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Am I doing the right thing in leaving my husband?

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JazzieJazzie · 12/10/2024 17:49

I’ve posted here before under different usernames about my situation.

Am I doing the right thing in leaving my husband?

Day to day my husband and I get along fine.
He works hard and provides well for our household.
He is generous with money and makes a huge fuss on my birthdays and Christmas.
He compliments me and tells me how much he fancies me, is very affectionate (he says he wishes I felt the same way)
Hes funny and we make each other laugh.
He’s affectionate with the children
He does stuff around the house
He says most women would kill for a husband like him.
I get to go out and see friends etc.

In the past he’s been abusive towards me, in the early days when I was pregnant and when our children were very young.
There was -
Regular name calling
Threats to pick up large objects and smash me with them
Threats to urinate on my personal items
Intimidation
Threats to kill himself.
Telling me to go kill myself (in anger)
Punching walls and pushing over large objects
Mocking
Telling me I am indifferent to our children
Telling me I ignored our son for the first two years of his life.
Insulting my family and friends
Insulting my intelligence

I did not know much about abuse in the early days and I also was very good at putting on a show that we were the perfect family. I thought cos he wasn’t physical with me that it wasn’t proper abuse.

My husband, now that the children are much older, has “mellowed” somewhat and the worse incidents happened many years ago.

As things are normal day to day and we are all getting along, I feel like my leaving him now will come as a bolt out of the blue. I plan to tell him once I have a new place set up to go to.

Has anyone experienced anything similar?

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Soangrynupset · 13/10/2024 16:01

JazzieJazzie · 13/10/2024 14:53

Im so sorry you went through that, your ex sounds similar to my husband apart from the physical side of things. Sorry you are still having difficulties- you did the right thing reporting him to the police. I definitely wish I had recorded my husbands outbursts, our friends and family would find it hard to believe how he can be behind closed doors. We too are a nice, decent family, middle class and generally seen as decent, good people.

Do you mind if I ask how you left him in the end? Did you tell him face to face then leave that very day? Were you the one to move out and did you take the children with you? My plan is to tell him either face to face then leave straight away to go to my new house or leave then text him that we are over and then be in touch about childcare arrangements. The last time I told him it was over he begged and cried then eventually left to stay at his Mums. The first time he was very nasty as I had to tell him to leave after one of the worst incidents where I was genuinely scared that he would hurt either me, the children or himself. I wish I had phoned the police back then as at least there would be a record of that incident. He blames his behaviour on a “mental breakdown”

OP, please don't tell him before you leave.
Tell once you have left. Then immediately call the police/101/or go in person andnlet them know. Your address will be put on an alert system.

The fact that he is not physical now does not mean he cannot or will not become.

When you tell him, he may sense that something is different this time and that could make him desperate.

All I am saying, is just be very careful. Don't take anything about your H for granted.

JazzieJazzie · 13/10/2024 14:53

Endoftheroad12345 · 13/10/2024 12:46

I could and did leave a man like your husband after 21 years together, in November 2022.

The worst physical abuse (black eye) in November 2015 but lower level abuse (pinching causing bruising, pushing etc) plus smashing up the house plus ongoing verbal abuse was continuous.

Like you I was very good at putting on an act - no one believed how bad he was. We are both very middle class lawyers. I have only just reported him to the police as DS9 came home after a weekend with him with a bruise on his inner upper arm from exH pinching him 😵‍💫 I wish I’d gone to the police years ago. Certainly I wish I had gone during the period of the split as he was completely psycho.

Great that you are getting a plan together. Make sure you have money of your own stashed. All ours was joint and he cleared it out (tens of thousands) within hours of me telling him we would separate. I got it back but only after threatening the police.

Have someone with you for your and the kids safety when you tell him you are leaving.

Tell a trusted friend as much as possible about what has been going on.

Record him if possible when he is in a rage. I have a few of these recordings and they have been invaluable - both in terms of galvanising me when things got tough, and letting him know I have them and will use them if I have to.

Go to the police - I found them so helpful and really practical and validating of my experience. I had already well left by then. If i was still living with him I think it could have been very scary and stressful.

Don’t assume it will be amicable or he will be a 50/50 parent. My ex has my kids every other weekend. Tbh I’d like to knock that on the head given his behaviour, but unfortunately the Courts don’t seem to view DV as a dealbreaker for access so I try to walk a line between minimal access to avoid him seeking more time via Court. Now I have logged a police complaint he is on notice. I am not sure that will
stop
him.

Good luck with everything. I have never regretted my decision for a moment. Life can be amazing ❤️

Im so sorry you went through that, your ex sounds similar to my husband apart from the physical side of things. Sorry you are still having difficulties- you did the right thing reporting him to the police. I definitely wish I had recorded my husbands outbursts, our friends and family would find it hard to believe how he can be behind closed doors. We too are a nice, decent family, middle class and generally seen as decent, good people.

Do you mind if I ask how you left him in the end? Did you tell him face to face then leave that very day? Were you the one to move out and did you take the children with you? My plan is to tell him either face to face then leave straight away to go to my new house or leave then text him that we are over and then be in touch about childcare arrangements. The last time I told him it was over he begged and cried then eventually left to stay at his Mums. The first time he was very nasty as I had to tell him to leave after one of the worst incidents where I was genuinely scared that he would hurt either me, the children or himself. I wish I had phoned the police back then as at least there would be a record of that incident. He blames his behaviour on a “mental breakdown”

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MoveToParis · 13/10/2024 14:11

JazzieJazzie · 12/10/2024 18:52

Just had an incident with him a couple of minutes ago - our son is autistic (severe end) and was having a bad meltdown, he lashed out at my husband and he said “get off me you little shit” I told him to please don’t call him that and he said here we go again and I’m going to start punishing him again.

In his world, you asking him not to call his son a little shit, is a punishment. You are taking away his treat.

I expect he will go into full crybully mode so please anticipate that.
Also to be expected is him behaving as if you need his approval or permission- neither of these is necessary and you can divorce regardless of any feelings he has.

Most people don’t fight dirty, they fight about the issue bearing in mind that the relationship is important to them and should not be taken for granted. He has thrown away what he says he values - what a fool, and no one wants to be married to a fool.

aLittleWhiteHorse · 13/10/2024 12:53

You no longer wish to be married or live with him (& for good reason).

You have prepared a home to keep yourself and your children safe, thus you are fulfilling your responsibilities to yourself and the children.

YANBU because you have the right to choose how you live your life. Good luck & be happy!

Endoftheroad12345 · 13/10/2024 12:46

I could and did leave a man like your husband after 21 years together, in November 2022.

The worst physical abuse (black eye) in November 2015 but lower level abuse (pinching causing bruising, pushing etc) plus smashing up the house plus ongoing verbal abuse was continuous.

Like you I was very good at putting on an act - no one believed how bad he was. We are both very middle class lawyers. I have only just reported him to the police as DS9 came home after a weekend with him with a bruise on his inner upper arm from exH pinching him 😵‍💫 I wish I’d gone to the police years ago. Certainly I wish I had gone during the period of the split as he was completely psycho.

Great that you are getting a plan together. Make sure you have money of your own stashed. All ours was joint and he cleared it out (tens of thousands) within hours of me telling him we would separate. I got it back but only after threatening the police.

Have someone with you for your and the kids safety when you tell him you are leaving.

Tell a trusted friend as much as possible about what has been going on.

Record him if possible when he is in a rage. I have a few of these recordings and they have been invaluable - both in terms of galvanising me when things got tough, and letting him know I have them and will use them if I have to.

Go to the police - I found them so helpful and really practical and validating of my experience. I had already well left by then. If i was still living with him I think it could have been very scary and stressful.

Don’t assume it will be amicable or he will be a 50/50 parent. My ex has my kids every other weekend. Tbh I’d like to knock that on the head given his behaviour, but unfortunately the Courts don’t seem to view DV as a dealbreaker for access so I try to walk a line between minimal access to avoid him seeking more time via Court. Now I have logged a police complaint he is on notice. I am not sure that will
stop
him.

Good luck with everything. I have never regretted my decision for a moment. Life can be amazing ❤️

Rubyandscarlett · 13/10/2024 12:31

JazzieJazzie · 12/10/2024 18:15

It’s difficult as he can be no nice, so kind and so reasonable. That me upping and leaving out of the blue will make me look like the bad guy who’s abandoned her husband and broke his heart.

Isn't this the absolute definition of gaslighting?

thepariscrimefiles · 13/10/2024 12:26

JazzieJazzie · 13/10/2024 11:28

Yeah he says that a lot. How I’m so lucky to have him and how I don’t know I am born etc. He compares himself to some husbands who forget their wives birthdays and are generally a bit “useless” etc. He gets high praise from the women he works with about how amazing he is 🙄

What an arrogant, self aggrandising prick he is.

JHound · 13/10/2024 12:13

JazzieJazzie · 13/10/2024 11:28

Yeah he says that a lot. How I’m so lucky to have him and how I don’t know I am born etc. He compares himself to some husbands who forget their wives birthdays and are generally a bit “useless” etc. He gets high praise from the women he works with about how amazing he is 🙄

Sounds like he is still abusive and that has not changed. People typically say this when they want you to lower their standards with your expectations from them.

jeaux90 · 13/10/2024 11:46

I don't know any women who regret leaving, only women who regret not leaving sooner.

I'm a lone parent, my life is very peaceful.

Soangrynupset · 13/10/2024 11:41

Do get evidence of his behaviour before uou leave, if you can.
If you are able to get evidence, keep it safe but do not go to the police and SS before you leave.
They will go to speak with him etc and that will make your leaving an even more dangerous time for you.

Please, be careful the advice you take from on here. People that have not been through such abuse it, giving dangerous advice though well meaning.

Good thing you are in touch with women's aid. Be guided by them.

Worriedmummy2400 · 13/10/2024 11:35

the behaviour needs to be recorded. Get your son to tell his teachers about what daddy is like.

Worriedmummy2400 · 13/10/2024 11:34

Otherwise you may find he’s going to use the children to further abuse you.

Worriedmummy2400 · 13/10/2024 11:34

Before you leave get evidence of his behaviour. Start talking to women’s aid and get the behaviour recorded officially with police and SS before you leave for family court purposes. Tell you dr what he has behaving like and get it documented.

JazzieJazzie · 13/10/2024 11:28

JHound · 13/10/2024 11:18

I don’t know why but this line:

He says most women would kill for a husband like him.

Raised my hackles.

Yeah he says that a lot. How I’m so lucky to have him and how I don’t know I am born etc. He compares himself to some husbands who forget their wives birthdays and are generally a bit “useless” etc. He gets high praise from the women he works with about how amazing he is 🙄

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JazzieJazzie · 13/10/2024 11:25

mrlistersgelfbride · 13/10/2024 11:20

OP, you husband's behaviour sounds like my partner's. Right down to the calling you an abuser when it's him!
I can imagine writing a very similar post in a few years. Leave him and enjoy the rest of your life. I wish you well. x

Oh gosh, I’m sorry to hear you are in a similar situation. I hope you too find the strength to leave him and live a peaceful happy life X

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mrlistersgelfbride · 13/10/2024 11:20

OP, you husband's behaviour sounds like my partner's. Right down to the calling you an abuser when it's him!
I can imagine writing a very similar post in a few years. Leave him and enjoy the rest of your life. I wish you well. x

JHound · 13/10/2024 11:18

I don’t know why but this line:

He says most women would kill for a husband like him.

Raised my hackles.

JazzieJazzie · 13/10/2024 11:14

Halfemptyhalfling · 13/10/2024 10:04

Important to be clear on how you would prefer the DC would spend their time (although by age 10ish they have a say) so you are not blindsided by him announcing 50:50. If he wants 50:50 does that work for you? Would he need to only have supervised contact?

I am happy for him to have the DCs and do 50/50 if he suggests it although with his shift work (nights/very late finishes and 12 hour days) it’s unlikely that he would manage 50/50. I would never take the kids away from him and I hope he will be reasonable when it comes to discussing arrangements but I doubt it!

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Thelnebriati · 13/10/2024 10:24

YANBU but I strongly recommend you secretly contact Women's Aid and have a safe exit plain in place. Its likely that he is being nice because he think he has got you trained.
Do not warn him in advance of your plans.
https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/

The Freedom Programme
https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/domestic-abuse-how-to-get-help

I need help - information and support on domestic abuse

Not sure if you're experiencing abuse? Worried about someone else? If you or a friend need help, we are here. Learn more about our information and support.

https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support

augustusglupe · 13/10/2024 10:15

Just adding to the good advice everyone’s already given you OP.
Don’t tell him too much or too soon.
Get yourself all sorted first. He’ll use any bit of information you give him to use against you.
He won’t really have mellowed, he’s just Jekyll & Hyde.

Bonbon21 · 13/10/2024 10:14

When you do get away... tell people the truth.. do not cover for him. You will find out who are real friends and who pay lip service and who are not worth your time and energy. Don't worry, they will identify themselves to you!
Keep your plans and your dreams to yourself. Don't confide in people until they have proven they deserve your trust, there will be some batting for the other side.

DadJoke · 13/10/2024 10:12

If you simply didn’t love him and wanted to leave him and he hadn’t been abusive, that alone would be enough. He is an abusive, manipulative arsehole. I bet he manages not to explode around other people.

Halfemptyhalfling · 13/10/2024 10:04

Important to be clear on how you would prefer the DC would spend their time (although by age 10ish they have a say) so you are not blindsided by him announcing 50:50. If he wants 50:50 does that work for you? Would he need to only have supervised contact?

Soangrynupset · 13/10/2024 10:03

Boobygravy · 13/10/2024 09:45

You never do couples counselling with an abuser.
Op can get individual counselling.

This.

Never.

Imbusytodaysorry · 13/10/2024 09:59

Soangrynupset · 13/10/2024 09:37

OP, DO NOT do couples counselling with your abuser.
This is extremely poor advice.

You are on the right path.
Leave him, heal, build a peaceful and happy life for yourself.

Agreed . !
An abuser will use this to blame you even more and “get another on side “