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midnightmeows · 12/10/2024 20:00

I'm on the fence about woo things, however I do like reading stories.

There are lots of stories about time slip experiences, with the most well known being Bold Street, Liverpool. The stories I find interesting are when more than one person (from the 'present' time) sees the 'past' at the same time. In that case it can't be a hallucination - they're either both colluding liars or they really did see 'something'.

Has anyone had any such experiences? I suppose if such a thing exists, we could 'slip' an hour or a day into the past and not even realise.

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Barbiepink1 · 13/10/2024 00:44

StellaZine · 13/10/2024 00:26

Then why aren’t there news reports from the 50s or early twentieth century of an individual wearing strange clothing suddenly appearing there then disappearing? If they could see people, why couldn’t the people also see them?

maybe they presumed it was their mind, or maybe people didn't believe them etc various factors

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:43

Sethera · 13/10/2024 00:29

Almost certainly, but when I watched it for the first time I saw it as a phone, and then did a double-take😃

Agreed!

I have an old set of cartoons from ''Punch''- in one, it shows '' 100 years in The Future'' - it is an engraving of a man and a woman sitting next to each other under a tree both communicating via a machine rather than talking.

{I think circa 1899}

If only that illustrator could see now what we have!

Yesterday my friend visited, he was so tired, he said ''beam me up, Scotty'' before leaving for his home 45 mins away.

I said ''Maybe in 100 years we can be moved within seconds from place to place''

Now that would be good!

{Bur probably unlikely}

raspberryberet7 · 13/10/2024 00:43

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 12/10/2024 20:12

Didn't you ask the same question tomorrow?

😘😘😘👏👏👏👏👏

Coruscations · 13/10/2024 00:40

I don't believe in timeslips. If they were possible, we would regularly see people from different time period, past and future turning up, and there has never been any verified evidence of either.

Barbiepink1 · 13/10/2024 00:40

rooshoe · 13/10/2024 00:12

Do you know what? I'm a complete non believer in anything even vaguely woo.
I'm an atheist. Don't believe there's stuff we don't know. Think all the alternative healing crystals reiki stuff is shyte. As is home-fucking-opathy.

But....

I have a mega brainy friend. Cambridge graduate. Did astrophysics when Stephen Hawking still knocked around doing a few lectures.

And one day she starts talking to me about the Bold Street time slips. (I'm from Liverpool.)

Says she's really interested I time slips and looks into them for fun. Says they could be possible if... [something about Einstein and calculations about space and time and elements of physics we don't know yet.... not sure it was after wine and I'm not a brainbox]

But of all the people to endorse a woo thing I never expected her! She seemed deadly serious there is clever science that says it's theoretically possible.

So actually, I'm a bit 'don't know' about this.

elements of Einstein's theories, particularly his Theory of General Relativity, provide a framework that could conceptually explain phenomena like time slips, though not directly as it's typically imagined in popular culture.

Here’s how Einstein's work relates to the concept:

Einstein's Theory of General Relativity and Spacetime

Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity revolutionized our understanding of space and time by merging them into a single entity called spacetime. This theory explains that:

  • Gravity isn’t a force pulling objects, but rather a curvature in spacetime caused by the mass of an object.
  • Massive objects like planets, stars, and black holes cause spacetime to bend or warp around them.

This warping affects not only space but also time, meaning that time can pass differently depending on the strength of gravitational fields—a phenomenon known as gravitational time dilation. For example, time moves slower near a massive object (like a black hole) than it does further away.
Time Dilation and Time Slips

Time dilation, as predicted by Einstein’s theory, demonstrates that time isn’t constant. Under certain extreme conditions (such as near the speed of light or in a strong gravitational field), time can slow down or speed up. Theoretically, this could open the door to interpretations that align with the concept of "time slips"—moments where individuals experience time differently from the normal flow, or perceive glimpses of past or future events.

However, these effects have only been observed in specific scientific contexts, like clocks in satellites orbiting Earth running slightly faster than those on the ground (due to weaker gravity at higher altitudes). While fascinating, these are small-scale examples, and they don't account for dramatic shifts like experiencing historical events firsthand.

Wormholes and Time Travel Possibilities

Einstein's equations also allow for theoretical constructs like wormholes—shortcuts through spacetime that could potentially connect distant regions of space and time. If such wormholes exist and could be traversed, they might enable forms of time travel. However, the practical existence of wormholes is purely theoretical, and their stability or accessibility remains an unsolved issue in physics.

Unknown Elements of Physics

There are still unknown aspects of physics that could play a role in phenomena we don't yet fully comprehend. Quantum mechanics, for instance, deals with the fundamental behaviour of particles at the smallest scales and hints at possibilities like parallel universes, entanglement, and the non-linear behaviour of time. If these principles could somehow be integrated with general relativity, it might provide a more complete understanding of time’s nature and possibly reveal new pathways for phenomena like time slips.

Conclusion

Einstein's theories offer a scientific basis for how time might behave differently under extreme conditions, such as near massive gravitational fields or at high velocities. While they don't directly explain "time slips" as popularly imagined (suddenly experiencing a different era), they do open up interesting possibilities for time behaving in unexpected ways, particularly when combined with quantum mechanics or other future discoveries. There's much we still don't understand about the deeper workings of time, space, and reality, leaving room for speculation about these phenomena.

3hrMax · 13/10/2024 00:39

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:35

It was a ground mist- where the lower part of the horse's legs were obscured , not completely misty.

I wish I'd been with her to have witnessed it.

It was otherwise quite bright.

She walks early before work.

A moment ago you said it happened at dawn? I.e., before sunrise?

Edit to clarify - I mean to say that I think anything before sunrise would qualify as low-light.

mm81736 · 13/10/2024 00:39

No

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:35

3hrMax · 13/10/2024 00:30

But people's eyes play tricks on them, even more so in cases of poor visibility (you describe misty conditions). This is a really common and explainable phenomenon that I dare say most people have experienced on multiple occasions.

I have a relative who regularly sees people from the Victorian era, out and about. Their eyesight has significantly deteriorated with age and, due to their diminished ability to see things and their brain attempting to adjust to that, they experience visual hallucinations. It's pretty much the same reason people "see things" in other circumstances where their vision is impaired for whatever reason.

It was a ground mist- where the lower part of the horse's legs were obscured , not completely misty.

I wish I'd been with her to have witnessed it.

It was otherwise quite bright.

She walks early before work.

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:32

sarahzbaker · 13/10/2024 00:25

Your brain can do funny things
And I do not believe in those shows on TV that purport to suggest there are supernatural presences. TV Bait

Those have been proven to be a load of nonsense.
Derren Brown has done a lot of work to show how fake 'psychics' work.

Cold readings.

Derek Akorah and another medium were shown to have researched stuff for these shows.

One person whose stories are interesting {to me} is Danny Robbins with his ''Uncanny'' podcasts.

3hrMax · 13/10/2024 00:30

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:20

She's the most ''stable'' {no pun intended} person ever with a responsible job.

She's not prone to flights of fancy or seeing things that aren't there.

It's not a normal thing to see - she thought ''that's strange, I've not seen anyone schooling a horse here before.

But people's eyes play tricks on them, even more so in cases of poor visibility (you describe misty conditions). This is a really common and explainable phenomenon that I dare say most people have experienced on multiple occasions.

I have a relative who regularly sees people from the Victorian era, out and about. Their eyesight has significantly deteriorated with age and, due to their diminished ability to see things and their brain attempting to adjust to that, they experience visual hallucinations. It's pretty much the same reason people "see things" in other circumstances where their vision is impaired for whatever reason.

Sethera · 13/10/2024 00:29

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:23

Probably a Casio calculator.

Almost certainly, but when I watched it for the first time I saw it as a phone, and then did a double-take😃

SidhuVicious · 13/10/2024 00:27

There are also reported incidents of people turning water into wine tbf.

SidhuVicious · 13/10/2024 00:27

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:20

She's the most ''stable'' {no pun intended} person ever with a responsible job.

She's not prone to flights of fancy or seeing things that aren't there.

It's not a normal thing to see - she thought ''that's strange, I've not seen anyone schooling a horse here before.

Yes, but statistically I think a hallucination is more likely than a time travel event, even if still relatively unlikely.

StellaZine · 13/10/2024 00:26

Barbiepink1 · 12/10/2024 20:49

Reported Incidents on Bold Street

Case Studies

Several well-known accounts of time slips have been reported on Bold Street, with the following being among the most frequently cited:

The 1996 Experience of Frank and Carol
In 1996, an off-duty police officer named Frank, accompanied by his wife Carol, reportedly experienced a time slip while walking along Bold Street. Frank noticed that the street appeared markedly different, with old-fashioned cars, shop fronts, and people dressed in 1950s attire. In particular, he recalled a store called "Cripps," a retailer that had ceased to exist in the present but was known to have been operational decades earlier. The experience lasted for several minutes, leaving both Frank and Carol shaken.

The 2006 Incident
Another incident involved a young man who entered a bookshop on Bold Street, only to find himself in a setting from the early 20th century. He described seeing people in Edwardian dress and noticed that the layout of the shop differed significantly from its modern configuration. When he tried to engage with his surroundings, the experience abruptly ended, returning him to the present day.

Then why aren’t there news reports from the 50s or early twentieth century of an individual wearing strange clothing suddenly appearing there then disappearing? If they could see people, why couldn’t the people also see them?

CurlewKate · 13/10/2024 00:25

No

sarahzbaker · 13/10/2024 00:25

Your brain can do funny things
And I do not believe in those shows on TV that purport to suggest there are supernatural presences. TV Bait

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:24

Sethera · 13/10/2024 00:22

(Lighthearted!) Look at this typical commuter tapping away on his smartphone on the early morning train to London. But, it's footage of the then-new Advanced Passenger Train, shot in 1982 ...

Calculator 1982

To ask if you believe in time slips?
oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:23

Sethera · 13/10/2024 00:22

(Lighthearted!) Look at this typical commuter tapping away on his smartphone on the early morning train to London. But, it's footage of the then-new Advanced Passenger Train, shot in 1982 ...

Probably a Casio calculator.

Sethera · 13/10/2024 00:22

(Lighthearted!) Look at this typical commuter tapping away on his smartphone on the early morning train to London. But, it's footage of the then-new Advanced Passenger Train, shot in 1982 ...

To ask if you believe in time slips?
oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:20

SidhuVicious · 13/10/2024 00:12

Most likely a hallucination.

She's the most ''stable'' {no pun intended} person ever with a responsible job.

She's not prone to flights of fancy or seeing things that aren't there.

It's not a normal thing to see - she thought ''that's strange, I've not seen anyone schooling a horse here before.

3hrMax · 13/10/2024 00:15

Barbiepink1 · 13/10/2024 00:02

just because people believe in the sky fairy, they also used to belive the earth was the centre of the universe back in the day so number of people believing does not make it any more true

Like it or not, and million people claiming to have experienced something extraordinary is more evidence that one person having claimed to experience something extraordinary.

It is very odd that you are completely dismissing one fantastical claim based on the paucity of evidence but seem quite willing to entertain one with far less evidence.

rooshoe · 13/10/2024 00:12

Do you know what? I'm a complete non believer in anything even vaguely woo.
I'm an atheist. Don't believe there's stuff we don't know. Think all the alternative healing crystals reiki stuff is shyte. As is home-fucking-opathy.

But....

I have a mega brainy friend. Cambridge graduate. Did astrophysics when Stephen Hawking still knocked around doing a few lectures.

And one day she starts talking to me about the Bold Street time slips. (I'm from Liverpool.)

Says she's really interested I time slips and looks into them for fun. Says they could be possible if... [something about Einstein and calculations about space and time and elements of physics we don't know yet.... not sure it was after wine and I'm not a brainbox]

But of all the people to endorse a woo thing I never expected her! She seemed deadly serious there is clever science that says it's theoretically possible.

So actually, I'm a bit 'don't know' about this.

SidhuVicious · 13/10/2024 00:12

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:11

A very sensible friend was walking her dog in the misty dawn and saw a man schooling his horse in a circle - except the man was dressed in old fashioned riding gear -she looked again, and he and the horse had disappeared completely.

No where they could have gone to and the field showed no hoof marks.

Most likely a hallucination.

oakleaffy · 13/10/2024 00:11

A very sensible friend was walking her dog in the misty dawn and saw a man schooling his horse in a circle - except the man was dressed in old fashioned riding gear -she looked again, and he and the horse had disappeared completely.

No where they could have gone to and the field showed no hoof marks.

SidhuVicious · 13/10/2024 00:09

My issue with time slips is that it often presupposes that the future is set in stone. I believe that we have free will and that whether I eat an apple or not depends on whether I decide to eat it.

I'm never totally convinced when people say they believe in fate, because they still usually try and make rational decisions, which would be pointless if everything was already set. May as well drink drive, smoke, cross the road without looking, etc, if everything is already fixed and your actions have no influence.