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To call out tight friend or fade out

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Sherwooden · 12/10/2024 14:34

Hello,

For background I have a reasonably good friend of 10 years who is extremely tight, I have periodically called out things over the years and for a while things get better then go back to how they were before.

Tight as in always expecting others to pay for drinks, meals out, taxis etc. Always pleads poverty but has disposable income. Numerous examples over the years, some funny some not.

Whilst I enjoy her company her attitude to money puts me off spending time with her now and I am wondering if I just let the friendship fade. There hasn't been one particular incident recently I think its just cumulative!.

She is a nice person otherwise, but I find the constant grifter behaviour draining, I know if I see her and we do anything I will end up paying!, and no she doesn't enjoy free activities like walks etc!

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User100000000000 · 13/10/2024 18:10

Itiswhysofew · 13/10/2024 18:06

When you arrange to meet up, tell her in advance that you won't be paying for her. I'd be as blunt as that, really. She's not embarrassed for you to constantly pay, (who does she think she is?☹), so why would you spare her feelings?

There are so many CFs in this world.

I agree. Though it's worth pointing out that she won’t turn up! People like this withdraw from their source if it runs dry. I had a 20+ year friendship with one of these types. She believed that it was "the price people have to pay if they want to spend time with me"

User100000000000 · 13/10/2024 18:07

@Sherwooden What did you text back? Please don't roll over and let it go for an easy life. CFs like this do it because people enable it!

I'd be responding with "And £40 is more than a lot for me! If you knew you couldn't afford to pay for it, why did you order it?"

Itiswhysofew · 13/10/2024 18:06

When you arrange to meet up, tell her in advance that you won't be paying for her. I'd be as blunt as that, really. She's not embarrassed for you to constantly pay, (who does she think she is?☹), so why would you spare her feelings?

There are so many CFs in this world.

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 17:57

the7Vabo · 13/10/2024 17:52

No of course you shouldn’t in fact you shouldn’t pay at all,
Im am very curious as to her line of thinking. The way she phrases it “£20 is a lot for me”, it’s slightly victim like.
As you said originally she doesn’t want to do things like go for a walk, so she wants something she thinks she can’t afford subsidised.

Yes, she does play victim a bit when we are out, I.notice it more when she does it to other people we meet, but her life choices are her own and her family financially support her so she really isn't a victim!

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the7Vabo · 13/10/2024 17:52

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 17:38

Yes she works part time and I work full time so she would see I have more income.

She works part time so that she can build a vinted business and has done for the last 6 years so yes I will earn more, still don't think that means I should always pay!

No of course you shouldn’t in fact you shouldn’t pay at all,
Im am very curious as to her line of thinking. The way she phrases it “£20 is a lot for me”, it’s slightly victim like.
As you said originally she doesn’t want to do things like go for a walk, so she wants something she thinks she can’t afford subsidised.

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 17:38

the7Vabo · 13/10/2024 15:56

I’m really curious OP does she think you have more money than her? Do you?
Why does she feel entitled to say “£20 is a lot for me?” She presumably chose her order?

At this stage I think the biggest favour you could do her is be really honest. Tell her what you have told us - you don’t even drink but she drinks and is still happy for you to pay.

Yes she works part time and I work full time so she would see I have more income.

She works part time so that she can build a vinted business and has done for the last 6 years so yes I will earn more, still don't think that means I should always pay!

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AlexaSetATimer · 13/10/2024 16:27

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 12:02

Thanks for your replies, I have been emboldened to remind her she never paid me for the last takeaway we shared , 40 in total so 20 each, at the time we got a takeaway I ordered it and so it was on my account.

She has just replied and said "O 20 pounds is alot to me"

I CBA any longer , it's hard work, so fade out it is

"It's a lot to me too bitch, pay up"

Pomegranatecarnage · 13/10/2024 16:02

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 12:02

Thanks for your replies, I have been emboldened to remind her she never paid me for the last takeaway we shared , 40 in total so 20 each, at the time we got a takeaway I ordered it and so it was on my account.

She has just replied and said "O 20 pounds is alot to me"

I CBA any longer , it's hard work, so fade out it is

Unbelievable ! I’d reply-« and £40 is doubly a lot! »

the7Vabo · 13/10/2024 15:56

I’m really curious OP does she think you have more money than her? Do you?
Why does she feel entitled to say “£20 is a lot for me?” She presumably chose her order?

At this stage I think the biggest favour you could do her is be really honest. Tell her what you have told us - you don’t even drink but she drinks and is still happy for you to pay.

WAGinSpain · 13/10/2024 15:42

I have a relative like this. The whole family talk about their tightness. I don't give anymore because everything feels so one sided. Have distanced and am happy about that.

RockyRogue1001 · 13/10/2024 15:37

Well, if she doesn't pay you @Sherwooden, you'll know exactly how much your friendship is worth to her, and it's £20!

InSpainTheRain · 13/10/2024 15:00

I had a friend exactly the same as you describe, it's tiring and really disrespectful. I have faded her out, she was a good company but honestly I can't be doing with the long litany of excuses from "Can we take your car so I can have a drink" (I don't drink - but it's so she doesn't have to pay for petrol even for a short drive) to "I don't have any change for the car park" "I can't get a mobile signal to pay" "I have forgotten the card I wanted to use" "I'll use my deliveroo next time" "it's more than I expected" "I must have forgotten to put my purse in my bad" etc

FootbalIslife · 13/10/2024 14:56

I think it’s the right call, if she’s selfish about this it will come out in other ways as well.

If you ever do decide to go out with her again, go somewhere where it’s super easy to pay separately like Nando’s or Wetherspoons, no the best venues but foods ok and you can both pay separately up front!

LlynTegid · 13/10/2024 14:51

Good decision OP, glad others seem to think the same about this behaviour.

Hyacinthandrichard · 13/10/2024 14:44

Sounds very odd. Does she think you're minted and somehow owe her? Or that if you suggest food that it's on you? I'd be replying that "why did you order it ?"

Jaboodyv2 · 13/10/2024 14:39

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Therealjudgejudy · 13/10/2024 14:01

She is not a friend. She is a freeloader...

Pixiewombat · 13/10/2024 13:50

£20 may be a lot but £40 is a lot more!

CoffeeBeansGalore · 13/10/2024 13:48

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 13:21

I'm going to withdraw from friendship as she is hard work! I don't want to have to think about how to get her to pay for herself every time we meet!

I have replied and reiterated that she owes me 20quid for her share

Well done. She'll move on to someone else.

Kitkatcatflap · 13/10/2024 13:39

It's so hard being friends with someone like this - I feel they never relax and enjoy your company as they are busy totting up how much they can get for free and how they can dodge the bill. After a while, there is an undercurrent of you watching them and mental box ticking when they start with the sob stories and excuses. Not really a friendship is it?

I'm more happy to help out a friend and foot the bill if they have 'reduced circumstances' but tight people who expect it and never return any form of generosity when massing a pile are nauseating.

A true friend would have apologised and paid the £20 for the take away. Why would £20 be a lot to her but £40 not be a lot to you. A true friend would not have sparked an atmosphere for you asking her to pay for her own cocktails as you hadn't been drinking.

Slow fade - you have called her out on it. She is mocking you

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 13:21

I'm going to withdraw from friendship as she is hard work! I don't want to have to think about how to get her to pay for herself every time we meet!

I have replied and reiterated that she owes me 20quid for her share

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Wishimaywishimight · 13/10/2024 13:07

I just couldn't say nothing! I would go back with "So you think I should pay the whole £40???"

At a restaurant I would pay cash for my half plus tip then pass the bill over to her. I honestly can't see why anyone would meekly keep picking up the entire bill.

flyingmice · 13/10/2024 13:07

Sherwooden · 13/10/2024 12:02

Thanks for your replies, I have been emboldened to remind her she never paid me for the last takeaway we shared , 40 in total so 20 each, at the time we got a takeaway I ordered it and so it was on my account.

She has just replied and said "O 20 pounds is alot to me"

I CBA any longer , it's hard work, so fade out it is

So why did she order it? Why are you such a doormat?

WellOwlBeDamned · 13/10/2024 13:06

It is a sort of self-infantilisation isn’t it?

Always expecting other people to pick up the bill like a mummy would for a child.

More than that it tells you v clearly that they expect to be indulged and care not a jot for how that might impact you.

I find fighting over who pays, mrs doyle style, annoying at times but much preferable to the kind of tight-wad man/woman-child bill avoiders.

At least you can laugh together about the former, the latter is just sad all round.

(or utterly pathetic in a grown man - you know who you are Mr Own Postcode)

flyingmice · 13/10/2024 13:04

If you think of it like this. Next time you are at work and are about to leave for the day, if she would tell you that you should stay and work for another hour or two so you can pay for her cocktails and food on Friday night or she will sulk - would you be happy to do that?