of 40 million people.

I don't think it's healthy to have quite so little skepticism and such an absence of skepticism is both very common and potentially very harmful.

I assumed that they were joining it up with the fact that people in China have genuinely eaten dogs historically and also there have been many, many cases in the UK of immigrants stealing ducks, swans etc off the river to cook. Especially Chinese restaurants (genuinely happened in my small town when I was a teen) and no doubt similar has happened in the US. So its not a huge stretch to believe Trump's claims from there. Usually rumours need some fertile ground with a bit of half-truth to get going.

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:57

Clotheshanger · 12/10/2024 23:51

There is absolutely zero evidence for the existence of any kind of deity.

Zero good evidence, sure. But how many people throughout histroey have claimed to experience some sort of encounter with God? I'd dare say millions or hundreds of millions. Claims of experiences of time travel on the other hand are extremely rare. So evidence for a deity already hugely outweighs evidence of time slips, simply based on the number of accounts.

I don't accept the teleological argument, cosmological argument or various other similar arguments as good evidence for God, but there's a degree of logic to them.

You could also, I suppose, out forward evidence of the historical Jesus as evidence of God's existence.

Again, I'm not remotely persuaded by any of these, but I think poo-pooing the existence of God while believing in time slips (which have even less evidence) is unreasonable.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:55

DalRiata · 12/10/2024 23:53

I wouldn't say I believe in time slips but I wouldnt stake my life on them not being real, just think its unlikely.
I do absolutely agree with this statement though. Humans are so arrogant, always thinking we have reached a stage of knowing almost everything. We know so little.

Humans are so arrogant, always thinking we have reached a stage of knowing almost everything. We know so little.

Amen to that! So arrogant to assume because THEY don't believe something/have never seen it or experienced it, that it can't possibly exist! 🙄

And on that note, my bed beckons!

Goodnight all!

DalRiata · 12/10/2024 23:53

Moujojojo · 12/10/2024 20:10

Yes.

I don't think we understand anywhere near as much about time and the universe as we like to think we do.

I wouldn't say I believe in time slips but I wouldnt stake my life on them not being real, just think its unlikely.
I do absolutely agree with this statement though. Humans are so arrogant, always thinking we have reached a stage of knowing almost everything. We know so little.

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 23:53

Edingril · 12/10/2024 23:49

Why would time slip for some people and not others?

cracks in the fabric of reality

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 23:52

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:49

I don't believe in god (at all) but there's a lot more (by many, many magnitudes) evidence for God's existence than there is for time-slips being real.

nope, only various stories written by humans, the same stories as these timeslips ?

Clotheshanger · 12/10/2024 23:51

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:49

I don't believe in god (at all) but there's a lot more (by many, many magnitudes) evidence for God's existence than there is for time-slips being real.

There is absolutely zero evidence for the existence of any kind of deity.

Edingril · 12/10/2024 23:49

Why would time slip for some people and not others?

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:49

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 23:35

plus if people can believe in god but then dismiss time slips its like omg ???

I don't believe in god (at all) but there's a lot more (by many, many magnitudes) evidence for God's existence than there is for time-slips being real.

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:47

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:35

@3hrMax

I will not rule out the possibility of time slips or apparent time-slips but I'm very happy to refuse to believe in fantastic claims that have extremely scant evidence.

The thing is, in the vast majority of cases, people won't actually HAVE any 'evidence' of time slips.

Just like I can't prove that my husband and I saw an identical car to our green Mazda MX, and two people who looked like us were driving it (in the opposite direction to us!) But it still happened.

Most people will have no way to prove their experience of 'time slips.' You choose to believe them - or not. That's up to you. Maybe it was a hallucination, or maybe they did drop back in time (or forwards) for a few seconds (or minutes.)

No-one knows.

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Out of interest, do you believe that immigrants are eating people's cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio, and why do you believe (or disbelieve) it?

Incidentally, I'm very happy to believe your story about seeing an identical model/colour car to yours, which was occupied by people who looked very similar to you and your DH. It does not strike my as particularly fantastical (though I do wonder if you'd still think those people looked exactly like you and your DH if you got a longer look at them, rather than what I assume to be a very quick glance - it generally not being easy to closley examine the appearanc of the occupants of a vehicle that's passing you in the opposite direction on a dual carriageway).

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:38

Yep!

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 23:35

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:29

Yeah this. I feel embarrassed for the haters and beraters on here. Sooooooo angry and defensive - and insistent that what we are talking about is a load of 'bollocks' and 'bullshit,' and we are deluded, blah blah blah... And they don't believe it coz 'they're not batshit crazy' etc etc.

Why so angry about what others believe? And why so rude and aggressive and snarky?

And, after all, you cannot categorically state that it's all bollocks, because you don't know. Stop being so bloody rude and arrogant. You're embarrassing yourselves!

!

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plus if people can believe in god but then dismiss time slips its like omg ???

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:35

@3hrMax

I will not rule out the possibility of time slips or apparent time-slips but I'm very happy to refuse to believe in fantastic claims that have extremely scant evidence.

The thing is, in the vast majority of cases, people won't actually HAVE any 'evidence' of time slips.

Just like I can't prove that my husband and I saw an identical car to our green Mazda MX, and two people who looked like us were driving it (in the opposite direction to us!) But it still happened.

Most people will have no way to prove their experience of 'time slips.' You choose to believe them - or not. That's up to you. Maybe it was a hallucination, or maybe they did drop back in time (or forwards) for a few seconds (or minutes.)

No-one knows.

.

SabreIsMyFave · 12/10/2024 23:29

Offtheroof · 12/10/2024 22:34

I always find it interesting why some non believers get so defensive about these kinds of subjects. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. Why does it make you feel threatened? Not trying to be mean, just a genuine question. If it was all just "bollocks", why would it bother you enough to feel the need to make a snarky comment? Might be something to have a look at.

Yeah this. I feel embarrassed for the haters and beraters on here. Sooooooo angry and defensive - and insistent that what we are talking about is a load of 'bollocks' and 'bullshit,' and we are deluded, blah blah blah... And they don't believe it coz 'they're not batshit crazy' etc etc.

Why so angry about what others believe? And why so rude and aggressive and snarky?

And, after all, you cannot categorically state that it's all bollocks, because you don't know. Stop being so bloody rude and arrogant. You're embarrassing yourselves!

!

3hrMax · 12/10/2024 23:22

I really do feel sorry for people who refuse to believe some things, and who poo-poo everything. Some even doubt science fact that is spoken by physicists and scientists. No open-mindedness at all. Bit sad really. I'd hate to live like that.
I don't think anything is impossible but believe that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and the strongest evidence for the Bold Street time slips appears to be a lady called Julie recently claiming to be the subject of one of the stories that has been doing the rounds on the internet for a couple of decades. We do not so much as have the full name of anyone else from the various stories, nor a first-hand account from any of them.

It looks like Julie claims to have experienced several time slips. I am willing to accept that it is possible that she is genuinely experiencing a real phenomenon, however, I think that either (1) she is making it up, or (2) she believes the stories to be true but is experiencing hallucinations or similar are far more likely explanations. We know that people frequently makes things up and we know that it is quite common for people experience hallucinations otherwise mistaken.

I will not rule out the possibility of time slips or apparent time-slips but I'm very happy to refuse to believe in fantastic claims that have extremely scant evidence.

A bit of a detour but, as many will know, Donald Trump recently claimed in. Presidential debate that Haitan immigrants in Springfield, Ohio are eating people's pet cats and dogs. This has led to various threats of violence.

We know that the origin of this story was a Facebook post, where a woman claimed she had heard it from a neighbor, who heard it from her daughters' friend, whose cat was eaten. The neighbor has since clarified that she did not hear it from her daughter’s friend and that it was not her cat, but that it was just a rumor she had heard from an acquaintance and she does not believe it to be true. Masses of journalists have tried to uncover a source for the story but so far, the best evidence is that a woman heard a rumor, which she does not believe, from an acquaintance.

Nonetheless, 52% of likely Trump voters believe the claim to be true - which would be in the region of 40 million people.

I don't think it's healthy to have quite so little skepticism and such an absence of skepticism is both very common and potentially very harmful.

BeardofHagrid · 12/10/2024 23:19

I used to experience this weird thing when I was really unwell with my period in the middle of the night and couldn’t sleep. I would look at the clock, close my eyes and try to sleep and it felt like hours were passing. Turn to look at the clock again and three minutes had passed. It was a horrible sensation!

Sethera · 12/10/2024 23:14

I've never experienced one but I enjoy reading about them. I have an open mind as to whether they are genuine events or have other explanations. Deja vu has a scientific explanation; there might be a reason behind time-slips that science hasn't discovered yet; it could even be a more interesting reason than time travel.

Pusheen467 · 12/10/2024 23:12

I his thread is great but my brain hurts.

RubyRooRed · 12/10/2024 22:56

No
What a load of rubbish

WyrdyGrob · 12/10/2024 22:55

I remember that story about time travellers and the crucifixion. I’m sure it was in one of the old Nebula Award anthologies or something.

the travelers had had memories implanted so they could speak Aramaic and other pre-trip adaptations like their skin toughened so one of them could walk barefoot?

HorsesDuvets · 12/10/2024 22:54

No. Because I'm not absolutely batshit crazy.

Waboofoo · 12/10/2024 22:51

It is possible that I experienced an audio timeslip when staying at old fisherman’s cottage in a village by the sea . My family were filming a video tour in total silence. There was no one else around.

When we returned home an old man’s voice was talking over the video in a strong regional accent- the words were incomprehensible to our modern ears. It sounded like olde language and he was numbling. We could make out odd words. We all listened to it and couldn’t explain it. Really freaky!

ProvincialLady2024 · 12/10/2024 22:40

I'm open minded.

I'd love to a time slip experience of my house in its first two decades (1908-1928).