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Do you do this? If so, WHY???????!!!!!!

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ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 14:32

It’s my birthday. 47 years on this planet. Had the same name for all of them.

Just two cards through the post, one from each of my mum’s sisters. Both of whom came to my wedding 20 years ago, where the words Mr + Mrs Hisname never appeared, and the cheques they each kindly gave us had to be corrected because neither of us changed our names. (They noticed we hadn’t cashed them and we had to tell them we couldn’t pay them in as we had no joint account (still don’t) and so no account existed that would recognise me as Sarah Hisname.

So why, 20 years on, with a few gentle reminders on the way, are the envelopes addressed to Mrs S Hisname and Sarah Myname-Hisname?

It’s very sweet of them to send cards at all, as a text would be absolutely fine, but I’m bamboozled by why anyone would go to the effort of buying and sending a card to someone and using a name they have NEVER used?

So if you do this, WHY?!

OP posts:
Dontlletmedownbruce · 12/10/2024 22:17

@MissScarletInTheBallroom yes it is a bit ridiculous but we all know it is used in the context of a woman's name before marriage as opposed to post marriage, not referring to girl hood or virginity or whatever it's original meaning was. A bastard isn't a child born out of marriage anymore, words change. Yes maybe its one of those that could be phased out but it is used all the time in official documents. Maybe OP could spend some time campaigning against it's official use instead of berating posters on MN.

StarlitBeauty · 12/10/2024 22:16

Is there a possibility that they have just forgotten? Not everyone attends to the details of your life as much as you think they do.... It may just be habit because lots of people don't do this. And you're getting in a stew about it and thinking mean thoughts about these people who actually took the time to write you a card. I would just tell them not to bother next time if you are thinking the worst of them so easily, you obviously don't like any of them very much to begin with.

FindingMeno · 12/10/2024 22:15

If only I just got names wrong on the rare occasion I remember to send a card.
My speciality seems to be sending cards to people who have died.

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 22:15

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 21:54

Perhaps you should, since you've been on this thread for ages defending why you think it's OK to call people what you believe they should call themselves rather than their actual name.

If you think that's what I've been saying, you haven't been reading my posts.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 22:10

Dontlletmedownbruce · 12/10/2024 22:06

@ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat Now you are being pedantic, trying to police other people's words. You know what @NZDreaming meant. You must have a very difficult life expending so much energy being offended by language that is used every day.

Edited

Maiden name is a really grim expression though when you think about it for two seconds.

ClairDeLaLune · 12/10/2024 22:08

Some ageist stuff on this thread. I am the ancient age of 58 and kept my name when I got married. It was my dad’s surname not my mum’s though, so I’ve got a bit of an issue with that too…

YANBU OP, the people sending you those cards are rude. It’s rude not to call someone by their preferred name.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 12/10/2024 22:06

@ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat Now you are being pedantic, trying to police other people's words. You know what @NZDreaming meant. You must have a very difficult life expending so much energy being offended by language that is used every day.

Needmorelego · 12/10/2024 22:04

@Rhaidimiddim I wrote my comment before it was said how old the Aunties are.
I do think it's a bit odd for women of that age (50s) to automatically do it (I had assumed they were older aunties in their 70s/80s) especially as I expect the OP has pointed it out over the last 20 years.
To me though (personally) it would be just a little bit annoying but not worth being petty enough not to open the cards.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 22:02

OrdsallChord · 12/10/2024 21:56

It would be a waste of your time even trying. She's constructed some batshit idea of politeness where asking what someone is called is a problem. Some people are beyond help.

Yep.

According to her, if a woman has made the correct choice (taking her husband's name) it would be an insult not to remember that, but if a woman has made the incorrect choice (keeping her own name), nobody can possibly be expected to remember that, and even if they do remember it, they can't possibly be expected to respect it because calling a married woman by anything other than her husband's name goes against their own ingrained good manners.

Make it make sense.

🙃

(Good thing her DIL made the correct choice, because you can bet your life that if she had kept her own name she'd be one of the posters on here complaining that her MIL refused to use her correct surname.)

HeadNorth · 12/10/2024 21:58

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 21:50

She knows the card is intended for her. She is choosing to treat the card as a deliberate and calculated piece of rudeness. I wouldn't make that choice.

If the card is intended for the OP, it should use her name. It’s really not hard.

OrdsallChord · 12/10/2024 21:56

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 21:54

Perhaps you should, since you've been on this thread for ages defending why you think it's OK to call people what you believe they should call themselves rather than their actual name.

It would be a waste of your time even trying. She's constructed some batshit idea of politeness where asking what someone is called is a problem. Some people are beyond help.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 21:54

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 21:52

I'm not taking lessons on politeness from anyone as deliberately rude as you.

Perhaps you should, since you've been on this thread for ages defending why you think it's OK to call people what you believe they should call themselves rather than their actual name.

viques · 12/10/2024 21:53

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 21:28

I’m not opening them.

There might be a fiver inside ! Or a tenner.

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 21:52

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 21:39

Yes, it's rude to call anybody by a name other than the one they actually go by.

You're quite close to getting it now.

I'm not taking lessons on politeness from anyone as deliberately rude as you.

SouthLondonMum22 · 12/10/2024 21:52

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 21:50

She knows the card is intended for her. She is choosing to treat the card as a deliberate and calculated piece of rudeness. I wouldn't make that choice.

At this point, it is deliberate.

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 21:50

HeadNorth · 12/10/2024 21:37

Why would you open a card that isn’t addressed to you?

She knows the card is intended for her. She is choosing to treat the card as a deliberate and calculated piece of rudeness. I wouldn't make that choice.

NZDreaming · 12/10/2024 21:49

@SouthLondonMum22 thank you for clarifying, I wasn’t aware this was an issue for some people.
@ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat i was offering you a solution to address the situation with your aunts that would send a clear message, instead of receiving that with the intent it was offered you chose to give a response I didn’t understand.

I was under the impression that once you are married your birth surname was referred to as your maiden name regardless of whether you changed your name or not. You knew what I meant and could have clarified, you seem to want to be offended.

Rhaidimiddim · 12/10/2024 21:46

Needmorelego · 12/10/2024 15:23

The cheque thing is annoying but it's just old fashioned etiquette.
It will fade out as older generations go - the same as cheques are pretty rare these days.

It is not old-fashioned etiquette. I must be the same age as the aunties here (60's) and I wouldn't do this. They are being rude and daft, and I'd be telling them not to bother sending cards in future IF THEY CAN'T EVEN BE BOTHETED TO GET MY NAME RIGHT.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 21:39

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 21:28

It’s 2024. My name is my name. Calling me by anything other than that is a fucking insult. DIL has decided to take DS's name. It might be an insult to her not to call her by that name. It isn't by default an insult to call someone by their husband's name. It would be if the person knew that it was wrong and was doing it deliberately.

Yes, it's rude to call anybody by a name other than the one they actually go by.

You're quite close to getting it now.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 21:39

NZDreaming · 12/10/2024 21:34

Did I miss something? I thought you said you hadn’t changed your name when getting married. Did you change it to something other than your birth surname?

It’s my birth surname. Maiden name is an outdated (sexist) term relating to your name before marriage. It can only refer to a name that was changed. As I have only ever had one name, I don’t have a maiden name. It’s just my name.

OP posts:
MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 21:38

DressOrSkirt · 12/10/2024 20:05

And unless the bride changed her birthday after getting married then there is only 1 option for that, making her birthday (1 option) easier to remember than her surname (4 options).

To find someone's address I search my WhatsApp messages.

Way to miss the point. If you can remember which out of the 366 possible dates is someone's birthday (and usually the year as well) you can certainly remember their name.

Especially if what you are being asked to do is remember that they haven't changed their name and so it is the same as it always was, rather than remember their new name.

SouthLondonMum22 · 12/10/2024 21:37

NZDreaming · 12/10/2024 21:34

Did I miss something? I thought you said you hadn’t changed your name when getting married. Did you change it to something other than your birth surname?

I imagine OP isn’t a fan of the term maiden name. It’s like you said, her birth name.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 21:37

zileri · 12/10/2024 18:19

Nobody cares about any of this.

Read the thread. There are lots of people that care. Indeed, more than half do based on the poll.

OP posts:
HeadNorth · 12/10/2024 21:37

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 21:30

Unless you have good reason to think they are deliberately trying to be offensive, that seems very petty.

Why would you open a card that isn’t addressed to you?

NZDreaming · 12/10/2024 21:34

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 21:32

It’s not a maiden name.

Did I miss something? I thought you said you hadn’t changed your name when getting married. Did you change it to something other than your birth surname?

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