To ask if you believe in time slips?

Lol maybe he was but she is adamant he was telling the truth and only ever mentioned some of his work towards the end of his life, and there are articles of these sleep experiments being done by the CIA. Who really knows

It is far more arrogant to believe that their personal perception of something which is at best highly unlikely and at worst impossible actually happened and wasn't some kind of hallucination or brain activity. The more we know about our brain, the more we understand that the way it can experience reality can be far from reality.

Time slips, out of body experiences, near death experiences etc can all be much better explained by the way our brain perceives reality than by having to change everything we do know about biology and physics.

Your body and brain die but our awarensss doesn’t, or something like that.

Your half-remembered ramblings that your friend's late father told her that he wasn't allowed to but everyone knows, apparently, are exactly what we mean when we say there is no good evidence for any of this stuff. Or something like that.

Something I've never seen explained about out-of-body experiences: your "soul" or whatever detaches from your physical body, so you can look down and observe yourself sleeping. Some have reported flying around hospitals, describing what they saw in other rooms. A few say they travelled far outside the place where they were sleeping and have described the things they saw.

So how are they seeing these things? Their eyes are in their body, which is still in bed, and visual perceptions are processed by the brain - also still in bed.

@Starbright885, I think your friend's dad was bullshitting her. Dads do that 😀

I have a friend, not a close friend but we do meet up a few times a yea, her dad was in the CIA! Yes, she is American and married an English man. They did experiments that proved the during sleep, theta state, we can have out of body experiences. We are consciousness and our body and brain die but our awarensss doesn’t, or something like that. They even described in great detail what they saw and heard but they didn’t have their body as it was asleep!! . They do experiments of all sorts but not allowed to go into detail as she was never allowed to really talk about it but she did mention this as it’s common knowledge, apparently And as her father had passed away, but they are still not allowed to go into too much detail. But we do know there is alot more than what we are taught at schools and the basic science. There is a lot to know. I’m still not sure about time slips, though l. I think you can look
it up as welll. If anyone will know about time slips, it’s the CIA

@Firefly1987 "I wish it was true along with fairies, angels etc. but I think this planet is far too boring for anything like that to be possible. The mundane is all we have"

The mundane? Music, literature, art, rainbows, daffodils, giant sequoia, waterfalls, love, poetry, Mount Fuji, wine, cake, flying, cats,sunsets, whales, elephants, buttered toast, penicillin....., mundane?????

Cracks in "the fabric of" reality are more usually called delusions or hallucinations. We all experience micro-sleeps, especially when we're tired. Other states of altered consciousness are also normal - just before sleeping and after waking, for example. People often hallucinate or misperceive before and after a migraine or an epileptic seizure, in the hours leading up to a heart attack, during a fever, and when they're in shock. Crowd psychology can influence perception. We shouldn't underestimate the prevalence of drug use these days, either.

I have minor hallucinations when I'm tired - I have ME-CFS so am often unfeasibly exhausted. I've learned to check myself when something seems particularly odd, but it's reasonable for most people to assume that what their sense are telling them is accurate. Unfortunately, though, this can lead them to insist that the odd things really happened.

I'm really interested in all this - human perception and neuro-psychology. Stories like Bold Street may have originated with someone having a blip, but are just as likely to have been fabricated from the beginning.

I think some people are talking out of their crack

I do know which poster has won the lottery though

I can turn wine into piss with startling efficiency.

Not sure but I find the idea it could be completely fascinating

If it makes you feel any better, I think the idea that there’s a god is absolute bollocks too.

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It is not correct because it is comparing 100 instances of unreliable evidence to one instance of reliable evidence ("the argument hinges on the assumption that quantity of belief equals quality of evidence").

I am not arguing that 100 pieces of poor quality evidence (witnesses claiming to have experienced an interaction with God) is better than one peice of goof quality evidence, I am arguing that 100 prices of poor quality evidence (witnesses claiming to have experienced an interaction with God) constitute more evidence that 1 equally poor quality peice of evidence (1 witness statement from a person claiming to have experienced time travel).

Thats true, until of the horrors in the various galaxies then its omg

I wish it was true along with fairies, angels etc. but I think this planet is far too boring for anything like that to be possible. The mundane is all we have 😆

It may be Ai but its still correct and it could write it better than i could and yes i did add the part about time slips at the start of the Ai thread to give it the basics then i added in your view on the cases etc

Next time you ask the AI to write a response for you, let it know that the analogy is between two fantastical claims with no physical evidence - one being experience of God and one being experience of time travel.

Also, not all claims of encounters with a diety come from people who were already believers, so "groupthink" is not a wholly adequate explaination for claims of interactions with a diety.

I thought the argument with time travel was that in some areas of space time moves slower, so you could return to earth and find time had moved on quicker? Not sure where I heard that so could be nonsense.

but people dont see god in the traditional sense, they only think about god then project that.

Plus:

In trying to relate the analogy of multiple witness statements (Case A) to proving the existence of God, the argument hinges on the assumption that quantity of belief equals quality of evidence. However, as we see in both legal and religious contexts, subjective testimony is not inherently reliable, especially when it’s influenced by factors such as social pressure, cultural conditioning, and individual perception. While the testimony of many believers may suggest widespread religious or spiritual experiences, it does not conclusively prove the existence of God, just as a large number of witnesses in a criminal case does not guarantee that the testimony is accurate or truthful.

Thus, though the analogy may initially appear persuasive, it ultimately falls short under scrutiny due to the subjective nature of experience, the risk of groupthink, and the philosophical weakness of relying on popularity as proof of existence.

If two people are accused of similar criminal acts and the only evidence is witness evidence. In Case A, there are a hundred witness statements supporting the prosecution, in Case B there is one witness statement. In which case is there the most evidence?

There are numerous anecdotal reports of "time slips", but none of these experiences have been scientifically verified. These accounts usually involve individuals or groups suddenly perceiving themselves in a different time period, often with vivid sensory experiences that make it seem real. While intriguing, such stories remain in the realm of personal testimony rather than empirical evidence. Here are a few notable examples, often cited in discussions of time slips:

1. The Moberly-Jourdain Incident (1901)

• They were visiting the palace gardens when they reported seeing people dressed in 18th-century clothing, including Marie Antoinette.
• They described the atmosphere changing suddenly, feeling strange and oppressive, with unfamiliar surroundings appearing.
• Later, they researched the history of Versailles and became convinced they had experienced a brief journey into the past.

1. The Bold Street Time Slip (Liverpool)

• The modern surroundings transformed into what seemed to be the 1950s.
• He saw cars, people, and shops from the mid-20th century, all in vivid detail.
• After a few moments, everything returned to normal, but the experience left him unsettled.

1. The Vanishing Hotel (1979)

• The hotel was furnished in a style that seemed very outdated, and the staff wore clothes that seemed to be from an earlier period.
• When they tried to find the hotel again on their return journey, it had seemingly disappeared, and no such place could be located in the area.

1. The RAF Bomber in Scotland (1935)

• He initially flew over the airfield and saw it was in disrepair.
• During his return flight, he claimed the airfield appeared to be fully operational, with planes painted yellow (a color scheme not introduced until years later).
• When he returned again at a later date, he found that the airfield had been renovated in the way he had seen during his strange flight.

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No, sun was up - think Spring summer mornings , not like this time of year.

Like this {Not where friend saw horse and man, but on one of my early walks}

There is a man walking ahead of me on pic who was very real.

all of it is subjective to the individual, but group think is more unlikely vs the individual experience

Did he turn it upside down and giggle at any point?