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To ask if you believe in time slips?

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midnightmeows · 12/10/2024 20:00

I'm on the fence about woo things, however I do like reading stories.

There are lots of stories about time slip experiences, with the most well known being Bold Street, Liverpool. The stories I find interesting are when more than one person (from the 'present' time) sees the 'past' at the same time. In that case it can't be a hallucination - they're either both colluding liars or they really did see 'something'.

Has anyone had any such experiences? I suppose if such a thing exists, we could 'slip' an hour or a day into the past and not even realise.

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User14March · 13/10/2024 14:53

@Cityandmakeup physicists have said, I believe, it may be possible theoretically, to go forward in time but not backwards.

Biggirlnow · 13/10/2024 14:53

User14March · 12/10/2024 21:57

@Biggirlnow what was story called?

I can't remember! It was was in a book of short stories I read 30 years ago but it's stayed with me! I wish I knew!

SidhuVicious · 13/10/2024 13:31

Cityandmakeup · 13/10/2024 13:16

This. A lot of people here stating it’s rubbish but then a hundred years ago imagine explaining everything we have now. If we are able to manipulate time in future then why would this not be possible? Doesn’t take much of a understanding of physics to understand it’s not impossible.

I think it's much more possible that humans will be able to fully change sex than we'll, be able to manipulate time. Outside of our miniscule planet we can't really influence the universe at all.

Cityandmakeup · 13/10/2024 13:16

Moujojojo · 12/10/2024 20:10

Yes.

I don't think we understand anywhere near as much about time and the universe as we like to think we do.

This. A lot of people here stating it’s rubbish but then a hundred years ago imagine explaining everything we have now. If we are able to manipulate time in future then why would this not be possible? Doesn’t take much of a understanding of physics to understand it’s not impossible.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 13/10/2024 13:06

No. They make for interesting stories though.

PurpleChrayn · 13/10/2024 13:05

I literally just finished an ebook about the Bold Street time slip!!

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CW1PT7KR?dplnkId=0ecdf749-6a2f-433a-99b8-80305304be04&nodl=1

I feel like it has something to do with the electricity from railway lines converging below.

SabreIsMyFave · 13/10/2024 12:51

Garlicbest · 13/10/2024 08:45

Something I've never seen explained about out-of-body experiences: your "soul" or whatever detaches from your physical body, so you can look down and observe yourself sleeping. Some have reported flying around hospitals, describing what they saw in other rooms. A few say they travelled far outside the place where they were sleeping and have described the things they saw.

So how are they seeing these things? Their eyes are in their body, which is still in bed, and visual perceptions are processed by the brain - also still in bed.

@Starbright885, I think your friend's dad was bullshitting her. Dads do that 😀

@Garlicbest Ooooh yeah, Astral Projection. That's a whole other thread! 😄

CurlewKate · 13/10/2024 12:49

@NoSourDough Have you googled Tanya Short?

SabreIsMyFave · 13/10/2024 12:41

User14March · 13/10/2024 10:53

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Goddard

This is a compelling & pretty convincing timeslip story. In 1935 the sober & sensible Goddard flew over a fully operational airbase after going through a storm. He described the planes, specific models, approx numbers, activity, uniform colours of ground staff & the base in great granular detail. Problem was it was derelict!

By WW2 it was fully functional in exactly way he described with a few differences re: steel v glass structures on ground and some think he’d seen a slightly different future reality. Multiverse?

Thanks for that @User14March That's fascinating! Shock

SabreIsMyFave · 13/10/2024 12:41

User14March · 13/10/2024 12:00

Re: Titanic disaster, not a ‘time slip’, but some very odd ‘final destination’ type fates befell some surviving passengers.

Ooooh, I didn't know that! Shock

Clotheshanger · 13/10/2024 12:31

Clotheshanger · 13/10/2024 12:23

Oh, he’s genuinely interesting, and he’s one of those people who combines an apparent total hard-headedness (Cambridge, Navy AND RAF careers, very high-ranking etc) with total flights of fancy. Like Arthur Conan Doyle being utterly convinced by ‘psychics’ who cheerfully later sold their stories of fraud to the papers and believing in the Cotyingley Fairies.

The guy Goddard started his ESP charity, the Wrekin Trust, with is really interesting — another v Establishment figure, a 4th Baronet, Cambridge-educated, birthplace now owned by National Trust, taught at Gordonstoun) but also a leading figure in the New Age movement, one of the founders of the Findhorn Foundation, believer in crystals, angels, ley lines etc.

Cottingley Fairies, sorry!

Clotheshanger · 13/10/2024 12:23

User14March · 13/10/2024 12:03

@Clotheshanger you are much better informed than me here. I’d taken his detailed account at face value. Thanks for this interesting context.

Oh, he’s genuinely interesting, and he’s one of those people who combines an apparent total hard-headedness (Cambridge, Navy AND RAF careers, very high-ranking etc) with total flights of fancy. Like Arthur Conan Doyle being utterly convinced by ‘psychics’ who cheerfully later sold their stories of fraud to the papers and believing in the Cotyingley Fairies.

The guy Goddard started his ESP charity, the Wrekin Trust, with is really interesting — another v Establishment figure, a 4th Baronet, Cambridge-educated, birthplace now owned by National Trust, taught at Gordonstoun) but also a leading figure in the New Age movement, one of the founders of the Findhorn Foundation, believer in crystals, angels, ley lines etc.

User14March · 13/10/2024 12:03

@Clotheshanger you are much better informed than me here. I’d taken his detailed account at face value. Thanks for this interesting context.

User14March · 13/10/2024 12:00

Re: Titanic disaster, not a ‘time slip’, but some very odd ‘final destination’ type fates befell some surviving passengers.

Clotheshanger · 13/10/2024 11:53

User14March · 13/10/2024 10:53

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Goddard

This is a compelling & pretty convincing timeslip story. In 1935 the sober & sensible Goddard flew over a fully operational airbase after going through a storm. He described the planes, specific models, approx numbers, activity, uniform colours of ground staff & the base in great granular detail. Problem was it was derelict!

By WW2 it was fully functional in exactly way he described with a few differences re: steel v glass structures on ground and some think he’d seen a slightly different future reality. Multiverse?

What makes you think this is ‘credible’, though? The fact that he was a thoroughly Establishment figure, and had an astonishing and very long military career encompassing both world wars?

I don’t think there’s any evidence he was ‘sober and sensible’. After he retired, he had an entire second career as a promoter of vaguely spiritualist beliefs, including parapsychology, ‘spiritual healing’, and UFOs. His book (published in 1975, so half a life time after the ‘timeslip’) is all about that stuff, and has lots of other instances he reads as supernatural, like a time someone else dreamed about a plane crash just before he took off in that type of plane and crashed, and a squadron photograph from WWI he claims includes the face of a plane mechanic called Freddie Jackson who’d been killed walking into a propeller two days before. (Though there’s no evidence anyone of that name ever having been attached to that squadron, or anyone dying that way at around those dates.)

I don’t think it’s demeaning of his genuine achievements to point out that the one thing all his instances of timeslips/precognition/ghosts have in common is that they happened in some cases half a century earlier, often in stressful situations, he’d talked them over endlessly since, and they’d had not been written down or evidenced at the time.

And that they were being written about by a man in approaching 80 who was a campaigning believer in ESP who founded a charity to spread the word and wrote the foreword to an autobiography called The Psychical Life of Muriel, Lady Dowding (another really interesting individual who was a pioneer animal rights activist, but also a theosophist and spiritualist who thought she could get rid of rats and mice from people’s homes by talking to them).

People doing interesting and worthwhile things doesn’t make them any more credible in other areas of their lives.

Garlicbest · 13/10/2024 11:46

walkingnightmare · 13/10/2024 10:31

When we dream we have a very different concept of time, where hours, days and weeks can pass in a dream, but in reality, everything that unfolded in the dream took seconds or minutes at most, so we are capable of perceiving time in different ways, depending on our state of consciousness. Not connected with that idea, but the idea of time not being linear, if a point in time is more like dipping a finger in the pool of all time, then perhaps time slips and 'ghosts' are ripples of time that occasionally catch up with us.

we are capable of perceiving time in different ways, depending on our state of consciousness.

Yes, we very much are. It baffles me that people don't seem able to differentiate between personal perception and objective reality, though. While you're having your dream covering days of adventure, everything in the tangible world carries on as usual. If someone put the kettle on just as your dream started, they'd be making their tea when it ended.

When you're in a critical emergency situation, your mind may work so fast that everything seems to happen in slow motion. The situation itself, though, unfolds in the milliseconds it takes for the car to hit the pedestrian or the guy to fall off the scaffolding - you haven't actually slowed time.

NoSourDough · 13/10/2024 11:34

I was recently listening to this podcast, she doesn’t go into any science but her accounts are interesting! There is also a mention of Bond Street;

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2pQokmgMWjB0xYVQQiaQoF?si=ICzh5hOIQ8O0Rdz-NEJlTg

User14March · 13/10/2024 11:02

To add Goddard said he saw a monoplane he couldn’t identify, a number of yellow planes, a fully operational airfield with attending crew (1935). Mechanics in blue overalls. At the time RAF mechanics wore tan overalls.

In following years the RAF at this airfield (Drem) began painting their training planes yellow & changed mechanics uniforms to blue. The whole airfield was reactivated in way Goddard described.

User14March · 13/10/2024 10:53

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Goddard

This is a compelling & pretty convincing timeslip story. In 1935 the sober & sensible Goddard flew over a fully operational airbase after going through a storm. He described the planes, specific models, approx numbers, activity, uniform colours of ground staff & the base in great granular detail. Problem was it was derelict!

By WW2 it was fully functional in exactly way he described with a few differences re: steel v glass structures on ground and some think he’d seen a slightly different future reality. Multiverse?

Victor Goddard - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Goddard

walkingnightmare · 13/10/2024 10:41

User14March · 13/10/2024 10:39

@walkingnightmare you’ve made me think of Narnia, years experienced in a flash.

I hadn't thought of that, but yes - just like Narnia 😊

User14March · 13/10/2024 10:39

@walkingnightmare you’ve made me think of Narnia, years experienced in a flash.

walkingnightmare · 13/10/2024 10:31

When we dream we have a very different concept of time, where hours, days and weeks can pass in a dream, but in reality, everything that unfolded in the dream took seconds or minutes at most, so we are capable of perceiving time in different ways, depending on our state of consciousness. Not connected with that idea, but the idea of time not being linear, if a point in time is more like dipping a finger in the pool of all time, then perhaps time slips and 'ghosts' are ripples of time that occasionally catch up with us.

CurlewKate · 13/10/2024 10:24

Important to remember that the CIA also researched whether it was possible to kill goats by staring at them....

Sethera · 13/10/2024 09:16

ChishiyaBat · 13/10/2024 01:22

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CurlewKate · 13/10/2024 09:09

"Humans are so arrogant, always thinking we have reached a stage of knowing almost everything. We know so little"

But we do know quite a lot. Yes, it would be wrong and arrogant to think we know everything- but equally wrong to ignore what we do know. If more evidence emerges that shows something we thought we knew is wrong, then of course things shift. But there has to be actual evidence!